EPTDon't Get Fined - WCS 2014 Handbook - Page 22
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LamaMitHut
Germany187 Posts
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lolmlg
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On December 21 2013 00:11 squanzo wrote: Wow holy shit Blizzard what else can you fuck up more? Can't drink? Smoke? Say naughty language? chat to players? say anything during interviews? The culture of their fans made them the company they are today, and they want to strip that from public eye. It's fucking sickening and it's happening everywhere in this pretentious, pussy world we live in today The "culture of their fans" is generally called "toxicity". Professional competition isn't a playground. Players come to win and anything that has the potential to unbalance the competition doesn't belong. | ||
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lolmlg
619 Posts
On December 23 2013 02:27 Gene(S)is wrote: Starting to look like Kespa, the very same organization Blizzard once sued. Can't they see what they are turning into? You do know that the only reason Blizzard pursued legal action against KeSPA was to force the BW scene to end prematurely so people would buy SC2, right? They didn't even sue them over anything remotely related to this topic. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On December 23 2013 23:39 lolmlg wrote: You do know that the only reason Blizzard pursued legal action against KeSPA was to force the BW scene to end prematurely so people would buy SC2, right? They didn't even sue them over anything remotely related to this topic. No, they did it to protect their copyrights and to sell SC2 in Korea. Since they had not challenged the right to broadcast BW for so many year, the needed to re-establish their rights to the IP. Blizzard didn't end the BW scene with the law suite and it was never their goal to do that. | ||
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Nekovivie
United Kingdom2599 Posts
The shoutcaster must treat all players with respect and cannot comment negatively on the player’s overall skill or character wut No more Tastosis calling people straight up bad? :D | ||
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RKC
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c0sm0naut
United States1229 Posts
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Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
On December 23 2013 23:56 Plansix wrote: No, they did it to protect their copyrights and to sell SC2 in Korea. Since they had not challenged the right to broadcast BW for so many year, the needed to re-establish their rights to the IP. Blizzard didn't end the BW scene with the law suite and it was never their goal to do that. Well that kind of backfired given what a flop the game was in Korea. The fact that it's still below BW in PC bangs never ceases to amuse me. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On December 24 2013 07:10 Squat wrote: Well that kind of backfired given what a flop the game was in Korea. The fact that it's still below BW in PC bangs never ceases to amuse me. It can't really backfire. Copyright and IP law works on a use it or lose it system. You either defend your IP or you lose it, which is why Blizzard had to pull the trigger. | ||
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Burns
United States2300 Posts
I really hope that other esports like dota anad csgo can eventually do the same things. Esp since dota is very immature compared to starcraft. Teams show up late all the time, and the delays between games are awful. | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
On December 23 2013 23:31 lolmlg wrote: The "culture of their fans" is generally called "toxicity". Professional competition isn't a playground. Players come to win and anything that has the potential to unbalance the competition doesn't belong. I completely understand his point. In a tournament with 300k USD on the line, why go professional? It's so unnecessary. Sponsors do not care about what the players do anyways. no, wait | ||
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Goibon
New Zealand8185 Posts
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Buddy168
United States157 Posts
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Damnight
Germany222 Posts
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Miragee
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On December 23 2013 23:56 Plansix wrote: No, they did it to protect their copyrights and to sell SC2 in Korea. Since they had not challenged the right to broadcast BW for so many year, the needed to re-establish their rights to the IP. Blizzard didn't end the BW scene with the law suite and it was never their goal to do that. I want to live in the same world as you, where Blizzard still had good intends with that one. | ||
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dUTtrOACh
Canada2339 Posts
I suppose on the rare occasion where a player doesn't give a fuck, they end up swearing in an interview or saying something scandalous in chat, but it ends there. Their opponent will most likely not respond out of fear, the caster will be obligated to condemn the behaviour and for just a moment the fans will go completely ape-shit. This doesn't take all the drama away, but it definitely dulls things. I have a feeling this has something to do with Blizzard's wanting to enter the MOBA genre in a big way. They're preemptively stamping out toxicity and painting their games as mature and professional. Something that the average, casual gamer doesn't give a shit about. | ||
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Fuchsteufelswild
Australia2028 Posts
On December 20 2013 23:56 Sly Faux wrote: No offensive language, no in game chat... basically all the lovable friendly trash talk that really gets me hyped, is out. No more personalities everybody! Robots everybody, just play the game and get out. People like this are so daft. "If you're not a rude son of @#$%^, you clearly have no personality whatsoever! I mean, it's not like people can be entertaining without being rude, EVER!" *Facepalm* While I don't mind a little chat in the game, especially in tournaments that feel professional yet also a little more laid back in a way (ESL), I would prefer that we get the best games possible, so preventing chat that may be distracting is probably best for this. I agree with others that innocent conversation was nice and yes, chat can be entertaining, but ultimately, ensuring the games are of high quality is also likely to help it to be entertaining. There are good and bad aspects to having such rules. I'd hope that if someone crosses that line just by typing something innocent other than "glhf" or "gg" wouldn't get disqualified for it though. -___- ESL is still part of WCS though, right? So even they must abide by it? It does feel more like Blizzard enforcing KeSPA rules. :| 30 pages? That's less than one tenth of what Dungeons & Dragon players have for theirs. On December 25 2013 22:38 Miragee wrote: Good thing. I hated all the BM ceremonies and trash talk in games. KeSPA rules were too strict imho. But as long as greetings and all forms of pause/gg are alowed that seems fine. I want to live in the same world as you, where Blizzard still had good intends with that one. I would agree with Plansix on that except that you must note, he didn't specifically say they had only "Good intentions". I think they acted in self-interest (for profit, I mean) and certainly didn't do anything specifically to harm, but that isn't the same as trying to do what is most fair either, so I wouldn't say they had "Good" or "Bad" intentions. | ||
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TheSC2report
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Slardar
Canada7596 Posts
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Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
Also, overall I think the changes are good and appropriate. | ||
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