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Noobity
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States871 Posts
December 26 2013 17:17 GMT
#441
I love the no talking rule. No reason for it to happen in WCS sanctioned events. We still have the homestory cups and shit where it'll be done and it'll be fun. Putting it down as a rule set in stone will just keep more controversy and drama out of the center of attention and make things run a bit more smoothly.

While I didn't check anything but the OP regarding these rules, I can't imagine they would enforce it for an online cup or event that did not give WCS points. Unless my assumption is wrong, then there are still plenty of events you can watch the trash talk/swearing/drinking during.
My name is Mike, and statistically, yours is not.
Akimbo
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada105 Posts
December 26 2013 21:46 GMT
#442
LoL why was the picture of Naniwa lol.
1-1+1-1+1-1+1-.......
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
December 26 2013 21:53 GMT
#443
On December 23 2013 12:16 Carefoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2013 04:03 snow2.0 wrote:
Why can drunk players be disqualified?

If they don't lose anyway, doesn't that just show they're better?


Prohibition type laws aren't meant to make any sense. Alcohol consumers, and cannabis consumers like myself should basically boycott the WCS if we can't enjoy ourselves legally with of age friends, family or fans. Ultimately if I have epliepsy and, Blizzard catches me smoking a joint they will turn me into the federalis. I will not be watching, or participating in WCS out of respect for the lack of insight from eSports @ Blizzard (this is looking at you Torch - and this is your 2nd strike with me - get one more - and I will be sprinkling weed seeds into your lawn into eternity).

rofl, this is why pot heads drive me nuts. You don't even understand the rule
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Sly Faux
Profile Joined April 2013
57 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-27 00:53:26
December 27 2013 00:10 GMT
#444
On December 23 2013 05:00 Fizzy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2013 23:56 Sly Faux wrote:
I understand the reasons behind this, we need to act professional fi we are to be taken seriously, but this just rustle my jimmies. No offensive language, no in game chat... basically all the lovable friendly trash talk that really gets me hyped, is out. No more personalities everybody! Remember how much we loved Idra's "Fuck you" to Huk after that Halluc VR match? NO MORE OF THAT NOW!. Robots everybody, just play the game and get out.

4thelolz: No CHEATING!? Looks like the whole Protoss race is out... those advanced imbalanced theocratic dicks.

User was warned for this post


Oh would you grow up.


I will NOT grow up

On December 26 2013 16:53 Fuchsteufelswild wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2013 23:56 Sly Faux wrote:
No offensive language, no in game chat... basically all the lovable friendly trash talk that really gets me hyped, is out. No more personalities everybody! Robots everybody, just play the game and get out.

People like this are so daft.


Who are you calling daft, punk?

I do not think offensive language was ever really an issue. I mean, sure there was some off color language in chat, but that just shows that these pros are human after all. I feel like the average/casual gamer can relate more with players when they see BM.. I mean, honestly, who hasn't said something horribly offensive online. It's natural to be angry when you lose because your opponent just gets lucky. You are mad at yourself but just project it to your opponent. In this technologic world, you don't suffer consequences because you never have to see the person face to face. Unfortunately, pros do... but no chat? What about the digital love that Huk shows to his opponents? It is possible that these rules might scare people into being robots rocking the SC2 scene even beyond in game. I have a theory that most people who are upset by these rules around the world are more upset because that is the way THEY behave, with BM and smoking da funk and like to see themselves reflected in the personalities of progamers because if someone like them can go pro, it's possible for you to go pro if you work harder,better,faster, and stronger. I don't really know how to articulate my thought of this into words, but hopefully someone can derezz it and clarify what I mean. It has been said before, but I want to draw attention to it one more time, these rules only affect WCS, so our other tournaments are safe. My favorite "trash talk" incident actually took place OUTSIDE of a game. This video is a perfect example of doin it right
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
December 27 2013 13:48 GMT
#445
Good to have the morals written down, to those that have cravings for pursuing immorality.
LiangHao
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-27 14:03:21
December 27 2013 13:53 GMT
#446
On December 27 2013 09:10 Sly Faux wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2013 05:00 Fizzy wrote:
On December 20 2013 23:56 Sly Faux wrote:
I understand the reasons behind this, we need to act professional fi we are to be taken seriously, but this just rustle my jimmies. No offensive language, no in game chat... basically all the lovable friendly trash talk that really gets me hyped, is out. No more personalities everybody! Remember how much we loved Idra's "Fuck you" to Huk after that Halluc VR match? NO MORE OF THAT NOW!. Robots everybody, just play the game and get out.

4thelolz: No CHEATING!? Looks like the whole Protoss race is out... those advanced imbalanced theocratic dicks.

User was warned for this post


Oh would you grow up.


I will NOT grow up

Show nested quote +
On December 26 2013 16:53 Fuchsteufelswild wrote:
On December 20 2013 23:56 Sly Faux wrote:
No offensive language, no in game chat... basically all the lovable friendly trash talk that really gets me hyped, is out. No more personalities everybody! Robots everybody, just play the game and get out.

People like this are so daft.


Who are you calling daft, punk?

I do not think offensive language was ever really an issue. I mean, sure there was some off color language in chat, but that just shows that these pros are human after all. I feel like the average/casual gamer can relate more with players when they see BM.. I mean, honestly, who hasn't said something horribly offensive online. It's natural to be angry when you lose because your opponent just gets lucky. You are mad at yourself but just project it to your opponent. In this technologic world, you don't suffer consequences because you never have to see the person face to face. Unfortunately, pros do... but no chat? What about the digital love that Huk shows to his opponents? It is possible that these rules might scare people into being robots rocking the SC2 scene even beyond in game. I have a theory that most people who are upset by these rules around the world are more upset because that is the way THEY behave, with BM and smoking da funk and like to see themselves reflected in the personalities of progamers because if someone like them can go pro, it's possible for you to go pro if you work harder,better,faster, and stronger. I don't really know how to articulate my thought of this into words, but hopefully someone can derezz it and clarify what I mean. It has been said before, but I want to draw attention to it one more time, these rules only affect WCS, so our other tournaments are safe. My favorite "trash talk" incident actually took place OUTSIDE of a game. This video is a perfect example of doin it right
One should always pursue to control ones emotions. There is nothing worse than a bad loser or winner. You are not a robot because you keep your frustrations or tantrums behind closed doors, rather than public eye. You are not more human because you can't, only not mature. You are not more human because you are drawn to drama. Trashtalk will alway be bad, and is communicating in an unconstructive way. Poking at someone in jest and between two parties that identifies it for what it is, is okay, of course. Not all receive it as intended though.

Being a good sport, showing respect for your adversary, by using sportmanlike conduct, is always admirable, and truth be told very hard to do, when disappointed. It is human to fail, but also human to succeed.
LiangHao
TecaNina
Profile Joined December 2013
41 Posts
December 27 2013 18:40 GMT
#447
Well I guesse it would have been better to let the player more room for personalitly and emotions... I don´t know but to see somebody punished just for raging (sth like: "fuck that" or "thats a joke") is just lame and takes a lot away from the game in my opinion
Naniwa, Parting, SoS, HomestoryCup fuck yeahhh <3
Aridhol
Profile Joined June 2013
Germany59 Posts
December 30 2013 12:33 GMT
#448
So much good manner, i hope some guys break it....
noodloid
Profile Joined June 2011
7 Posts
December 31 2013 08:52 GMT
#449
On December 27 2013 06:53 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2013 12:16 Carefoot wrote:
On December 23 2013 04:03 snow2.0 wrote:
Why can drunk players be disqualified?

If they don't lose anyway, doesn't that just show they're better?


Prohibition type laws aren't meant to make any sense. Alcohol consumers, and cannabis consumers like myself should basically boycott the WCS if we can't enjoy ourselves legally with of age friends, family or fans. Ultimately if I have epliepsy and, Blizzard catches me smoking a joint they will turn me into the federalis. I will not be watching, or participating in WCS out of respect for the lack of insight from eSports @ Blizzard (this is looking at you Torch - and this is your 2nd strike with me - get one more - and I will be sprinkling weed seeds into your lawn into eternity).

rofl, this is why pot heads drive me nuts. You don't even understand the rule


Thats what it is. Smoking pot is - besides other things - about giving a shit about the settled rules.

But what in disscussions makes no sense is saying this or that, him or her doesnt even understand ... doesnt even get! Oh what an ....
Thats just for excluding people and for that no one has the right here (not taking into conclusion the moderating power of the forum).
Think about taking some of the behaviour suggestions from blizzard and apply it to yourself not just when youre playing in the wcs. Would do some good.

Maybe after all, blizzard is going to make a better community? ;-P
JHM_
Profile Joined January 2014
United States3 Posts
January 04 2014 00:16 GMT
#450
haha that picture of Naniwa is classic.
BW IDs: JuNe-TrEe, JuNe-X17, IntotheJuNe, [X]Mystical.
Gihi
Profile Joined September 2011
384 Posts
January 07 2014 08:33 GMT
#451
I really don't like the no chat part, I also think players should be given the time to check a replay to see what went wrong in between games, I get annoyed by it as well, but I understand. Maybe they can put a time limit on it or something.
freakhill
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Japan463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-07 08:51:55
January 07 2014 08:46 GMT
#452
On December 27 2013 22:53 Dracolich70 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2013 09:10 Sly Faux wrote:
On December 23 2013 05:00 Fizzy wrote:
On December 20 2013 23:56 Sly Faux wrote:
I understand the reasons behind this, we need to act professional fi we are to be taken seriously, but this just rustle my jimmies. No offensive language, no in game chat... basically all the lovable friendly trash talk that really gets me hyped, is out. No more personalities everybody! Remember how much we loved Idra's "Fuck you" to Huk after that Halluc VR match? NO MORE OF THAT NOW!. Robots everybody, just play the game and get out.

4thelolz: No CHEATING!? Looks like the whole Protoss race is out... those advanced imbalanced theocratic dicks.

User was warned for this post


Oh would you grow up.


I will NOT grow up

On December 26 2013 16:53 Fuchsteufelswild wrote:
On December 20 2013 23:56 Sly Faux wrote:
No offensive language, no in game chat... basically all the lovable friendly trash talk that really gets me hyped, is out. No more personalities everybody! Robots everybody, just play the game and get out.

People like this are so daft.


Who are you calling daft, punk?

I do not think offensive language was ever really an issue. I mean, sure there was some off color language in chat, but that just shows that these pros are human after all. I feel like the average/casual gamer can relate more with players when they see BM.. I mean, honestly, who hasn't said something horribly offensive online. It's natural to be angry when you lose because your opponent just gets lucky. You are mad at yourself but just project it to your opponent. In this technologic world, you don't suffer consequences because you never have to see the person face to face. Unfortunately, pros do... but no chat? What about the digital love that Huk shows to his opponents? It is possible that these rules might scare people into being robots rocking the SC2 scene even beyond in game. I have a theory that most people who are upset by these rules around the world are more upset because that is the way THEY behave, with BM and smoking da funk and like to see themselves reflected in the personalities of progamers because if someone like them can go pro, it's possible for you to go pro if you work harder,better,faster, and stronger. I don't really know how to articulate my thought of this into words, but hopefully someone can derezz it and clarify what I mean. It has been said before, but I want to draw attention to it one more time, these rules only affect WCS, so our other tournaments are safe. My favorite "trash talk" incident actually took place OUTSIDE of a game. This video is a perfect example of doin it right
One should always pursue to control ones emotions. There is nothing worse than a bad loser or winner. You are not a robot because you keep your frustrations or tantrums behind closed doors, rather than public eye. You are not more human because you can't, only not mature. You are not more human because you are drawn to drama. Trashtalk will alway be bad, and is communicating in an unconstructive way. Poking at someone in jest and between two parties that identifies it for what it is, is okay, of course. Not all receive it as intended though.

Being a good sport, showing respect for your adversary, by using sportmanlike conduct, is always admirable, and truth be told very hard to do, when disappointed. It is human to fail, but also human to succeed.


Social constructs, what you think is absolute truth just stems from your culture. You basically just said "I hold Danish values to heart!".
moo ForGG, Dragon, MVP, Gumiho, DRG, PartinG, Life]0[!
Nasreth
Profile Joined October 2011
United States48 Posts
January 09 2014 15:47 GMT
#453
why were all of these rules necessary? were they regularly being violated to a point where they were causing problems?
Why do I play Zerg? Because Kerrigan.
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-11 01:50:54
January 11 2014 01:47 GMT
#454
On January 07 2014 17:46 freakhill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2013 22:53 Dracolich70 wrote:
On December 27 2013 09:10 Sly Faux wrote:
On December 23 2013 05:00 Fizzy wrote:
On December 20 2013 23:56 Sly Faux wrote:
I understand the reasons behind this, we need to act professional fi we are to be taken seriously, but this just rustle my jimmies. No offensive language, no in game chat... basically all the lovable friendly trash talk that really gets me hyped, is out. No more personalities everybody! Remember how much we loved Idra's "Fuck you" to Huk after that Halluc VR match? NO MORE OF THAT NOW!. Robots everybody, just play the game and get out.

4thelolz: No CHEATING!? Looks like the whole Protoss race is out... those advanced imbalanced theocratic dicks.

User was warned for this post


Oh would you grow up.


I will NOT grow up

On December 26 2013 16:53 Fuchsteufelswild wrote:
On December 20 2013 23:56 Sly Faux wrote:
No offensive language, no in game chat... basically all the lovable friendly trash talk that really gets me hyped, is out. No more personalities everybody! Robots everybody, just play the game and get out.

People like this are so daft.


Who are you calling daft, punk?

I do not think offensive language was ever really an issue. I mean, sure there was some off color language in chat, but that just shows that these pros are human after all. I feel like the average/casual gamer can relate more with players when they see BM.. I mean, honestly, who hasn't said something horribly offensive online. It's natural to be angry when you lose because your opponent just gets lucky. You are mad at yourself but just project it to your opponent. In this technologic world, you don't suffer consequences because you never have to see the person face to face. Unfortunately, pros do... but no chat? What about the digital love that Huk shows to his opponents? It is possible that these rules might scare people into being robots rocking the SC2 scene even beyond in game. I have a theory that most people who are upset by these rules around the world are more upset because that is the way THEY behave, with BM and smoking da funk and like to see themselves reflected in the personalities of progamers because if someone like them can go pro, it's possible for you to go pro if you work harder,better,faster, and stronger. I don't really know how to articulate my thought of this into words, but hopefully someone can derezz it and clarify what I mean. It has been said before, but I want to draw attention to it one more time, these rules only affect WCS, so our other tournaments are safe. My favorite "trash talk" incident actually took place OUTSIDE of a game. This video is a perfect example of doin it right
One should always pursue to control ones emotions. There is nothing worse than a bad loser or winner. You are not a robot because you keep your frustrations or tantrums behind closed doors, rather than public eye. You are not more human because you can't, only not mature. You are not more human because you are drawn to drama. Trashtalk will alway be bad, and is communicating in an unconstructive way. Poking at someone in jest and between two parties that identifies it for what it is, is okay, of course. Not all receive it as intended though.

Being a good sport, showing respect for your adversary, by using sportmanlike conduct, is always admirable, and truth be told very hard to do, when disappointed. It is human to fail, but also human to succeed.


Social constructs, what you think is absolute truth just stems from your culture. You basically just said "I hold Danish values to heart!".
Funny, I would have thought having respect for your adversary and being well mannered was Eastern culture as well. And above all, losing face by showing emotions of defeat in public was losing face - more so in the East.

Sportsmanslike conduct is admirable, and is highly appreciated across all cultures, not just in Denmark. Maybe you just never learned it.
LiangHao
Frost bitE
Profile Joined July 2013
Malaysia27 Posts
January 12 2014 13:56 GMT
#455
a very positive start for a very friendly environment in the Starcraft 2 scene! Splendid!
Drone like a madmen ! ^_^
kalstrams
Profile Joined July 2011
33 Posts
January 31 2014 23:14 GMT
#456
Race part confused me. What if random player plays in the tournament ?
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