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magnaflow
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1521 Posts
December 21 2013 00:48 GMT
#301
I fucking love naniwa, my favorite player, but even I admit all of these rules seem to be in place just for him haha
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
December 21 2013 00:56 GMT
#302
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Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
December 21 2013 01:03 GMT
#303
next step is to have guys play live events in suits and ties :D
The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
December 21 2013 01:15 GMT
#304
Ok, i'm glad for the clarification on a match being a series. I was worried becuase your opponent should be able to prepare for one race at a time, that's kind of important. I wouldn't really care if it was like in a MLG style open bracket. Hell i think in that instance race picking during a series could be kind of hilarious. That's obiter, don't quote me on this.

As for the rest, i don't really care. I don't see anything which prevents friendly trash talk outside game, and that's way more important to have than some rude words on a monitor while hiding in a booth.
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
FromShouri
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States862 Posts
December 21 2013 01:16 GMT
#305
How will tournament organizers/blizzard prove anyone was on an illegal substance? There gonna be random d testing in starcraft now?
Limited Edition, lets do some simple addition, $50 for a T-Shirt is just some ignorant bitch shit.
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
December 21 2013 01:18 GMT
#306
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egernya
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada352 Posts
December 21 2013 01:50 GMT
#307
On December 20 2013 23:58 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2013 23:04 Waxangel wrote:
No chatting
  • J. During the game, players may not use chat except for a greeting, closing, and request for pause.


Literally Kespa


Kespa doesn't allow you to greet.
ToT)OjKa(
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)2437 Posts
December 21 2013 01:50 GMT
#308
sucking even more fun out of starcraft
OjKa OjKa OjKa!
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16117 Posts
December 21 2013 02:00 GMT
#309
I love all of these rules, but what I love more are the reactions to them in this thread.

I'll never understand why so many people love to watch people trash talk each other. It adds nothing as far as I'm concerned.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16117 Posts
December 21 2013 02:06 GMT
#310
On December 21 2013 08:40 Zarahtra wrote:
"D. Communication & Storage Devices – Players must consult with the organizer before bringing electronic storage devices to any event and are not allowed to use any mobile or external communication equipment during a match. All personal equipment must be in an enclosed bag or be given to an administrator while a match is played. "
Do people need to ask permission to bring their smartphone to events? :/

Edit: And I still think it's stupid that you can switch race between maps. Makes map vetos kind of stupid. Like the blind pick part though(not that I think it will ever be used).


As Nazgul said, anyone good enough to actually make a multiple race strategy for a series work should be rewarded because that is fucking hard to do.

There's a good reason you don't see this sort of thing already and it's the same reason why you don't see any Random players at the top level. Mastering one race at the professional level is hard enough as it is, mastering 2 or 3 is even more insane.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
KnowNothing
Profile Joined December 2010
69 Posts
December 21 2013 02:13 GMT
#311
On December 21 2013 00:35 Coolhwip wrote:
Boring.

User was warned for this post


Why are posts like this getting warnings? Maybe it's in the rules, somewhere, but I don't care. Beyond the basic rules that protect people, both TL moderators and Blizzard should step back and let people have fun.
FromShouri
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States862 Posts
December 21 2013 02:15 GMT
#312
On December 21 2013 11:00 Vindicare605 wrote:
I love all of these rules, but what I love more are the reactions to them in this thread.

I'll never understand why so many people love to watch people trash talk each other. It adds nothing as far as I'm concerned.


Tell that to boxing, it adds hype even if the players themselves are really friends or don't really hate each other. It's about putting on a show and also a way to add extra mind-games.
Limited Edition, lets do some simple addition, $50 for a T-Shirt is just some ignorant bitch shit.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
December 21 2013 02:15 GMT
#313
The shoutcaster must treat all players with respect and cannot comment negatively on the player’s overall skill or character


This is pretty funny.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
December 21 2013 02:30 GMT
#314
On December 21 2013 09:56 monkybone wrote:
Show nested quote +
The shoutcaster must treat all players with respect and cannot comment negatively on the player’s overall skill or character


just lol

wtf is this rule?

Also, exploiting bugs is reason for disqualification? That's absurd.. blizzard is responsible for the non-existence of bugs, no-one else.

Maybe they are tired when casters are just saying a player is shit the whole time in a match without end.
Sjokola
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands800 Posts
December 21 2013 02:50 GMT
#315
I really wonder how strict these rules are. I sounds more to me like they're more of a prevention and an "in case of".

I really dislike the chat rule. I like when conversations, provocations or reactions to the game happen.
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
December 21 2013 02:50 GMT
#316
On December 21 2013 11:13 KnowNothing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2013 00:35 Coolhwip wrote:
Boring.

User was warned for this post


Why are posts like this getting warnings? Maybe it's in the rules, somewhere, but I don't care. Beyond the basic rules that protect people, both TL moderators and Blizzard should step back and let people have fun.

Fun is not professional. Blizzard seems to think that their route will be the best -- there is enough 'fun' by just watching the games and enforcing those types of rules. Since it's their event and all, they can do that. Maybe next year they might change some stuff but who knows. LETS SEE.
scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
December 21 2013 03:13 GMT
#317
No chatting?! Well shit, thats very disappointing. v_v
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 21 2013 03:19 GMT
#318
On December 21 2013 11:15 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
The shoutcaster must treat all players with respect and cannot comment negatively on the player’s overall skill or character


This is pretty funny.

just wait for all the new caster bashing next year

WHERE IS YOUR RESPECT
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Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-21 03:26:09
December 21 2013 03:25 GMT
#319
I just hope they won't enforce some of these rules too strictly, like chat restrictions and not mentioning leave to an administrator. (for example losing a match because of a bathroom break or receiving a fine because of 2 messages as a game ending instead of one.)
These rules have a positive effect on tournament organization as long as they are used preventing excessive cases, i think.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
December 21 2013 03:36 GMT
#320
On December 21 2013 08:12 Grumbels wrote:
Rules similar to this have been around for a long time, so it's not like there is anything new to this. The only thing that specifically worries me is the idea that you're not allowed to criticize the tournament (is this right? I sort of skimmed most of the discussion), but otherwise the lack of in-game chat and forcing players to be on time is all harmless. If players want to show personality they can have their own blog or there can be interviews or comments on twitter and so on. But the only reason we care about these players is ultimately their ability to play the game and it's this ability that should be highlighted. I sometimes think that many people in the community are just here out of habit or they follow the scene for the drama and the players and the ambiance etc. and are only barely interested in the actual game (as is true for most sports I guess). But on some level everyone loses out when the game is no longer central. I think it's a very good idea to say that when the game start you focus on the game, period. (The "sanctity of the game", and so on.)

I don't really like the idea of e-sports too much though. I have two sort of competing ideas and I don't know how to directly reconcile them. On one hand I think that you should respect the game and that many of Blizzard's rules are in the spirit of this thought, but on the other hand I don't like the idea of e-sports as a spectacle show where we want to emulate wrestling or something, with the community not caring about playing the game, just caring about the gladiator fight between Jaedong & Flash. It's this sort of mentality that makes people think it's a good idea to have mindless thrash talking to create equally mindless drama. Since if we're going to appeal to the lowest common denominator it's better to have players that show "personality" by acting like your typical loudmouth football player. (I mean, there are plenty of people that act like Innovation and Scarlett have no personality, just because they're shy/polite) Many of Blizzard's rules are in the spirit of creating a family-friendly spectacle event as marketing for Blizzard, that just seems offensive to me on some level.

I do like competition though, it's more pure. I wish there was some billionaire that would acquire an island and invite the best 100 Starcraft players and just have them compete in a massive tournament. No broadcasting, no show, just competition and it only needs to be relevant to the people playing there. But of course, in today's world you need business models and that sort of thing to even have competition in the first place, and the powers-that-be only care about competition in the sense that it can draw in an audience.


One rare good post in this thread. Thanks you.

I'm gonna comment on one part of it tho. I don't think the pure gameplay of SC2 itself is good enough to entertain people. In a vacuum without any drama, any story, the game is really weak.
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