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On December 21 2013 11:13 KnowNothing wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2013 00:35 Coolhwip wrote:
Boring.
User was warned for this post Why are posts like this getting warnings? Maybe it's in the rules, somewhere, but I don't care. Beyond the basic rules that protect people, both TL moderators and Blizzard should step back and let people have fun.
It's probably because it was a worthless post. If it's so boring why would you waste your time and ours to make sure we know that with as little effort by you as possible? Why not, like, idk, put effort into the post and explain why the new rules are boring or unnecessary or whatever.
PS, they tell you to not question them in-thread. Take it to the website feedback. You're probably going to get a warning too :\
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I guess they don't care that with each and every fine they give out for chatting in game, they're literally going to be nuked with tidal waves of shit. To an extent I can understand them not wanting profanity on their stream (any other case i'd be enraged...), but enforcing sportsmanship by penalizing bm is so backwards. At what point should they also make it a rule that after each and every match players must shake hands? Why can't they just trust in general decency between players when 99.99999% of the time they wouldn't bm, and probably shake hands regardless? Naniwa is probably one of the most anticipated players in any tournament he comes to, loved or hated. They have nothing to gain disallowing it, and everything to lose.
At least they're (most likely) going to release all replays. It's not that much harder to rip a build apart watching a vod anyways, for player, coach, caster, or casual. It hurts the community more than it helps (if at all) the players.
On December 21 2013 08:06 Xiphos wrote:
Simple if you don't like the rules, then don't watch the WCS tournies as a sign of protest. They'll be forced to comply.
If only they didn't occupy the majority of large SC2 events...
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Way to go, now there is even less reason for me to pay attention to SC2...
Edit - By these rules, Idra/MC at MLG Columbus 2011 would be fined...
Any funny or amusing rivalry/ banter is about to get stomped on. GG.
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On December 21 2013 13:44 Mallidon wrote:
Way to go, now there is even less reason for me to pay attention to SC2...
Edit - By these rules, Idra/MC at MLG Columbus 2011 would be fined...
Any funny or amusing rivalry/ banter is about to get stomped on. GG.
Wait, Idra and MC never said anything in chat and the trash talking was mild at best. I don't think a single fine would be handed out. I think people are making a mountain out of a mole hill here, little will change.
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Naniwa in the cover....Legit
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It doesn't mean the rules are going to be ridiculously enforced to the point that there is no entertainment. If you have the rules then discretion can be used. If there are no clear rules then drama happens.
NFL athletes get fined all the time but still do entertaining things.
This is an important and legitimate step, but don't assume it's going to be so strictly enforced that entertaining moments won't happen. Seems to me they left that gray area in with the discretion parts.
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On December 21 2013 08:40 Zarahtra wrote:
"D. Communication & Storage Devices – Players must consult with the organizer before bringing electronic storage devices to any event and are not allowed to use any mobile or external communication equipment during a match. All personal equipment must be in an enclosed bag or be given to an administrator while a match is played. "
Do people need to ask permission to bring their smartphone to events? :/
Edit: And I still think it's stupid that you can switch race between maps. Makes map vetos kind of stupid. Like the blind pick part though(not that I think it will ever be used).
Race switching typically is to give yourself some type of advantage on a map or matchup, if people want to do that then let it be i guess IMO.
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These new rules take away too much of the fun. Some drama around known rivalries between players and moderate BM is part of the excitement. Regulating all that away makes the series a lot more boring
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On December 21 2013 14:11 RevTiberius wrote:
These new rules take away too much of the fun. Some drama around known rivalries between players and moderate BM is part of the excitement. Regulating all that away makes the series a lot more boring
Really? Care to explain all the times that in game drama they would now be fined happened in the 2013 WCS?
These rules will hardly change anything. Why are people acting like mad trash talk and in game bm is common? And so common that somehow it ruins the fun?
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haha, when I saw the headlines about "fines" and saw naniwa as the picture, I was thinking "oh dang, what did he do now"...but really it was just rules  . Most of these rules seem overlooked, so I guess it's good that they're there.
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On December 21 2013 14:14 FLuE wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2013 14:11 RevTiberius wrote:
These new rules take away too much of the fun. Some drama around known rivalries between players and moderate BM is part of the excitement. Regulating all that away makes the series a lot more boring Really? Care to explain all the times that in game drama they would now be fined happened in the 2013 WCS? These rules will hardly change anything. Why are people acting like mad trash talk and in game bm is common? And so common that somehow it ruins the fun?
Maybe you care to explain where I said or insinuated that "mad trash talk and in game bm is common"?
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people keep acting like this is the end of the world. ain't. shit. gon. change.
the sc2 pro community already doesn't have much BM going on at all, especially since Idra retired. the tiny bit that is there is probably going to remain, Naniwa and Nerchio will just get less prizemoney while Grubby will get more. this isn't the war3 community where there was actually funny stuff going on that just can't be tolerated if you want to run a very professional tournament.
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On December 21 2013 14:41 RevTiberius wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2013 14:14 FLuE wrote:On December 21 2013 14:11 RevTiberius wrote:
These new rules take away too much of the fun. Some drama around known rivalries between players and moderate BM is part of the excitement. Regulating all that away makes the series a lot more boring Really? Care to explain all the times that in game drama they would now be fined happened in the 2013 WCS? These rules will hardly change anything. Why are people acting like mad trash talk and in game bm is common? And so common that somehow it ruins the fun? Maybe you care to explain where I said or insinuated that "mad trash talk and in game bm is common"?
Take away to much of the fun. As in its common enough to create a pretty high quantity of fun.
So yeah, one would assume what you wrote insinuates it is common to some degree when in fact it hardly happened at all last year. You are making a big deal out if something that you claim created fun and hardly even happened.
Again provide examples of instances last year that were fun that the new rules will prevent? There are very few.
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On December 21 2013 14:45 FLuE wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2013 14:41 RevTiberius wrote:On December 21 2013 14:14 FLuE wrote:On December 21 2013 14:11 RevTiberius wrote:
These new rules take away too much of the fun. Some drama around known rivalries between players and moderate BM is part of the excitement. Regulating all that away makes the series a lot more boring Really? Care to explain all the times that in game drama they would now be fined happened in the 2013 WCS? These rules will hardly change anything. Why are people acting like mad trash talk and in game bm is common? And so common that somehow it ruins the fun? Maybe you care to explain where I said or insinuated that "mad trash talk and in game bm is common"? Take away to much of the fun. As in its common enough to create a pretty high quantity of fun. So yeah, one would assume what you wrote insinuates it is common to some degree when in fact it hardly happened at all last year. You are making a big deal out if something that you claim created fun and hardly even happened. Again provide examples of instances last year that were fun that the new rules will prevent? There are very few.
You seem to read a lot of garbage into other people's posts just so that you can disagree with them. You completely missed the point of my original statement
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On December 21 2013 14:50 RevTiberius wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2013 14:45 FLuE wrote:On December 21 2013 14:41 RevTiberius wrote:On December 21 2013 14:14 FLuE wrote:On December 21 2013 14:11 RevTiberius wrote:
These new rules take away too much of the fun. Some drama around known rivalries between players and moderate BM is part of the excitement. Regulating all that away makes the series a lot more boring Really? Care to explain all the times that in game drama they would now be fined happened in the 2013 WCS? These rules will hardly change anything. Why are people acting like mad trash talk and in game bm is common? And so common that somehow it ruins the fun? Maybe you care to explain where I said or insinuated that "mad trash talk and in game bm is common"? Take away to much of the fun. As in its common enough to create a pretty high quantity of fun. So yeah, one would assume what you wrote insinuates it is common to some degree when in fact it hardly happened at all last year. You are making a big deal out if something that you claim created fun and hardly even happened. Again provide examples of instances last year that were fun that the new rules will prevent? There are very few. You seem to read a lot of garbage into other people's posts just so that you can disagree with them. You completely missed the point of my original statement
You seem to be trying to make a big deal out of something that isn't.
Care to clarify your point then? Seems pretty straight forward to me. Maybe I just have no problem calling people out for saying unsubstantiated things.
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time to retire for naniwa ;D
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On December 20 2013 23:53 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2013 23:36 MajOr wrote:
I. Players may switch races after each match. < retarded That rule is never going to be used and in case it is used it will be amazing and absolutely reward skill. Being able to play multiple races in a single series nothing to look down upon or to obstruct with a ruleset.
yep, it should be fun at least, remember Julyzerg
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I would be really interested in seeing someone opt to race pick in SC2. There haven't been many, if any, pros that race pick match ups.
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On December 21 2013 13:50 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2013 13:44 Mallidon wrote:
Way to go, now there is even less reason for me to pay attention to SC2...
Edit - By these rules, Idra/MC at MLG Columbus 2011 would be fined...
Any funny or amusing rivalry/ banter is about to get stomped on. GG. Wait, Idra and MC never said anything in chat and the trash talking was mild at best. I don't think a single fine would be handed out. I think people are making a mountain out of a mole hill here, little will change.
B. Behavior – Players are required to behave in a sportsmanlike manner towards other competitors, members of the administration team, media, and fans.
Pretty sure they'd have been fined under that one.
Meh. I know it was mild, but players will end up living in fear of fines etc and we will lose another aspect of things, that is personality coming through.
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On December 21 2013 14:03 NovemberstOrm wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2013 08:40 Zarahtra wrote:
"D. Communication & Storage Devices – Players must consult with the organizer before bringing electronic storage devices to any event and are not allowed to use any mobile or external communication equipment during a match. All personal equipment must be in an enclosed bag or be given to an administrator while a match is played. "
Do people need to ask permission to bring their smartphone to events? :/
Edit: And I still think it's stupid that you can switch race between maps. Makes map vetos kind of stupid. Like the blind pick part though(not that I think it will ever be used). Race switching typically is to give yourself some type of advantage on a map or matchup, if people want to do that then let it be i guess IMO.
Are there even any top level pros who race switch? I know Morrow use to. I feel like the rule is more of a just in case some drama comes up they have a written rule they can reference.
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