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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-20 20:10:47
December 20 2013 20:08 GMT
#261
On December 21 2013 05:00 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2013 04:58 Happygreek wrote:
On December 21 2013 04:52 Survivor61316 wrote:
On December 20 2013 23:53 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
On December 20 2013 23:36 MajOr wrote:
I. Players may switch races after each match. < retarded

That rule is never going to be used and in case it is used it will be amazing and absolutely reward skill. Being able to play multiple races in a single series nothing to look down upon or to obstruct with a ruleset.

I'm pretty sure what they mean by the wording of that rule is that you must play as one race for an entire series, but can then switch races for your next series (match). Generally, a match refers to the overall BoX, whereas a game refers to each map played.


I interpret match as a single game and a set as in a best of three is a set of matches. Basically the way it's used in tennis. Definitely should be clarified if there's this much confusion.


I'm pretty sure "match" is interpreted as whatever amount of maps (sets) that make up a BoX. For example, a player may have a 65% win rate but a 72% match win rate, meaning that he wins 65% of the maps he plays but 72% of the matches (Best of X-series) that said player participates in.




To clear up the subject, a match is a BO3.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 20 2013 20:10 GMT
#262
On December 21 2013 05:07 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Ridiculous rules, as usual when a centralized organization attempts to tell others what is appropriate and what isnt.


In their own tournament, funded by their money?
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AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
December 20 2013 20:12 GMT
#263
On December 21 2013 04:56 Survivor61316 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2013 04:44 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On December 21 2013 04:38 Gorilla23 wrote:
On December 20 2013 23:53 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
On December 20 2013 23:36 MajOr wrote:
I. Players may switch races after each match. < retarded

That rule is never going to be used and in case it is used it will be amazing and absolutely reward skill. Being able to play multiple races in a single series nothing to look down upon or to obstruct with a ruleset.


I've always been lead to understand a Bo3 is a match and each individual map is a set. That's how it always was on GomTV.

Blizzard should really clarify.


A Bo3 is a set of matches/maps. Think of it as a set of adorable tea cups. One cup does not make a set.

I think youre wrong man. Think of it in terms of tennis for example; there are many games played, but only one match. Its the same with starcraft. Thats also why it says you have to tell the tournament organizer which race your going to play before map selection, which is what the early ban/pick phase is called before any games are played.


Sure but I was aiming at the believe that "each individual map is a set" and didn't really think about the "match".
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Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
December 20 2013 20:15 GMT
#264
On December 21 2013 05:07 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Ridiculous rules, as usual when a centralized organization attempts to tell others what is appropriate and what isnt.

I'm pretty sure that if you fund, organize and promote an event, you have a fairly strong case for making the rules for said event.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
December 20 2013 20:16 GMT
#265
On December 21 2013 05:15 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2013 05:07 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Ridiculous rules, as usual when a centralized organization attempts to tell others what is appropriate and what isnt.

I'm pretty sure that if you fund, organize and promote an event, you have a fairly strong case for making the rules for said event.
Where did I say they had no legitimacy in creating their own rules? Oh right, I didnt. I said the rules were ridiculous, as one ought to expect. *Thats* what I said.
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Broodwurst
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1586 Posts
December 20 2013 20:17 GMT
#266
Good. While it was fun reading that IdrA "werent loss" it's not needed at all. Take that shit out of the game and bring it to twitter or something, so i've got stuff to read between games.
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-20 20:21:27
December 20 2013 20:19 GMT
#267
On December 21 2013 05:16 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2013 05:15 Squat wrote:
On December 21 2013 05:07 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Ridiculous rules, as usual when a centralized organization attempts to tell others what is appropriate and what isnt.

I'm pretty sure that if you fund, organize and promote an event, you have a fairly strong case for making the rules for said event.
Where did I say they had no legitimacy in creating their own rules? Oh right, I didnt. I said the rules were ridiculous, as one ought to expect. *Thats* what I said.


No, you said:

On December 21 2013 05:07 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Ridiculous rules, as usual when a centralized organization attempts to tell others what is appropriate and what isnt.


A centralized organization (Blizzard in this case) isn't "attempting to tell others what is appropriate and what isn't", they're explaining to us how they're going to run their tournaments (played in their game) and how the people participating, in one way or another, in their tournaments, competing for their money or being paid with their money, are expected to behave. There is nothing about what is appropriate and what isn't in the document, they're only explaining, quite clearly, what they won't accept. I realise that you may consider this a fine line, but still.

As for the rules themselves, you didn't actually explain what parts are ridiculous or why.
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Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
December 20 2013 20:20 GMT
#268
On December 21 2013 05:16 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2013 05:15 Squat wrote:
On December 21 2013 05:07 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Ridiculous rules, as usual when a centralized organization attempts to tell others what is appropriate and what isnt.

I'm pretty sure that if you fund, organize and promote an event, you have a fairly strong case for making the rules for said event.
Where did I say they had no legitimacy in creating their own rules? Oh right, I didnt. I said the rules were ridiculous, as one ought to expect. *Thats* what I said.

But they weren't telling others what is appropriate, they were telling others what is appropriate in their tournament. I don't see the ridiculousness.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
December 20 2013 20:21 GMT
#269
On December 21 2013 05:08 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2013 05:00 Zealously wrote:
On December 21 2013 04:58 Happygreek wrote:
On December 21 2013 04:52 Survivor61316 wrote:
On December 20 2013 23:53 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
On December 20 2013 23:36 MajOr wrote:
I. Players may switch races after each match. < retarded

That rule is never going to be used and in case it is used it will be amazing and absolutely reward skill. Being able to play multiple races in a single series nothing to look down upon or to obstruct with a ruleset.

I'm pretty sure what they mean by the wording of that rule is that you must play as one race for an entire series, but can then switch races for your next series (match). Generally, a match refers to the overall BoX, whereas a game refers to each map played.


I interpret match as a single game and a set as in a best of three is a set of matches. Basically the way it's used in tennis. Definitely should be clarified if there's this much confusion.


I'm pretty sure "match" is interpreted as whatever amount of maps (sets) that make up a BoX. For example, a player may have a 65% win rate but a 72% match win rate, meaning that he wins 65% of the maps he plays but 72% of the matches (Best of X-series) that said player participates in.


https://twitter.com/askjoshy/status/414101648768659456

To clear up the subject, a match is a BO3.


Is random a race?
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Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
December 20 2013 20:23 GMT
#270
I'm kind of fine with most of the rules except the no chat thingy. If that was strictly enforced at every tournament then we wouldn't have had some awesome banter like PartinG vs sOs at Red Bull Battlegrounds final. I hope it will be used more as a sort of guideline and not a strict rule in that regard.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 20 2013 20:28 GMT
#271
On December 21 2013 05:21 govie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2013 05:08 Plansix wrote:
On December 21 2013 05:00 Zealously wrote:
On December 21 2013 04:58 Happygreek wrote:
On December 21 2013 04:52 Survivor61316 wrote:
On December 20 2013 23:53 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
On December 20 2013 23:36 MajOr wrote:
I. Players may switch races after each match. < retarded

That rule is never going to be used and in case it is used it will be amazing and absolutely reward skill. Being able to play multiple races in a single series nothing to look down upon or to obstruct with a ruleset.

I'm pretty sure what they mean by the wording of that rule is that you must play as one race for an entire series, but can then switch races for your next series (match). Generally, a match refers to the overall BoX, whereas a game refers to each map played.


I interpret match as a single game and a set as in a best of three is a set of matches. Basically the way it's used in tennis. Definitely should be clarified if there's this much confusion.


I'm pretty sure "match" is interpreted as whatever amount of maps (sets) that make up a BoX. For example, a player may have a 65% win rate but a 72% match win rate, meaning that he wins 65% of the maps he plays but 72% of the matches (Best of X-series) that said player participates in.


https://twitter.com/askjoshy/status/414101648768659456

To clear up the subject, a match is a BO3.


Is random a race?

Yep, awaiting the chosen one to come and take Blizzcon with random.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Fuell
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands3111 Posts
December 20 2013 20:29 GMT
#272
Stephano retired just in time lol
fOu/Zenith/NEX/WeRRa/SlayerS
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
December 20 2013 20:35 GMT
#273
On December 21 2013 05:28 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2013 05:21 govie wrote:
On December 21 2013 05:08 Plansix wrote:
On December 21 2013 05:00 Zealously wrote:
On December 21 2013 04:58 Happygreek wrote:
On December 21 2013 04:52 Survivor61316 wrote:
On December 20 2013 23:53 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
On December 20 2013 23:36 MajOr wrote:
I. Players may switch races after each match. < retarded

That rule is never going to be used and in case it is used it will be amazing and absolutely reward skill. Being able to play multiple races in a single series nothing to look down upon or to obstruct with a ruleset.

I'm pretty sure what they mean by the wording of that rule is that you must play as one race for an entire series, but can then switch races for your next series (match). Generally, a match refers to the overall BoX, whereas a game refers to each map played.


I interpret match as a single game and a set as in a best of three is a set of matches. Basically the way it's used in tennis. Definitely should be clarified if there's this much confusion.


I'm pretty sure "match" is interpreted as whatever amount of maps (sets) that make up a BoX. For example, a player may have a 65% win rate but a 72% match win rate, meaning that he wins 65% of the maps he plays but 72% of the matches (Best of X-series) that said player participates in.


https://twitter.com/askjoshy/status/414101648768659456

To clear up the subject, a match is a BO3.


Is random a race?

Yep, awaiting the chosen one to come and take Blizzcon with random.

He'll stand up the booth, hold his hand up, palm out, and all the bullets from the stimmed bio will clatter to the ground, the forcefields will evaporate and the mutas will crash to the ground. Then Dustin Browder will charge up on stage and start raining blows on him at supersonic speed, only for the chosen one to easily deflect them using only a single hand.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
December 20 2013 20:35 GMT
#274
On December 21 2013 05:28 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2013 05:21 govie wrote:
On December 21 2013 05:08 Plansix wrote:
On December 21 2013 05:00 Zealously wrote:
On December 21 2013 04:58 Happygreek wrote:
On December 21 2013 04:52 Survivor61316 wrote:
On December 20 2013 23:53 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
On December 20 2013 23:36 MajOr wrote:
I. Players may switch races after each match. < retarded

That rule is never going to be used and in case it is used it will be amazing and absolutely reward skill. Being able to play multiple races in a single series nothing to look down upon or to obstruct with a ruleset.

I'm pretty sure what they mean by the wording of that rule is that you must play as one race for an entire series, but can then switch races for your next series (match). Generally, a match refers to the overall BoX, whereas a game refers to each map played.


I interpret match as a single game and a set as in a best of three is a set of matches. Basically the way it's used in tennis. Definitely should be clarified if there's this much confusion.


I'm pretty sure "match" is interpreted as whatever amount of maps (sets) that make up a BoX. For example, a player may have a 65% win rate but a 72% match win rate, meaning that he wins 65% of the maps he plays but 72% of the matches (Best of X-series) that said player participates in.


https://twitter.com/askjoshy/status/414101648768659456

To clear up the subject, a match is a BO3.


Is random a race?

Yep, awaiting the chosen one to come and take Blizzcon with random.

It's what fou has been getting up to, dropped everything to train gumiho to rise in 2014 back on random.
Glorious SEA doto
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 20 2013 20:39 GMT
#275
On December 21 2013 05:35 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2013 05:28 Plansix wrote:
On December 21 2013 05:21 govie wrote:
On December 21 2013 05:08 Plansix wrote:
On December 21 2013 05:00 Zealously wrote:
On December 21 2013 04:58 Happygreek wrote:
On December 21 2013 04:52 Survivor61316 wrote:
On December 20 2013 23:53 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
On December 20 2013 23:36 MajOr wrote:
I. Players may switch races after each match. < retarded

That rule is never going to be used and in case it is used it will be amazing and absolutely reward skill. Being able to play multiple races in a single series nothing to look down upon or to obstruct with a ruleset.

I'm pretty sure what they mean by the wording of that rule is that you must play as one race for an entire series, but can then switch races for your next series (match). Generally, a match refers to the overall BoX, whereas a game refers to each map played.


I interpret match as a single game and a set as in a best of three is a set of matches. Basically the way it's used in tennis. Definitely should be clarified if there's this much confusion.


I'm pretty sure "match" is interpreted as whatever amount of maps (sets) that make up a BoX. For example, a player may have a 65% win rate but a 72% match win rate, meaning that he wins 65% of the maps he plays but 72% of the matches (Best of X-series) that said player participates in.


https://twitter.com/askjoshy/status/414101648768659456

To clear up the subject, a match is a BO3.


Is random a race?

Yep, awaiting the chosen one to come and take Blizzcon with random.

He'll stand up the booth, hold his hand up, palm out, and all the bullets from the stimmed bio will clatter to the ground, the forcefields will evaporate and the mutas will crash to the ground. Then Dustin Browder will charge up on stage and start raining blows on him at supersonic speed, only for the chosen one to easily deflect them using only a single hand.

See threads are way more fun when we focus on making stupid comments and saying dumb thing. Rather than bitch about rules we don't like.

Priorities people! We are taking about competitive vigya games here!
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Warheart
Profile Joined June 2012
Italy25 Posts
December 20 2013 20:39 GMT
#276
oh come on,the audience are not a bunch of monks, thrash talking is one of the best and more enjoyable parts of competition in any sport! i really don't understand why they want to chastise a game that targets young people who are gonna curse and swear everyday anyway...
war is in my heart,death is by my side!
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
December 20 2013 20:47 GMT
#277
On December 21 2013 05:39 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2013 05:35 Squat wrote:
On December 21 2013 05:28 Plansix wrote:
On December 21 2013 05:21 govie wrote:
On December 21 2013 05:08 Plansix wrote:
On December 21 2013 05:00 Zealously wrote:
On December 21 2013 04:58 Happygreek wrote:
On December 21 2013 04:52 Survivor61316 wrote:
On December 20 2013 23:53 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
On December 20 2013 23:36 MajOr wrote:
I. Players may switch races after each match. < retarded

That rule is never going to be used and in case it is used it will be amazing and absolutely reward skill. Being able to play multiple races in a single series nothing to look down upon or to obstruct with a ruleset.

I'm pretty sure what they mean by the wording of that rule is that you must play as one race for an entire series, but can then switch races for your next series (match). Generally, a match refers to the overall BoX, whereas a game refers to each map played.


I interpret match as a single game and a set as in a best of three is a set of matches. Basically the way it's used in tennis. Definitely should be clarified if there's this much confusion.


I'm pretty sure "match" is interpreted as whatever amount of maps (sets) that make up a BoX. For example, a player may have a 65% win rate but a 72% match win rate, meaning that he wins 65% of the maps he plays but 72% of the matches (Best of X-series) that said player participates in.


https://twitter.com/askjoshy/status/414101648768659456

To clear up the subject, a match is a BO3.


Is random a race?

Yep, awaiting the chosen one to come and take Blizzcon with random.

He'll stand up the booth, hold his hand up, palm out, and all the bullets from the stimmed bio will clatter to the ground, the forcefields will evaporate and the mutas will crash to the ground. Then Dustin Browder will charge up on stage and start raining blows on him at supersonic speed, only for the chosen one to easily deflect them using only a single hand.

See threads are way more fun when we focus on making stupid comments and saying dumb thing. Rather than bitch about rules we don't like.

Priorities people! We are taking about competitive vigya games here!

That's kind of why I've never really been crazy about the whole concept of a full time professional gaming scene. It turns something that should be fun and somewhat frivolous into something all together too serious and anxiety-ridden.

There is a reason why HSC has the best LR threads, no one gives a fuck and everyone is just having fun.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Izerman
Profile Joined May 2013
Sweden99 Posts
December 20 2013 21:08 GMT
#278
does this mean Nerchio's in trouble?
hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
December 20 2013 21:26 GMT
#279
I'm more worried about the chat regulations and victory celebrations. I have a feeling that the MC/Parting like ceremonies and banters will be reduced, which will really take way the entertainment value of the SC2
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Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
December 20 2013 21:32 GMT
#280
On December 21 2013 05:39 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2013 05:35 Squat wrote:
On December 21 2013 05:28 Plansix wrote:
On December 21 2013 05:21 govie wrote:
On December 21 2013 05:08 Plansix wrote:
On December 21 2013 05:00 Zealously wrote:
On December 21 2013 04:58 Happygreek wrote:
On December 21 2013 04:52 Survivor61316 wrote:
On December 20 2013 23:53 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
On December 20 2013 23:36 MajOr wrote:
I. Players may switch races after each match. < retarded

That rule is never going to be used and in case it is used it will be amazing and absolutely reward skill. Being able to play multiple races in a single series nothing to look down upon or to obstruct with a ruleset.

I'm pretty sure what they mean by the wording of that rule is that you must play as one race for an entire series, but can then switch races for your next series (match). Generally, a match refers to the overall BoX, whereas a game refers to each map played.


I interpret match as a single game and a set as in a best of three is a set of matches. Basically the way it's used in tennis. Definitely should be clarified if there's this much confusion.


I'm pretty sure "match" is interpreted as whatever amount of maps (sets) that make up a BoX. For example, a player may have a 65% win rate but a 72% match win rate, meaning that he wins 65% of the maps he plays but 72% of the matches (Best of X-series) that said player participates in.


https://twitter.com/askjoshy/status/414101648768659456

To clear up the subject, a match is a BO3.


Is random a race?

Yep, awaiting the chosen one to come and take Blizzcon with random.

He'll stand up the booth, hold his hand up, palm out, and all the bullets from the stimmed bio will clatter to the ground, the forcefields will evaporate and the mutas will crash to the ground. Then Dustin Browder will charge up on stage and start raining blows on him at supersonic speed, only for the chosen one to easily deflect them using only a single hand.

See threads are way more fun when we focus on making stupid comments and saying dumb thing. Rather than bitch about rules we don't like.

Priorities people! We are taking about competitive vigya games here!


So, is Major the oracle and what will Browder start seeing after he copies himself on to him?
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
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