EPTOn December 20 2013 16:55 UmberBane wrote:
GG we reached that point again. I guess this thread is done.
GG we reached that point again. I guess this thread is done.
Oh... is this a... common argument?
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pure.Wasted
Canada4701 Posts
Oh... is this a... common argument? | ||
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JonSki
United Kingdom126 Posts
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Skamtet
Canada634 Posts
On December 20 2013 16:44 pure.Wasted wrote: ...?Hearing LoL described as an RTS makes me sick. It's a strategy game like Diablo 3 is a strategy game, 'Which bosses should I farm for the best loot?! Which team would do best in the arena wearing what gear using what specs?!' The degree to which that's not strategy is monolithic. | ||
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pure.Wasted
Canada4701 Posts
Two people called LOL a strategy game on the last page. I didn't like it. But if this is a can of worms I'm accidentally opening, then I should quit while I'm ahead. Not trying to start a stupid argument. | ||
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Cheren
United States2911 Posts
On December 20 2013 17:54 pure.Wasted wrote: Two people called LOL a strategy game on the last page. I didn't like it. But if this is a can of worms I'm accidentally opening, then I should quit while I'm ahead. Not trying to start a stupid argument. If you're referring to my post, "casual RTS experience" meant recreating the experience of playing BW/WC3 customs better than SC2 did. It's not a replacement for SC2 in terms of strategy. Also saying that LoL doesn't have strategy is a VERY stupid argument, so yes you shouldn't have brought it up. | ||
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Anacreor
Netherlands291 Posts
 Sad to see a team go from Proleague winners to disbandment so soon. | ||
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pure.Wasted
Canada4701 Posts
On December 20 2013 18:09 Cheren wrote: If you're referring to my post, "casual RTS experience" meant recreating the experience of playing BW/WC3 customs better than SC2 did. It's not a replacement for SC2 in terms of strategy. Also saying that LoL doesn't have strategy is a VERY stupid argument, so yes you shouldn't have brought it up. LoL has strategy, just like Counterstrike has strategy, just like COD has strategy, just like any competitive game has strategy. They aren't strategy games, however. | ||
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Cheren
United States2911 Posts
On December 20 2013 18:21 pure.Wasted wrote: LoL has strategy, just like Counterstrike has strategy, just like COD has strategy, just like any competitive game has strategy. They aren't strategy games, however. "The degree to which that's not strategy is monolithic." "just like any competitive game has strategy." Just stop, you're contradicting yourself. | ||
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SmoKim
Denmark10305 Posts
 gogo TB, do it | ||
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pure.Wasted
Canada4701 Posts
On December 20 2013 18:26 Cheren wrote: "The degree to which that's not strategy is monolithic." "just like any competitive game has strategy." Just stop, you're contradicting yourself. I'm not contradicting myself. Every competitive game has strategy in it. A game having strategy in it and a game being a strategy game are obviously not the same thing, otherwise basketball would be a strategy game. I took other people to be saying that MOBAs are strategy games. If I misunderstood, then that's my fault. If I didn't, then my point obviously stands. | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
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JonSki
United Kingdom126 Posts
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Hyvaa | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On December 20 2013 18:53 JonSki wrote: Can we please stop saying hope hyvaa joins this team he is RETIRED!! http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Hyvaa Should add this http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=438816 | ||
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JonSki
United Kingdom126 Posts
On December 20 2013 18:55 FFW_Rude wrote: Should add this http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=438816 Didn't know how to :D thanks!! | ||
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Zerg.Zilla
Hungary5029 Posts
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stefantheterran
Austria61 Posts
Please go to BW Hyvaa and Youngjoo! | ||
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insitelol
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Doublemint
Austria8670 Posts
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VArsovskiSC
Macedonia563 Posts
The add the fact on top of that that it's FREE - no wonder.. I however don't think of LoL as a "superior" game.. I treat it as a game that most people play.. To say that LoL is superior is like saying that Basketball is superior to Fencing or Football is superior to Ski-Jumping.. No offence - the "lesser" known things/sports have it's own beauty too.. only that I kinda feel (and sadden) that that "beauty" hasn't being properly nurtured.. Agree with the first guy who did the comparison despite my "pride" and sympathies for SC2 --> LoL is a superior game in NUMBERS, probably even FAR TOO SUPERIOR like 10x or even 20x as much, but that won't change the fact that the SC2 scene wasn't as good as it could've been and that it wasn't nurtured properly - as he himself said - upgrade costs and movement speed changes hardly did anything to make a meta-fix of some kind.. And agree with it and that kinda hurts TBH.. Call me a noob if you like - not saying that I'm good at it, but the game got "figured out" far too fast IMO, and even far too easily so that very soon all of us started to look at the same games over and over again (TvP didn't get changed a slight bit - if anything it got worse in some way, and TvZ was "break-entered" very soon as well - like the only really good fun matchup we were seeing was the PvZ until the Swarmhosts showed the truth of the late-game in that matchup too).. THAT is a really good reason for why SC2 isn't viewed/followed - or at least not quite as it could have been.. Not saying that it WAS THE REASON, but certainly a REASON THAT COULD'VE BEEN FIXED, but wasn't.. AGAIN - i'm not stating that SC2 could've been better and even comparable to LoL or D2 - what I'm saying is that feels like SC2 didn't achieve IT'S OWN FULL POTENTIAL.. Or at least that potential lasted far too short and now when all the matchups are figured out far too quickly Blizz does NOTHING to fix them and by that - it's frustrating y know | ||
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Doublemint
Austria8670 Posts
On December 20 2013 23:19 VArsovskiSC wrote: Let's just say that the original DotA did the very base for LoL to become big.. At least some basis Some basis? It basically kickstarted the MOBA genre. So at least some "basis", yeah... | ||
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