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pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
December 20 2013 08:12 GMT
#181
On December 20 2013 16:55 UmberBane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2013 16:44 pure.Wasted wrote:
Hearing LoL described as an RTS makes me sick. It's a strategy game like Diablo 3 is a strategy game, 'Which bosses should I farm for the best loot?! Which team would do best in the arena wearing what gear using what specs?!'

The degree to which that's not strategy is monolithic.


GG we reached that point again. I guess this thread is done.


Oh... is this a... common argument?
INna Maru-da-FanTa, Bbaby, TY Dream that I'm Flashing you
JonSki
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom126 Posts
December 20 2013 08:38 GMT
#182
Why people saying pick up hyvaa according to Liquipedia he is retired
"Keep St. George in my heart keep me English"
Skamtet
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada634 Posts
December 20 2013 08:50 GMT
#183
On December 20 2013 16:44 pure.Wasted wrote:
Hearing LoL described as an RTS makes me sick. It's a strategy game like Diablo 3 is a strategy game, 'Which bosses should I farm for the best loot?! Which team would do best in the arena wearing what gear using what specs?!'

The degree to which that's not strategy is monolithic.
...?
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
December 20 2013 08:54 GMT
#184
On December 20 2013 17:50 Skamtet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2013 16:44 pure.Wasted wrote:
Hearing LoL described as an RTS makes me sick. It's a strategy game like Diablo 3 is a strategy game, 'Which bosses should I farm for the best loot?! Which team would do best in the arena wearing what gear using what specs?!'

The degree to which that's not strategy is monolithic.
...?


Two people called LOL a strategy game on the last page. I didn't like it. But if this is a can of worms I'm accidentally opening, then I should quit while I'm ahead. Not trying to start a stupid argument.
INna Maru-da-FanTa, Bbaby, TY Dream that I'm Flashing you
Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-20 09:10:07
December 20 2013 09:09 GMT
#185
On December 20 2013 17:54 pure.Wasted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2013 17:50 Skamtet wrote:
On December 20 2013 16:44 pure.Wasted wrote:
Hearing LoL described as an RTS makes me sick. It's a strategy game like Diablo 3 is a strategy game, 'Which bosses should I farm for the best loot?! Which team would do best in the arena wearing what gear using what specs?!'

The degree to which that's not strategy is monolithic.
...?


Two people called LOL a strategy game on the last page. I didn't like it. But if this is a can of worms I'm accidentally opening, then I should quit while I'm ahead. Not trying to start a stupid argument.


If you're referring to my post, "casual RTS experience" meant recreating the experience of playing BW/WC3 customs better than SC2 did. It's not a replacement for SC2 in terms of strategy.

Also saying that LoL doesn't have strategy is a VERY stupid argument, so yes you shouldn't have brought it up.
Anacreor
Profile Joined February 2013
Netherlands291 Posts
December 20 2013 09:18 GMT
#186
This was kind of expected Sad to see a team go from Proleague winners to disbandment so soon.
"Peter the Acretree chops some wood"
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
December 20 2013 09:21 GMT
#187
On December 20 2013 18:09 Cheren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2013 17:54 pure.Wasted wrote:
On December 20 2013 17:50 Skamtet wrote:
On December 20 2013 16:44 pure.Wasted wrote:
Hearing LoL described as an RTS makes me sick. It's a strategy game like Diablo 3 is a strategy game, 'Which bosses should I farm for the best loot?! Which team would do best in the arena wearing what gear using what specs?!'

The degree to which that's not strategy is monolithic.
...?


Two people called LOL a strategy game on the last page. I didn't like it. But if this is a can of worms I'm accidentally opening, then I should quit while I'm ahead. Not trying to start a stupid argument.


If you're referring to my post, "casual RTS experience" meant recreating the experience of playing BW/WC3 customs better than SC2 did. It's not a replacement for SC2 in terms of strategy.

Also saying that LoL doesn't have strategy is a VERY stupid argument, so yes you shouldn't have brought it up.


LoL has strategy, just like Counterstrike has strategy, just like COD has strategy, just like any competitive game has strategy.

They aren't strategy games, however.
INna Maru-da-FanTa, Bbaby, TY Dream that I'm Flashing you
Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
December 20 2013 09:26 GMT
#188
On December 20 2013 18:21 pure.Wasted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2013 18:09 Cheren wrote:
On December 20 2013 17:54 pure.Wasted wrote:
On December 20 2013 17:50 Skamtet wrote:
On December 20 2013 16:44 pure.Wasted wrote:
Hearing LoL described as an RTS makes me sick. It's a strategy game like Diablo 3 is a strategy game, 'Which bosses should I farm for the best loot?! Which team would do best in the arena wearing what gear using what specs?!'

The degree to which that's not strategy is monolithic.
...?


Two people called LOL a strategy game on the last page. I didn't like it. But if this is a can of worms I'm accidentally opening, then I should quit while I'm ahead. Not trying to start a stupid argument.


If you're referring to my post, "casual RTS experience" meant recreating the experience of playing BW/WC3 customs better than SC2 did. It's not a replacement for SC2 in terms of strategy.

Also saying that LoL doesn't have strategy is a VERY stupid argument, so yes you shouldn't have brought it up.


LoL has strategy, just like Counterstrike has strategy, just like COD has strategy, just like any competitive game has strategy.

They aren't strategy games, however.


"The degree to which that's not strategy is monolithic."

"just like any competitive game has strategy."

Just stop, you're contradicting yourself.
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
December 20 2013 09:35 GMT
#189
Hyvaa should join Axiom, that would make their team perfect rounded with P, T and Z's

gogo TB, do it
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
December 20 2013 09:35 GMT
#190
On December 20 2013 18:26 Cheren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2013 18:21 pure.Wasted wrote:
On December 20 2013 18:09 Cheren wrote:
On December 20 2013 17:54 pure.Wasted wrote:
On December 20 2013 17:50 Skamtet wrote:
On December 20 2013 16:44 pure.Wasted wrote:
Hearing LoL described as an RTS makes me sick. It's a strategy game like Diablo 3 is a strategy game, 'Which bosses should I farm for the best loot?! Which team would do best in the arena wearing what gear using what specs?!'

The degree to which that's not strategy is monolithic.
...?


Two people called LOL a strategy game on the last page. I didn't like it. But if this is a can of worms I'm accidentally opening, then I should quit while I'm ahead. Not trying to start a stupid argument.


If you're referring to my post, "casual RTS experience" meant recreating the experience of playing BW/WC3 customs better than SC2 did. It's not a replacement for SC2 in terms of strategy.

Also saying that LoL doesn't have strategy is a VERY stupid argument, so yes you shouldn't have brought it up.


LoL has strategy, just like Counterstrike has strategy, just like COD has strategy, just like any competitive game has strategy.

They aren't strategy games, however.


"The degree to which that's not strategy is monolithic."

"just like any competitive game has strategy."

Just stop, you're contradicting yourself.


I'm not contradicting myself. Every competitive game has strategy in it. A game having strategy in it and a game being a strategy game are obviously not the same thing, otherwise basketball would be a strategy game. I took other people to be saying that MOBAs are strategy games. If I misunderstood, then that's my fault. If I didn't, then my point obviously stands.
INna Maru-da-FanTa, Bbaby, TY Dream that I'm Flashing you
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
December 20 2013 09:43 GMT
#191
Can we stop the debate of the strategie games ? That's not the topic...
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
JonSki
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom126 Posts
December 20 2013 09:53 GMT
#192
Can we please stop saying hope hyvaa joins this team he is RETIRED!!

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Hyvaa
"Keep St. George in my heart keep me English"
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
December 20 2013 09:55 GMT
#193
On December 20 2013 18:53 JonSki wrote:
Can we please stop saying hope hyvaa joins this team he is RETIRED!!

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Hyvaa


Should add this

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=438816
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
JonSki
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom126 Posts
December 20 2013 09:56 GMT
#194
On December 20 2013 18:55 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2013 18:53 JonSki wrote:
Can we please stop saying hope hyvaa joins this team he is RETIRED!!

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Hyvaa


Should add this

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=438816


Didn't know how to :D thanks!!
"Keep St. George in my heart keep me English"
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
December 20 2013 10:00 GMT
#195
So sad :/
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
stefantheterran
Profile Joined December 2013
Austria61 Posts
December 20 2013 12:46 GMT
#196
Ahhh, so sad Please go to BW Hyvaa and Youngjoo!
insitelol
Profile Joined August 2012
845 Posts
December 20 2013 13:15 GMT
#197
Honestly, who gives a f if someone calls LoL a strategy game.
Less is more.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8513 Posts
December 20 2013 13:45 GMT
#198
too bad really, though most of the willing and capable players already found good homes
VArsovskiSC
Profile Joined July 2010
Macedonia563 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-20 14:44:22
December 20 2013 14:19 GMT
#199
Let's just say that the original DotA did the very base for LoL to become big.. At least some basis

The add the fact on top of that that it's FREE - no wonder..

I however don't think of LoL as a "superior" game.. I treat it as a game that most people play.. To say that LoL is superior is like saying that Basketball is superior to Fencing or Football is superior to Ski-Jumping.. No offence - the "lesser" known things/sports have it's own beauty too.. only that I kinda feel (and sadden) that that "beauty" hasn't being properly nurtured..

Agree with the first guy who did the comparison despite my "pride" and sympathies for SC2 --> LoL is a superior game in NUMBERS, probably even FAR TOO SUPERIOR like 10x or even 20x as much, but that won't change the fact that the SC2 scene wasn't as good as it could've been and that it wasn't nurtured properly - as he himself said - upgrade costs and movement speed changes hardly did anything to make a meta-fix of some kind.. And agree with it and that kinda hurts TBH..

Call me a noob if you like - not saying that I'm good at it, but the game got "figured out" far too fast IMO, and even far too easily so that very soon all of us started to look at the same games over and over again (TvP didn't get changed a slight bit - if anything it got worse in some way, and TvZ was "break-entered" very soon as well - like the only really good fun matchup we were seeing was the PvZ until the Swarmhosts showed the truth of the late-game in that matchup too)..

THAT is a really good reason for why SC2 isn't viewed/followed - or at least not quite as it could have been.. Not saying that it WAS THE REASON, but certainly a REASON THAT COULD'VE BEEN FIXED, but wasn't..

AGAIN - i'm not stating that SC2 could've been better and even comparable to LoL or D2 - what I'm saying is that feels like SC2 didn't achieve IT'S OWN FULL POTENTIAL.. Or at least that potential lasted far too short and now when all the matchups are figured out far too quickly Blizz does NOTHING to fix them and by that - it's frustrating y know
Another world, another place, another universe, won the race.. :) ;) :P
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8513 Posts
December 20 2013 14:21 GMT
#200
On December 20 2013 23:19 VArsovskiSC wrote:
Let's just say that the original DotA did the very base for LoL to become big.. At least some basis


Some basis? It basically kickstarted the MOBA genre. So at least some "basis", yeah...
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