On December 17 2013 04:09 DinoMight wrote: I think 2v2s would be fun to watch.
They need to get some good 2v2 map makers though. IMO the biggest issue is for teams that have 2 Zergs playing against a team that has 1 Zerg. Early ling allins are just so hard to deal with in that case because it's very difficult for the non-zerg to help.
I don't think that the 1v1 balance needs to be changed necessarily in order for 2v2 to be viable. And I also don't think 2v2 will be played at the same level as 1s in terms of time dedicated to it.. it will just be something fun for the fans to watch. Ultimately that's all that counts anyway right? It's the reason all professional sports are played (viewership).
I would actually say that competition's the most important thing, and that viewers come second. If these players don't wanna compete in this form, they wouldn't focus as much on 2v2.
If viewers want to watch something, it will make money. Then people will want to be good at it to earn money.
Viewership is everything. All pro sports are businesses, and those who bring money in are the viewers.
People are still gonna compete in StarCraft II with or without these sponsors. Sure we wouldn't get pro-level play, but to assume that we the viewers are the most important thing is really questionable.
For professional Esports, yes, viewers are the most important thing.
How do you pay your players if you have no viewers and no sponsors?
It's the only reason pro sports exist... for people to watch them.
Otherwise, everyone would be playing pickup games on the weekends. And they'd be really high level games.. but not a professional sport.
On December 17 2013 04:09 DinoMight wrote: I think 2v2s would be fun to watch.
They need to get some good 2v2 map makers though. IMO the biggest issue is for teams that have 2 Zergs playing against a team that has 1 Zerg. Early ling allins are just so hard to deal with in that case because it's very difficult for the non-zerg to help.
I don't think that the 1v1 balance needs to be changed necessarily in order for 2v2 to be viable. And I also don't think 2v2 will be played at the same level as 1s in terms of time dedicated to it.. it will just be something fun for the fans to watch. Ultimately that's all that counts anyway right? It's the reason all professional sports are played (viewership).
I would actually say that competition's the most important thing, and that viewers come second. If these players don't wanna compete in this form, they wouldn't focus as much on 2v2.
If viewers want to watch something, it will make money. Then people will want to be good at it to earn money.
Viewership is everything. All pro sports are businesses, and those who bring money in are the viewers.
People are still gonna compete in StarCraft II with or without these sponsors. Sure we wouldn't get pro-level play, but to assume that we the viewers are the most important thing is really questionable.
For professional Esports, yes, viewers are the most important thing.
How do you pay your players if you have no viewers and no sponsors?
It's the only reason pro sports exist... for people to watch them.
Otherwise, everyone would be playing pickup games on the weekends. And they'd be really high level games.. but not a professional sport.
But we'd still have players competing. Without competition, there wouldn't even be a framework for an industry in the first place. If all our StarCraft pros got bored of SC (or hated the format, or whatever), we wouldn't even have competing StarCraft at all, let alone an industry.
I don't enjoy watching 2v2, but a) this might change when someone actually tries to do it seriously, incentivized by a big tournament, so it is more legitimate and/or b) if there are people who enjoy it and a 2v2 portion of the tournament keeps them interested in the league then sure, it should definitely be done!
But it would be passable if they used actually half decent 2v2 maps, but SPL has had a pretty poor record with regards to picking logical with maps so far in SC2, so I wouldn't trust them with it for a second.
Also I agree with wax who said earlier in the thread that it would only really force players to waste their time learning 2v2 when practically no other tourneys anywhere use it. That's not smart.
Even if nobody practices for it and the meta game is not developped, I still think 2v2 would be really entertaining as long as the maps are decent.
They could do it only as a for fun thing with a small prize. But I think it would be fun to watch and it would attract more viewers. A lot of people who play SC2 only play team games. I think those people would watch it and you could use it as a gateway to get them into 1v1 pro scene.
EPT
i meant 2015.
