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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
On October 25 2013 12:51 Slasher wrote: A certain Blizzard member deleted me off Skype today after showing him this video.  sounds like no region lock coming then ? ... if rly i stop watching its only korean in the end but worse then gsl was in past  | ||
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eonDE
Canada371 Posts
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Elite_
United States4259 Posts
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SCST
Mexico1609 Posts
On October 26 2013 06:22 Drake wrote: sounds like no region lock coming then ? ... if rly i stop watching its only korean in the end but worse then gsl was in past I highly doubt region lock is coming. I've come to learn over the years that these guys would much rather attempt to preserve their sense of righteousness than do what the community wants and the industry requires. This isn't a battle to decide what's best for Starcraft 2 - the solutions are obvious. Rather, this is a battle to preserve the ego's of the decision-makers behind WCS who refuse to admit that they've made a mistake. Also, can't really blame the decision-makers for their stubborness (selfish as it may be), as their jobs may very well depend on continuing the charade that the current system is meeting Blizzard's objectives. Self-preservation is a pretty strong human instinct. | ||
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Herro_Korea
310 Posts
already out | ||
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lamprey1
Canada919 Posts
Blizzard support for SC2 is down folks. | ||
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JacobShock
Denmark2485 Posts
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
On October 26 2013 07:22 lamprey1 wrote: i love how HuK exposed the money issue. Blizzard support for SC2 is down folks. HuK "Ya, I liked how there were regional storylines. Like remember when US had...Idra...and...whoeverelse" yep, those valuable storylines. | ||
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neptunusfisk
2286 Posts
On October 26 2013 07:37 Sub40APM wrote: HuK "Ya, I liked how there were regional storylines. Like remember when US had...Idra...and...whoeverelse" yep, those valuable storylines. hahaha yeah, spot on! (who remembers last years WCS? seriously? i only remember some awesome kr pvp and then two days worth of parting soul train pushing noobs into the ground) | ||
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
On October 26 2013 07:39 neptunusfisk wrote: lol so many sad, hurt foreigners hahaha yeah, spot on! (who remembers last years WCS? seriously? i only remember some awesome kr pvp and then two days worth of parting soul train pushing noobs into the ground) ya i mean they really let the cat out of the bag when they say 'too many koreans, and i cant beat them all' and then the good old self justification 'even if i was korean it would be impossible to win' | ||
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rivurivurivurivu
Sweden140 Posts
I really dont understand why pros want a region/residence lock, its like praying for a protection against koreans. Having a WCS Canada,USA,Mexico, etc for example with region lock will be (from a viewer point) boring imo. lets take canada for example. We know how good Scarlet and Huk are, they will probably win. as a viewer why watch a residence locked WCS Canada if i know who will win? There is no challenge for Huk or Scarlet there are no Koreans to defeat. No Canada vs Korea, just Huk and Scarlet. I agree with TLO and QXC. WCS is too big, international tournaments should be as important. be able to win WCS points from DH,EIM or HSC will help foreigners but as Demuslim said, the problem is that not everybody can practice vs Koreans in lader. maybe a extra tier in the lader after GM, i dont know Pro league ? a mixed server from all the world could help. dont know if it is possible tho. Again as demuslim said it will be awesome to see a clash at the end of wcs a sweden player vs korea, a canada player vs korea but the true is that foreigners dont have the level yet. I prefer 1 single foreigner to make to the WCS finals and know that he/she have a chance to win than 8 (random number) and get stomped by Koreans just because the where protected in the qualifiers. my 2 cents | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On October 26 2013 06:22 Drake wrote: sounds like no region lock coming then ? ... if rly i stop watching its only korean in the end but worse then gsl was in past I Wouldn't read that much into it. lmao -__- | ||
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neptunusfisk
2286 Posts
On October 26 2013 07:50 Sub40APM wrote: ya i mean they really let the cat out of the bag when they say 'too many koreans, and i cant beat them all' and then the good old self justification 'even if i was korean it would be impossible to win' yes, the sad truth of not being good enough "blizz, please make easier tournaments so i can win against worse players and then be cannon fodder for koreans in a big event" | ||
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BronzeKnee
United States5219 Posts
Suppy: Critical of WCS, no compelling storyline, made it harder for foreigners. Wants region locking. Hyun: Wants to keep things the same because WCS went through a huge change, worries that Koreans will suffer if things change again. TLO: WCS too important for the scene, everyone focuses on WCS. Wants to relocate WCS points to other events to alleviate this. Curious: Increase prize pool, not enough money for players to earn. Huk: Region locking is necessary. Everyone prefered the older WCS, new WCS isn't as exciting. Sasquatch: Region locking by residency. Wants more ways to qualify, including the ladder. State: Not region locking was a mistake. Demuslim: A real region lock needs to happen. Hero: WCS is good for me because I can travel to the US and play WCS. But Koreans are everywhere so it is bad. Revival: Pretty happy since I've been doing well. Would like to see more leagues in Korea. QXC: Not for a region lock, doesn't solve the primary issue. The primary issues are season too long, and chances to participate are not frequent enough. WCS does not promote cross server play or ladder. Life: Wish they would get rid of WCS. | ||
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Weird
United States832 Posts
On October 26 2013 06:57 SCST wrote: I highly doubt region lock is coming. I've come to learn over the years that these guys would much rather attempt to preserve their sense of righteousness than do what the community wants and the industry requires. This isn't a battle to decide what's best for Starcraft 2 - the solutions are obvious. Rather, this is a battle to preserve the ego's of the decision-makers behind WCS who refuse to admit that they've made a mistake. Also, can't really blame the decision-makers for their stubborness (selfish as it may be), as their jobs may very well depend on continuing the charade that the current system is meeting Blizzard's objectives. Self-preservation is a pretty strong human instinct. Wow, someone really doesn't like Blizzard huh? I like how instead of trying to backup your claims with facts you just vomit more and more gross generalizations and dumb opinions... Like who are you? Some random dude on an internet forum right? It's a complex situation, but yeah, just hate hate hate, that'll fix things... Maybe you can give Slasher your skype number to replace the one that he lost from his Blizzard contact, and you two can fix everything huh?  | ||
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AnachronisticAnarchy
United States2957 Posts
For instance, the water may need more "chumming." The big dogs, the alpha predators paddle casually along at the top of the food chain, gobbling down their opposition every 3 months. Everyone else tends to just get stuck with each other, the not-good-enoughs and the could-have-beens. They lack the constant, elite competition the upper echelons have to keep their fangs sharp, so the lower-tier guys have their motivation and competitive drive slowly throttled over a period of months. A few among them are very strong and may rise to the top of their club, but they're the big fish of a small pond, the catfish to the carcharodons. Training for the WCS is like repetitively jumping up and down every day in the hopes of succeeding at a single high jump a few months down the line. There needs to be blood, conflict, uncertainty, something to put a chink in the armor of alphas. When the competitive can smell blood in the water, it draws them, slowly but surely, until, one day, after their skills have been sharpened on a thousand foes in preparation, they finally sink their teeth in and taste their victory. | ||
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SCST
Mexico1609 Posts
On October 26 2013 09:20 Weird wrote: Wow, someone really doesn't like Blizzard huh? I like how instead of trying to backup your claims with facts you just vomit more and more gross generalizations and dumb opinions... Like who are you? Some random dude on an internet forum right? It's a complex situation, but yeah, just hate hate hate, that'll fix things... Maybe you can give Slasher your skype number to replace the one that he lost from his Blizzard contact, and you two can fix everything huh? Is that you, David Kim? You probably work for Blizzard and WCS. Nobody else would be so ardent in the defense of WCS unless they were completely ignorant of the history of Starcraft 2 (which is a possibility as you demand "facts" related to the stupidity of poor WCS decisions that no one else disputes). Sure, it's my opinion that certain decision-makers behind WCS are either incompetent or have something else going on (egotistical and stubborn). And I think that opinion is fairly justified. Because the solutions to their problems are so obvious that even a four-year old could resolve them. And since I refuse to believe that these people are such morons that they can't figure out the solutions that are being shoved in their faces (literally) daily by every foreign player, personality and reputable community member. .. . then that leaves the remaining option of something weird going on, right? I speculate that it's a form of mania. But I needn't say more. Because if you've got such a hard-on for WCS or blizzard that you would go after my post as baseless "hate" rhetoric, then you're probably also happy with the status quo and don't want to see anything change. P.S. And the idea that the problems with WCS are "complex" . . . Did you watch the video that is the entire purpose of this thread? Some people are so dense that every person on the planet could tell them solution in two words - the exact same solution - for years and they would still not get it. REGION LOCK. lol | ||
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wUndertUnge
United States1125 Posts
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Weird
United States832 Posts
I'm not defending WCS. I'm just pointing out how you are posting like an angry chimpanzee. That is all. Edit: and I'm pretty sure that David Kim is in charge of the balance team, and has nothing to do with tournament structure, but say whatever you want, it's the internet right? Clown. | ||
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SCST
Mexico1609 Posts
On October 26 2013 11:04 Weird wrote: Just more vomit. I'm not defending WCS. I'm just pointing out how you are posting like an angry chimpanzee. That is all. Edit: and I'm pretty sure that David Kim is in charge of the balance team, and has nothing to do with tournament structure, but say whatever you want, it's the internet right? Clown. Cynical yes. Angry, nah. Didn't see me using words like "vomit" in my post, did you? Ha. My post wasn't directed at anyone who posts on these forums. It's just a cynical opinion regarding WCS. Take a deep breath next time, before you get so worked up over a cynical forum post that you just have to try and pick a fight and start your "vomit" campaign on our forums. Lol. | ||
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