• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:00
CEST 19:00
KST 02:00
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play1Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview8
Community News
[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)63ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo31Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested0RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 202611
StarCraft 2
General
Mizenhauer's Douyu Cup Preview ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play Enough with this crap patch: boring and suck! Is the larve respawn broken? 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) INu's Battles#17 <BO.9> Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament GSL CK #4 20-21th June
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery Mutation # 530 One For All Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed
Brood War
General
ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool BW General Discussion Quality of life changes in BW that you will like ? [BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June BSL Season 22
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues The Casual Games of the Week Thread [BSL22] GosuLeague Casts - Tue & Thu 22:00 CEST CSLAN 4 is Coming!
Strategy
Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Beyond All Reason Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread [H]Internet/Gaming Cafe Tips and Tricks
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How To Predict Tilt in Espor…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7418 users

TLO, HerO, HuK, Demuslim, Suppy on WCS 2013 & 2014

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 Next All
Slasher
Profile Joined September 2007
United States1095 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-25 06:11:43
October 24 2013 22:06 GMT
#1
I interviewed many pro players at IEM NYC including TLO, HerO, HuK, Demuslim, Suppy, Revival, Life, HyuN, QXC and Sasquatch regarding WCS 2013 and 2014. Their thoughts on playing this year's WCS in their respective regions and how the format affected them, and what they would like to see next year. Region locking was in favor of the NA players and HerO, while the other Koreans didn't mind too much.

:
Slasher
Profile Joined September 2007
United States1095 Posts
October 25 2013 03:51 GMT
#2
A certain Blizzard member deleted me off Skype today after showing him this video.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-25 04:07:57
October 25 2013 04:04 GMT
#3
The Life segment is not in this video, right? It's in the other, because I can't find life in here only Curious .

Oh it's in the last 5 seconds, lol @ response
snorlax1
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore233 Posts
October 25 2013 04:05 GMT
#4
On October 25 2013 12:51 Slasher wrote:
A certain Blizzard member deleted me off Skype today after showing him this video.

wow, thats hurt
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 25 2013 04:06 GMT
#5
On October 25 2013 12:51 Slasher wrote:
A certain Blizzard member deleted me off Skype today after showing him this video.


Burned a bridge. True journalism reached.
Moderator
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 25 2013 04:10 GMT
#6
On October 25 2013 12:51 Slasher wrote:
A certain Blizzard member deleted me off Skype today after showing him this video.

Good reporting. I'm sure you will get the access you want later. Seriously, it's one thing to report, it's another to brag about the bridges you burned.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
October 25 2013 04:14 GMT
#7
On October 25 2013 12:51 Slasher wrote:
A certain Blizzard member deleted me off Skype today after showing him this video.

That's almost unimaginable!
Some interesting bits in here for sure though. May need to watch it again when I'm less tired.
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
Dradugun
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada9 Posts
October 25 2013 04:17 GMT
#8
I appreciate the interviews Slasher!
Hero's English is incredibly good, it's a shame that he's fairly shy for post game interviews :/

For the actual responses I think Sasquatch's idea is the best about having ladder seed into Premier or Challenger, thus directly introducing major competition into the very top. At the tippy-top, if you watch DeMuslim's stream when he was #1 NA, its very, very easy to lose ladder points, but alsoa lot of games to get those points back up. More high level games on ladder, the better.
Mahanaim
Profile Joined December 2012
Korea (South)1002 Posts
October 25 2013 04:18 GMT
#9
Pretty sure there is another story behind what you said
Celebrating Starcraft since... a long time ago.
askmc70
Profile Joined March 2012
United States722 Posts
October 25 2013 04:25 GMT
#10
On October 25 2013 13:04 Pandain wrote:
The Life segment is not in this video, right? It's in the other, because I can't find life in here only Curious .

Oh it's in the last 5 seconds, lol @ response

what was the response? it was too fast to hear.
warshop
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada490 Posts
October 25 2013 04:29 GMT
#11
Interesting viewpoint from Qxc, definitely another side.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
October 25 2013 04:30 GMT
#12
Lol @ Life.

very good interviews overall. Would find it interesting if the ladder became more important for WCS as well.

dgwow
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1024 Posts
October 25 2013 04:35 GMT
#13
Like the idea about ladder having some effect in seeding into WCS, having players play only on the server for the WCS region they want to enter, and Demu & QXCs responses.
Don't let those anti-cheese advocates tell you what to do. Rush to meet life head on!
vesicular
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1310 Posts
October 25 2013 04:38 GMT
#14
I like locking players to the regions ladder. That alone might be enough to "force" region lock to half the Koreans.
STX Fighting!
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-25 04:50:32
October 25 2013 04:46 GMT
#15
Nearly unanimously, the players said they would like some type of region locking for 2014, including the Korean players.
That seems pretty misleading to me. I didn't see any of the Koreans say that they would like region locking. The only one to make reference was Hero, who said it was a system that benefited him and not foreigners (which isn't the same as asking for a region lock). The Koreans mostly complained about reductions in prize pool and increasingly limited options within Korea. Again, not the same as a region lock (and it's not unreasonable to expect that prize pool inside Korea won't change much under a region lock, if anything the amount of money earned by Koreans will decrease overall).

Hell, Hyun even said that he hope things don't change because it will screw over a bunch of Koreans.

qxc's opinion on WCS was interesting and well thought out. Clever guy!
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-25 04:53:26
October 25 2013 04:47 GMT
#16
On October 25 2013 12:51 Slasher wrote:
A certain Blizzard member deleted me off Skype today after showing him this video.

Let's be fair here; it's you. I imagine you've harped constantly on the issue, and this was the last straw rather than the first trigger.

It is normal to close -certain- channels of communication when you're being inundated with the same message from everywhere. I have a lot of experience with having to do this, and I'm not even somebody who is remotely important in anything. It's only human.
Weird
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States832 Posts
October 25 2013 04:50 GMT
#17
On October 25 2013 12:51 Slasher wrote:
A certain Blizzard member deleted me off Skype today after showing him this video.


Good for him/her.

The more people in the industry that delete you the better.
nextstep
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada705 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-25 04:50:51
October 25 2013 04:50 GMT
#18
interesting to see how some pros feel about WCS system.

thanks for the interview!
go KHAN! TBLS <3
Darkdwarf
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Sweden960 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-25 04:52:51
October 25 2013 04:51 GMT
#19
Qxc said things best in the video. More opportunities to compete with the koreans, not less, is what is needed.

Region locking WCS would really FUCK the korean scene, and that is not needed. Having koreans across the world help WCS keep some level of quality across the board, while the foreigners can slowly feed in, like we're somewhat seeing with players like JonSnow, FireCake etc. Again, like qxc said, what's needed is just more moments where these foreigners get that chance.

And as always, more money is always nice, of course...

Edit: Also, my dream scenario is that GOM gets to do all of WCS KR next year and that OGN will do several more open tournaments as the highest tier of non-wcs tournaments (even though I'm still not sure if I like that phenomena at all (the rich get richer etc).
Teams: IM, Jin Air, Invictus || Players: Maru, GuMiho, INnoVation, Ryung, sOs, Squirtle, NaNiwa, Has, Zoun, Life, Rogue, Dark
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 25 2013 04:51 GMT
#20
Slasher was the Life answer focused around region-locking or WCS as a whole?
1 2 3 4 5 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
16:00
King of the Hill #254
EmpressLilyy32
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ByuN 625
LamboSC2 485
MindelVK 29
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 23096
Calm 3016
Sea 1203
EffOrt 634
Mini 613
Jaedong 199
BeSt 158
Shuttle 155
actioN 149
firebathero 111
[ Show more ]
Sea.KH 65
ggaemo 60
Leta 54
Hyun 35
yabsab 27
scan(afreeca) 23
NotJumperer 22
IntoTheRainbow 19
Rock 17
HiyA 17
Sacsri 13
Dota 2
Gorgc8482
qojqva1459
Dendi962
League of Legends
KnowMe50
Counter-Strike
fl0m1977
adren_tv54
Other Games
singsing3194
FrodaN1483
B2W.Neo1171
hiko1019
Beastyqt576
DeMusliM309
Sick181
XaKoH 129
ArmadaUGS82
Mew2King67
QueenE49
Trikslyr41
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream15346
StarCraft 2
TaKeTV 373
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• iHatsuTV 9
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Migwel
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki15
• FirePhoenix1
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis6118
• TFBlade1199
Other Games
• Shiphtur201
Upcoming Events
Bombastic Starleague
3h 1m
Douyu Cup 2020
12h 1m
Neeb vs Impact
MacSed vs Cyan
Scarlett vs Kelazhur
INnoVation vs Dear
Big Brain Bouts
23h 1m
Jumy vs eGGz
Harstem vs sebesdes
TriGGeR vs HeRoMaRinE
Douyu Cup 2020
1d 12h
Maestros of the Game
1d 19h
herO vs Classic
Maru vs Serral
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
1d 21h
Douyu Cup 2020
2 days
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
2 days
Online Event
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Bombastic Starleague
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
OSC
6 days
CrankTV Team League
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-06-24
WardiTV Spring 2026
Heroes Pulsing #2

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 1
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
SCTL 2026 Spring
Douyu Cup 2026
Maestros of the Game 2
Murky Cup 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
BCC 2026
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E1
Heroes Pulsing #3
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.