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Stop the League of Legends bashing. Temp bans will be handed out from now on. - Page 32.
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
October 11 2013 07:46 GMT
#281
Bad news to wake up to. I hope MKP does well, but his skill and personality will be sorely missed in the SC2 scene.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 11 2013 07:46 GMT
#282
Now just waiting for Flash.
Faker v Flash midlane showdown plz.
liftlift > tsm
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
October 11 2013 07:48 GMT
#283
Sad day. I hoped it would be EG as sc2 or a dota2 squad like MVP has, but not even that! He chooses LoL!! Well, he is smart, LoL if u like it or not, is the biggest game out there. glgl
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
Malphite
Profile Joined December 2012
United States186 Posts
October 11 2013 07:49 GMT
#284
I'm actually sad about this.. even though i don't play SC2 anymore... this makes me sad..

MVP and MKP were the main reason i loved sc2....

The biggest retirement yet IMO... League is too competitive for someone who just started to play... I'd love to see him do well in League.... but just like Cocoa and puzzle...... unlikely...
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8687 Posts
October 11 2013 07:50 GMT
#285
Kinda sad, but not too surprising considering his lack of results. Maybe he will be able to do well in LoL.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
tuestresfat
Profile Joined December 2010
2555 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-11 07:52:22
October 11 2013 07:51 GMT
#286
idk why people say LoL is such an easy game... I found it so much harder than sc2 T_T

making diamond (when it was the highest) with all 3 races on separate accts was so easy... less than 50 games each. Sure, getting to mid-high masters was a challenge but not that bad...

merely getting to gold in LoL was a fking nightmare

edit: no prior moba or rts experience whatsoever
AsaZZang
Profile Joined June 2013
Germany30 Posts
October 11 2013 07:51 GMT
#287
*** this *** =(
iLoVeLiquidHerO <3
Malphite
Profile Joined December 2012
United States186 Posts
October 11 2013 07:53 GMT
#288
On October 11 2013 16:51 tuestresfat wrote:
idk why people say LoL is such an easy game... I found it so much harder than sc2 T_T

making diamond (when it was the highest) with all 3 races on separate accts was so easy... less than 50 games each. Sure, getting to mid-high masters was a challenge but not that bad...

merely getting to gold in LoL was a fking nightmare


same here... LOL..... but difference was i've been playing BW for 5 years.. so easy transition...

Gold in league... but easy masters in SC2 protoss/zerg


League is totally based on team decisions... team fights and such. split decisions to turn fights. MKP has the mechanics but now he needs to apply it League..

I got a feeling he will do well...
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
October 11 2013 07:53 GMT
#289
Good move by MKP, he has made decent money, and now its time to get out. Good luck with LoL i hope he does well although i am sure the LoL scene will start to look more cramped as pro gamers switch to it more over the next 12 months.

MKP gave us some good memories and his micro paved the way on how to play Terran, an important player to the SC2 scene
sqrt
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1210 Posts
October 11 2013 07:56 GMT
#290
On October 11 2013 16:09 xtyxtbx wrote:
At least switch to Dota 2. This is embarrasing to the starcraft 2 community. At least I'd still hold lots of respect for going into a competitive game like dota 2. Don't get me wrong i respect marineking for his amazing games and effort he put into starcraft but this is just.... no.


But LoL is more competitive - more fans, more money, higher quality of tournaments.

And let's not pretend DotA is not casual - it was that map everyone played because they sucked at Warcraft.

As for the news - expected. There are not a lot more money than the SC2 scene and there is little incentive for new sponsors to chime in, moving to the biggest eSport game is the smart move.

Doesn't mean I won't miss him.
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rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
October 11 2013 07:57 GMT
#291
On a sidenote, does anyone ever know what happened to all the former BW and former SC2 pros who switched to LoL are up to now?

Very curious as to how Grape is doing. I don't follow LoL but I think he and a bunch of ex-Samsung KHAN players switched to LoL back at the end of KeSPA hosting BW leagues.

I know Puzzle and CoCa eventually came back to SC2. What happened to sC?
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 11 2013 07:58 GMT
#292
On October 11 2013 16:57 rebdomine wrote:
On a sidenote, does anyone ever know what happened to all the former BW and former SC2 pros who switched to LoL are up to now?

Very curious as to how Grape is doing. I don't follow LoL but I think he and a bunch of ex-Samsung KHAN players switched to LoL back at the end of KeSPA hosting BW leagues.

I know Puzzle and CoCa eventually came back to SC2. What happened to sC?


sC came back to sc2 and FXO for a while but recently " retired " and switched back to LoL again, apparently Grape did well in LoL and is on the core roster of a good team.
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
October 11 2013 07:59 GMT
#293
On October 11 2013 16:57 rebdomine wrote:
On a sidenote, does anyone ever know what happened to all the former BW and former SC2 pros who switched to LoL are up to now?

Very curious as to how Grape is doing. I don't follow LoL but I think he and a bunch of ex-Samsung KHAN players switched to LoL back at the end of KeSPA hosting BW leagues.

I know Puzzle and CoCa eventually came back to SC2. What happened to sC?


sC came back to SC2 and retired this week :/
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
October 11 2013 08:00 GMT
#294
On October 11 2013 16:57 rebdomine wrote:
On a sidenote, does anyone ever know what happened to all the former BW and former SC2 pros who switched to LoL are up to now?

Very curious as to how Grape is doing. I don't follow LoL but I think he and a bunch of ex-Samsung KHAN players switched to LoL back at the end of KeSPA hosting BW leagues.

I know Puzzle and CoCa eventually came back to SC2. What happened to sC?


Tazza, former hite Sparkyz player, is now watch. He's gone to the LoL World Championships two years in a row. Very popular player.

Grape, former Samsung Khan player, is now Ggoong. He made his debut during OGN Summer, the most recent League tournament in Korea, and is a starter on Tazza's sister team, Najin White Shield. He was extremely good mechanically in his rookie season, but had some questionable decisions. Has a lot of potential and has kept his job going into the OGN Winter season.

Brave didn't make it. sC didn't make it, came back to SC2, and is now going to try LoL again with TheBest.
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Advantageous
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
China1350 Posts
October 11 2013 08:04 GMT
#295
Goddamn it... I hope MKP keeps his name... Kong4Ever...
"Because I am BossToss" -MC ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ raise your dongers ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ I'm sure that all of my fellow class mates viewed me as the Adonis of the Class of 2015 already. -Xenocider, EG, ieF 2013 Champion.
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3751 Posts
October 11 2013 08:06 GMT
#296
On October 11 2013 14:16 juicyjames wrote:
I'm curious how many progamers who switch games (as a player, not as a coach) actually do well in the new game. Or if it is just one last effort to stay in eSports before moving on.

It depends. Please keep in mind that i.e. Stephano was playing Warcraft 3 professionally before switching to SC2. The same goes for ThorZaIN.

Let me rephrase a question for you:
I'm curious how many progamers who excelled in old game and switch games, actually do well in the new game.
SilentShout
Profile Joined March 2011
686 Posts
October 11 2013 08:07 GMT
#297
Sad to see another iconic figure depart. On the other hand, excited to potentially see him in a game I actually watch nowadays.
Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
October 11 2013 08:08 GMT
#298
League of legends is a fun game, imma go pro too! Nah, just kidding, getting 4 people to work with you is pain in the ass.
Progamer"I am the best" - Nerchio , 2017.
kickinhead
Profile Joined December 2008
Switzerland2069 Posts
October 11 2013 08:09 GMT
#299
On October 11 2013 16:56 sqrt wrote:
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On October 11 2013 16:09 xtyxtbx wrote:
At least switch to Dota 2. This is embarrasing to the starcraft 2 community. At least I'd still hold lots of respect for going into a competitive game like dota 2. Don't get me wrong i respect marineking for his amazing games and effort he put into starcraft but this is just.... no.


But LoL is more competitive - more fans, more money, higher quality of tournaments.

And let's not pretend DotA is not casual - it was that map everyone played because they sucked at Warcraft.

As for the news - expected. There are not a lot more money than the SC2 scene and there is little incentive for new sponsors to chime in, moving to the biggest eSport game is the smart move.

Doesn't mean I won't miss him.


more popular maybe, but in terms of complexity and required skill it's far below dota2 or HoN. Besides, dota2 is getting more popular, even in South Korea and might even catch up to LoL someday. ^^'

Don't get me wrong, there are several reasons why LoL is so popular: great timing in releasing the game, great support for both casual and pro-players by RIOT, great marketing, it's accessible etc. But IMHO, heavily e-sports-related people will sooner or later move on to the more complex and sophisticated game, if it doesn't heavily lack in other parts (which Dota2 doesn't, in any other form than the lower number of players).

So to get back to the topic: Why doesn't some dota2 Team pick up MKP? I mean, there are already several Korean SC2 Pro-Teams with Dota2 Teams (ST, MVP, FXO) and it could be a great popularity-booster for dota2. That's the kind of advertising that will really bring new Players and Viewers to your game and that's exactly where RIOT does everything right - I bet they got MKP an offer or sth. or maybe even the allure of the tons of Prize-money for a moderately hard to play game was enough.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 11 2013 08:12 GMT
#300
dota may be more complex, but it's not like competition in lol is any easier. it's like the difference between chess and go
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
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