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Bisu retires - Page 41

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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 09 2013 23:02 GMT
#801
On September 10 2013 07:39 YyapSsap wrote:
And is plansix a part of blizzards damage control team? Cant believe hes spewing all sorts of *** in a retirement thread of a player who was one of the biggest contributors to the starcraft scene and is probably one of the reasons why sc2 was possible in the first place. A player who single handily brought back the protoss back into equation from the dark ages. He changed the fundamentals of how protoss should be played forever. So please stop and give bisu and his fans some respect.

Please, when have disrespected Bisu fans or spewed shit about him? I only said that his retirement might be more than just "I don't like SC2 and its all Blizzard fault," that some people have been throwing around. And from the report above, it looks like he stood to make less money, which is a great reason to look to the future. I can't blame his reasoning and if he wanted to move on, that's I hope he finds great things.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
pzea469
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1520 Posts
September 09 2013 23:05 GMT
#802
Broodwar is what brought me to TL and Bisu taking down Savior with fast expands into corsair DTs is what made me fall in love with the game. I haven't followed Bisu into SC2 because I've never enjoyed SC2 as much as I enjoyed BW, but I still feel sad to see him go. Here's to Bisu, my favorite BW player.
Kill the Deathball
Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
September 09 2013 23:06 GMT
#803
noooooooooooooo T_T

rip dragons, alarming rate of extinction

Thx Bisu for the all the games throughout the years and best of luck in your future

[image loading]
Kim Taek Yong fighting~
riyanme
Profile Joined September 2010
Philippines940 Posts
September 09 2013 23:10 GMT
#804
On September 10 2013 07:30 Xiphos wrote:
From the BW thread:

Show nested quote +
On September 10 2013 07:25 OpticalShot wrote:
Drop the speculation, here comes a translation!
(shit that rhymes)
*edit: ALSO THIS WAS MY 6K POST NOOOOO BISU YOU BETTER MAKE UP FOR IT


Source: Fomos
Article by Reporter Myung-Hoon Kang
Pictures not included because go click that link above and give the poor site some traffic.

The Reasons Behind the Retirement of Bisu, the 'Revolutionist'

Immediately following the retirement of Taek-Yong 'Revolutionist' Kim (Bisu) on the 9th, many have been speculating his reasons for doing so.

While on a break after the conclusion of SK Planet StarCraft 2 Proleague 12-13 Season, Bisu confirmed that he will not continue his career as a progamer. It is truly unfortunate, but this has been somewhat expected for a while now.

When Bisu did not attend the recent progamer ethics education seminars or general events, fans have been worrying about a possible retirement. They all knew that Bisu's career was on a downhill ever since the transition from StarCraft BroodWar to StarCraft 2. Again, Bisu was nowhere to be found in the most recent SKT1 volunteer activity. No longer a rumour, Bisu has indeed retired.

To the point, what are his reasons for retirement? The first thing to come to mind is the salary negotiation. As a top star/ace who enjoyed 6-figure (in dollars) salaries before, he would have a tough time dealing with his massively deflated value. It is only natural for any player to consider retirement if he cannot handle such a downfall. However, it was confirmed with SKT1 management that all player salary/contract negotiations and renewals are typically completed by the end of September, and that they have not started the negotiations with any of their players. In other words, Bisu announced his retirement prior to any salary/contract negotiations.

If money is not the problem, then we can turn to other common themes around the retirement of old boys' of the scene: declining motivations and military service. In fact, Bisu's teammate Best announced his retirement in July, saying that "it's hard to play like before" and also acknowledging the military service obligation. Bisu's situation is not too far from Best's, which brings some understanding to his retirement reasons. Ever since the switch to SC2, Bisu has mentioned in several interviews that "motivations are hard to come by."

In the midst of the hardship, we also must acknowledge that the trademark game of Korean eSports is now League of Legends. Even without drawing comparisons, it's not hard to see that the popularity of SC2 has declined severely. After the complete transition, the stats from SK Planet SC2PL 12-13 season show a grim picture. The number of live attendees are embarrassingly low, especially for weekday matches scheduled in the Shin-do-rim center. There are supposedly a decent number of viewers online, but it doesn't even come close for the star players who enjoyed immense success and recognition from SC1. To be blunt, there is no way that another PL finals can be held in Gwang-ahn-ri with SC2.

An insider from SKT1 confirmed that "the steep decline in the number of fans had a negative effect on the motivation of players, including Bisu." He added that "regrettably, at the current state, it will become even harder for the players who still remember the glorious past to continue their progaming careers."


ah.... sc2 is having frequent cardiac arrest in korea...
will not be surprised if gom will be the sole sc2 haven in korea on 2014...
and perhaps blizzard-sponsored gom-wcs-korea serves as respirator...
then... eu will be the new sc2 mecha...

if wcs korea completely dies... so is the international scene... one by one...
best of luck to sc2...

got to practice/watch lol now....
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k3n705
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada134 Posts
September 10 2013 00:12 GMT
#805
Holy mother..
OminouS
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1343 Posts
September 10 2013 00:15 GMT
#806
Thank you for MSL finals vs Stork, 2-2, Loki II, best game ever. Thank you for all the joy you've given me.
On the 6th day JF made Reavers and on the 7th day JF put his opponent to rest
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12043 Posts
September 10 2013 00:17 GMT
#807
why sc2 was possible in the first place.


I seriously hate to tell you this but I think sc2 still would have happened even if the whole esports thing didnt exist.
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
Moka
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada942 Posts
September 10 2013 00:18 GMT
#808
Nooooooooooooooo, Bisu
ヾ(@⌒_⌒@)ノ
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-10 00:21:33
September 10 2013 00:21 GMT
#809
Sigh. FUCKKKKKK. Dragons...
SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
September 10 2013 00:22 GMT
#810
Shitttttt. This is horrible.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
September 10 2013 00:33 GMT
#811
Down sizing will obviously make people like Bisu changes their mind about the game.
We won't get OSL finals with over 100.000 people attending on site. Doesn't mean we can't enjoy ourselves.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
September 10 2013 00:42 GMT
#812
On September 10 2013 09:33 Noocta wrote:
Down sizing will obviously make people like Bisu changes their mind about the game.
We won't get OSL finals with over 100.000 people attending on site. Doesn't mean we can't enjoy ourselves.


Apparently SKT's salary negotiation period still haven't ended yet. So it is nigh 100% possible that Bisu arbitrarily quit the game and not due to team restructuring.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3302 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-10 00:46:50
September 10 2013 00:45 GMT
#813
On September 10 2013 09:42 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2013 09:33 Noocta wrote:
Down sizing will obviously make people like Bisu changes their mind about the game.
We won't get OSL finals with over 100.000 people attending on site. Doesn't mean we can't enjoy ourselves.


Apparently SKT's salary negotiation period still haven't ended yet. So it is nigh 100% possible that Bisu arbitrarily quit the game and not due to team restructuring.


Yes, he arbitrarily quit the game. One can pretty safely assume the same for the vast majority of retired BW-gone-SC2 pros.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19711258
T P Z sagi
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
September 10 2013 00:48 GMT
#814
On September 10 2013 09:42 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2013 09:33 Noocta wrote:
Down sizing will obviously make people like Bisu changes their mind about the game.
We won't get OSL finals with over 100.000 people attending on site. Doesn't mean we can't enjoy ourselves.


Apparently SKT's salary negotiation period still haven't ended yet. So it is nigh 100% possible that Bisu arbitrarily quit the game and not due to team restructuring.


SKT is so deep with protoss that there was virtually no chance Bisu was going to play. I think he may have realized this and I have to think it slightly factored in to his decision making.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
September 10 2013 00:50 GMT
#815
On September 10 2013 09:48 Adreme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2013 09:42 Xiphos wrote:
On September 10 2013 09:33 Noocta wrote:
Down sizing will obviously make people like Bisu changes their mind about the game.
We won't get OSL finals with over 100.000 people attending on site. Doesn't mean we can't enjoy ourselves.


Apparently SKT's salary negotiation period still haven't ended yet. So it is nigh 100% possible that Bisu arbitrarily quit the game and not due to team restructuring.


SKT is so deep with protoss that there was virtually no chance Bisu was going to play. I think he may have realized this and I have to think it slightly factored in to his decision making.


According to JangBi on stream was saying that Bisu is playing well during practice. Whether or not that's a legit fact or not, this is the only source we have so far.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
September 10 2013 00:57 GMT
#816
Shame to see him go, but the things that made him great as protoss in BW, just isn't possible with the sc2 protoss design. Gonna go watch some old PvZ voids.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3302 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-10 01:07:09
September 10 2013 01:06 GMT
#817
On September 10 2013 09:50 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2013 09:48 Adreme wrote:
On September 10 2013 09:42 Xiphos wrote:
On September 10 2013 09:33 Noocta wrote:
Down sizing will obviously make people like Bisu changes their mind about the game.
We won't get OSL finals with over 100.000 people attending on site. Doesn't mean we can't enjoy ourselves.


Apparently SKT's salary negotiation period still haven't ended yet. So it is nigh 100% possible that Bisu arbitrarily quit the game and not due to team restructuring.


SKT is so deep with protoss that there was virtually no chance Bisu was going to play. I think he may have realized this and I have to think it slightly factored in to his decision making.


According to JangBi on stream was saying that Bisu is playing well during practice. Whether or not that's a legit fact or not, this is the only source we have so far.


Doing well and winning is one thing. Enjoying the game is another. Bisu doesn't deserve to be tortured by playing SC2.
T P Z sagi
CrazyHunter
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
United States83 Posts
September 10 2013 01:41 GMT
#818
Nooooo BisuDagger! You will be missed, come back for LOTV PLEASE!
The strong live. The weak die
DemigodcelpH
Profile Joined August 2011
1138 Posts
September 10 2013 01:45 GMT
#819
SC2 killing Bisu. SC2 killing eSports.
JeanLuc
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada377 Posts
September 10 2013 02:03 GMT
#820
a long, long time ago, if I can still remember how that broodwar used to make me smile
and I knew if I had my chance, I could make those dragoons dance

but something touched me deep inside the day
the Bisu flied.
If you can't find it within yourself to stand up and tell the truth-- you don't deserve to wear that uniform
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