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Azelja
Profile Joined May 2011
Japan762 Posts
September 09 2013 21:55 GMT
#781
The only regret is that he didn't switch to Terran for SC2 :I

Good luck and have fun, handsome!
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-09 22:00:39
September 09 2013 22:00 GMT
#782
On September 10 2013 06:45 Xiphos wrote:
^Something else = going back to the BW magic.
If Bisu didn't want to learn a new game, he wouldn't have stuck around for such a long period of time.

There are a ton of different reasons possible. Hell, it might be a combination.
But hey, who am i to argue with people that can read minds of text.
Pholon
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands6142 Posts
September 09 2013 22:02 GMT
#783
What a sad way to go for the Revolutionist
Moderator@TLPholon // "I need a third hand to facepalm right now"
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10232 Posts
September 09 2013 22:23 GMT
#784
On September 10 2013 07:02 Pholon wrote:
What a sad way to go for the Revolutionist

How is this sad??? Sad for the SC2 community? Maybe. Sad for BW community? No. Sad for him? No - he is moving on with his IRL business.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
September 09 2013 22:23 GMT
#785
My reaction:
[image loading]

God dammit. Loved his Phoenix/Dark Templar play in Brood War so goddamn much. Looks like Stork's the last of the Protoss Dragon's left, right?

Really gonna miss him. Any chance of seeing him in Sospa cup, even with his military service?
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
September 09 2013 22:29 GMT
#786
.....ಥ_ಥ.....
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
age: 84 | location: california | sex: 잘함
YyapSsap
Profile Joined September 2010
New Zealand1511 Posts
September 09 2013 22:30 GMT
#787
On September 10 2013 06:49 FetusThrower wrote:
People don't realize that the main catalyst for this was likely the military service..

I wouldn't know for sure but that definitely seems to be the case. Oh well, iconic players will be remembered, esp. one of Bisu's caliber regarding Brood War.


Its not. Its more of the consequence of retiring more so then "being" the reason for retirement. A neutral excuse to quit your job i suppose. And i know this because im korean. Bisu could easily have postponed the call of duty til he was 28 to 30 (jangbi could have as well).
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-10 00:40:05
September 09 2013 22:30 GMT
#788
From the BW thread:

On September 10 2013 07:25 OpticalShot wrote:
Drop the speculation, here comes a translation!
(shit that rhymes)
*edit: ALSO THIS WAS MY 6K POST NOOOOO BISU YOU BETTER MAKE UP FOR IT


Source: Fomos
Article by Reporter Myung-Hoon Kang
Pictures not included because go click that link above and give the poor site some traffic.

The Reasons Behind the Retirement of Bisu, the 'Revolutionist'

Immediately following the retirement of Taek-Yong 'Revolutionist' Kim (Bisu) on the 9th, many have been speculating his reasons for doing so.

While on a break after the conclusion of SK Planet StarCraft 2 Proleague 12-13 Season, Bisu confirmed that he will not continue his career as a progamer. It is truly unfortunate, but this has been somewhat expected for a while now.

When Bisu did not attend the recent progamer ethics education seminars or general events, fans have been worrying about a possible retirement. They all knew that Bisu's career was on a downhill ever since the transition from StarCraft BroodWar to StarCraft 2. Again, Bisu was nowhere to be found in the most recent SKT1 volunteer activity. No longer a rumour, Bisu has indeed retired.

To the point, what are his reasons for retirement? The first thing to come to mind is the salary negotiation. As a top star/ace who enjoyed 6-figure (in dollars) salaries before, he would have a tough time dealing with his massively deflated value. It is only natural for any player to consider retirement if he cannot handle such a downfall. However, it was confirmed with SKT1 management that all player salary/contract negotiations and renewals are typically completed by the end of September, and that they have not started the negotiations with any of their players. In other words, Bisu announced his retirement prior to any salary/contract negotiations.

If money is not the problem, then we can turn to other common themes around the retirement of old boys' of the scene: declining motivations and military service. In fact, Bisu's teammate Best announced his retirement in July, saying that "it's hard to play like before" and also acknowledging the military service obligation. Bisu's situation is not too far from Best's, which brings some understanding to his retirement reasons. Ever since the switch to SC2, Bisu has mentioned in several interviews that "motivations are hard to come by."

In the midst of the hardship, we also must acknowledge that the trademark game of Korean eSports is now League of Legends. Even without drawing comparisons, it's not hard to see that the popularity of SC2 has declined severely. After the complete transition, the stats from SK Planet SC2PL 12-13 season show a grim picture. The number of live attendees is embarrassingly low, especially for weekday matches scheduled in the Shin-do-rim center. There are supposedly a decent number of viewers online, but it doesn't even come close for the star players who enjoyed immense success and recognition from SC1. To be blunt, there is no way that another PL finals can be held in Gwang-ahn-ri with SC2.

An insider from SKT1 confirmed that "the steep decline in the number of fans had a negative effect on the motivation of players, including Bisu." He added that "regrettably, at the current state, it will become even harder for the players who still remember the glorious past to continue their progaming careers."
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10236 Posts
September 09 2013 22:30 GMT
#789
another legend falls, another saddened defeat.

thanks for the games bisu. we love you <3
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YyapSsap
Profile Joined September 2010
New Zealand1511 Posts
September 09 2013 22:39 GMT
#790
And is plansix a part of blizzards damage control team? Cant believe hes spewing all sorts of *** in a retirement thread of a player who was one of the biggest contributors to the starcraft scene and is probably one of the reasons why sc2 was possible in the first place. A player who single handily brought back the protoss back into equation from the dark ages. He changed the fundamentals of how protoss should be played forever. So please stop and give bisu and his fans some respect.
riyanme
Profile Joined September 2010
Philippines940 Posts
September 09 2013 22:43 GMT
#791
On September 09 2013 20:13 nimdil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2013 19:38 Jealous wrote:
I am so fucking pumped with hopes of stream and SOSPA @______@; YESSSSS

Yea, trucks of money coming to Sonic in 3, 2, 1, ...


only to be derailed by blizzard...
if bw is ressurected, im sure blizzard shanenigans...
-
YyapSsap
Profile Joined September 2010
New Zealand1511 Posts
September 09 2013 22:46 GMT
#792
Its a big blow to the korean starcraft scene where the sad fact is the foreign scene will collapse if the korean scene starts to fall apart. The rumours of proleague being its last further adds to that particular speculation.. ah its a sad day to be a sc fan.
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-09 22:48:13
September 09 2013 22:47 GMT
#793
time for sea to go down! (unless bisu doesn't play sospa in which case i will cry)
can i get my estro logo back pls
YyapSsap
Profile Joined September 2010
New Zealand1511 Posts
September 09 2013 22:49 GMT
#794
Sospa looks better by the day though haha just need a big name terran.... :D
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9566 Posts
September 09 2013 22:51 GMT
#795
Farewell, I hope you'll find another passion in life soon! Thanks for the memories. BW <3 4ever :'(
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/4JknvV
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
September 09 2013 22:52 GMT
#796
i kinda do hope sc2 does go into a spiral of shit just so it can be revived properly for lotv.

i really see a problem with ladder warriors can take on fulltime progamers. its like a street baller doing good in the NBA...very unlikely and not so simple.

its like blizzard said, "hey, dont matter if you're weak-skinny or fat, 5'2" tall, as long as you practice, ANYONE can be a professional NBA player!!"
age: 84 | location: california | sex: 잘함
rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
September 09 2013 22:54 GMT
#797
On September 10 2013 07:52 jinorazi wrote:
i kinda do hope sc2 does go into a spiral of shit just so it can be revived properly for lotv.

i really see a problem with ladder warriors can take on fulltime progamers. its like a street baller doing good in the NBA...very unlikely and not so simple.

its like blizzard said, "hey, dont matter if you're weak-skinny or fat, 5'2" tall, as long as you practice, ANYONE can be a professional NBA player!!"

let's be real, there would be no "revival", people were expecting that from hots too
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
September 09 2013 22:54 GMT
#798
As much as I was an antifan; its always sad to see one go. 3/3/7 the fall and rise and the revolution
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33487 Posts
September 09 2013 22:54 GMT
#799
On September 10 2013 07:30 Xiphos wrote:
From the BW thread:

Show nested quote +
On September 10 2013 07:25 OpticalShot wrote:
Drop the speculation, here comes a translation!
(shit that rhymes)
*edit: ALSO THIS WAS MY 6K POST NOOOOO BISU YOU BETTER MAKE UP FOR IT


Source: Fomos
Article by Reporter Myung-Hoon Kang
Pictures not included because go click that link above and give the poor site some traffic.

The Reasons Behind the Retirement of Bisu, the 'Revolutionist'

Immediately following the retirement of Taek-Yong 'Revolutionist' Kim (Bisu) on the 9th, many have been speculating his reasons for doing so.

While on a break after the conclusion of SK Planet StarCraft 2 Proleague 12-13 Season, Bisu confirmed that he will not continue his career as a progamer. It is truly unfortunate, but this has been somewhat expected for a while now.

When Bisu did not attend the recent progamer ethics education seminars or general events, fans have been worrying about a possible retirement. They all knew that Bisu's career was on a downhill ever since the transition from StarCraft BroodWar to StarCraft 2. Again, Bisu was nowhere to be found in the most recent SKT1 volunteer activity. No longer a rumour, Bisu has indeed retired.

To the point, what are his reasons for retirement? The first thing to come to mind is the salary negotiation. As a top star/ace who enjoyed 6-figure (in dollars) salaries before, he would have a tough time dealing with his massively deflated value. It is only natural for any player to consider retirement if he cannot handle such a downfall. However, it was confirmed with SKT1 management that all player salary/contract negotiations and renewals are typically completed by the end of September, and that they have not started the negotiations with any of their players. In other words, Bisu announced his retirement prior to any salary/contract negotiations.

If money is not the problem, then we can turn to other common themes around the retirement of old boys' of the scene: declining motivations and military service. In fact, Bisu's teammate Best announced his retirement in July, saying that "it's hard to play like before" and also acknowledging the military service obligation. Bisu's situation is not too far from Best's, which brings some understanding to his retirement reasons. Ever since the switch to SC2, Bisu has mentioned in several interviews that "motivations are hard to come by."

In the midst of the hardship, we also must acknowledge that the trademark game of Korean eSports is now League of Legends. Even without drawing comparisons, it's not hard to see that the popularity of SC2 has declined severely. After the complete transition, the stats from SK Planet SC2PL 12-13 season show a grim picture. The number of live attendees are embarrassingly low, especially for weekday matches scheduled in the Shin-do-rim center. There are supposedly a decent number of viewers online, but it doesn't even come close for the star players who enjoyed immense success and recognition from SC1. To be blunt, there is no way that another PL finals can be held in Gwang-ahn-ri with SC2.

An insider from SKT1 confirmed that "the steep decline in the number of fans had a negative effect on the motivation of players, including Bisu." He added that "regrettably, at the current state, it will become even harder for the players who still remember the glorious past to continue their progaming careers."


i don't find fault with the reasoning, but it's still written in such a blatant sc2 hit-piece style typical of fomos and dailyesports
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Thallis
Profile Joined September 2010
United States314 Posts
September 09 2013 23:00 GMT
#800
On September 10 2013 07:52 jinorazi wrote:
i kinda do hope sc2 does go into a spiral of shit just so it can be revived properly for lotv.

i really see a problem with ladder warriors can take on fulltime progamers. its like a street baller doing good in the NBA...very unlikely and not so simple.

its like blizzard said, "hey, dont matter if you're weak-skinny or fat, 5'2" tall, as long as you practice, ANYONE can be a professional NBA player!!"


When ladder is the best practice, ladder warriors get the practice to improve to get on the level of progamers.
/)*(\
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