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aslejoh
Norway96 Posts
Personally I find it a bit strange, considering he did get alot of exposure at the Red Bull training grounds back in July where he placed 2nd, loosing 2-4 to Golden in the finals. Best of luck in the future to Sound! Edit; I asked Golden if he could say anything about why Sound retired, School? Work? Lost motivation? Military? Kicked from the team? He replied "I don't know because I were home when he retired" 
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Cokefreak
Finland8095 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
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SystemXN
China105 Posts
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A Wild Sosd
Australia421 Posts
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mYiKane
Canada1772 Posts
that makes me sad. He was a really nice and funny guy in person along with being an amazing terran. | ||
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glzElectromaster
Japan2474 Posts
Good luck in the future, Sound. | ||
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KaiserKieran
United States615 Posts
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
just when imo things started to pick up for himGl in life Sound! | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
He seemed like he had potential too. | ||
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FakeDouble
Australia676 Posts
Sorry for pun, had to be done. Sad to see any player leave | ||
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shabby
Norway6402 Posts
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
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Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
I remember his good run that surprised most people at HSC4 (even though the finals was a stomp, but MC was a bit scarier back then) Made me a fan back then !  | ||
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StarMoon
Canada682 Posts
Sucks to see him go. | ||
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AmuseD
Netherlands133 Posts
I saw his twitter and he didn't post something for over a month. I hope we can get some statement or something about what he wants to do? | ||
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Badfatpanda
United States9719 Posts
He was one of my favorite terrans. His playstyle was very fun to watch. Best of luck though! | ||
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ichnaschekot
380 Posts
He wore the coolest glasses | ||
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NeThZOR
South Africa7387 Posts
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aka_star
United Kingdom1546 Posts
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DiMano
Korea (South)2066 Posts
On August 27 2013 20:13 aka_star wrote: We're gonna run out of blood at this rate, do we have enough fresh people coming in to keep the scene alive? u can check here http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/User:DiMano | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
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Jer99
Canada8157 Posts
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SamuelGreen
Sweden292 Posts
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Lazzi
Switzerland1923 Posts
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Wintex
Norway16838 Posts
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BEARDiaguz
Australia2362 Posts
On August 27 2013 20:13 aka_star wrote: We're gonna run out of blood at this rate, do we have enough fresh people coming in to keep the scene alive? No we're not. For everyone who retires, dozens stand ready to take their place. We just don't know them yet. | ||
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Sumahi
Guam5609 Posts
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JacobShock
Denmark2485 Posts
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32740 Posts
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shin_toss
Philippines2589 Posts
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negativedge
4279 Posts
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Weavel
Finland9221 Posts
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Aunvilgod
2653 Posts
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Keeemy
Finland7855 Posts
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AmuseD
Netherlands133 Posts
And why I use this as an arguement is that most pro gamers who got a team related twitter account stop posting on there after either leaving or retiring. In this case retirement | ||
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nighcol
298 Posts
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vult
United States9400 Posts
Ugh, just when I thought his career would have a resurgence with the RBTG, but I guess I was wrong... Good luck to Sound, the most hipster of terrans. | ||
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ErrantKnight
Switzerland186 Posts
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On August 27 2013 20:13 aka_star wrote: We're gonna run out of blood at this rate, do we have enough fresh people coming in to keep the scene alive? It was only about a year ago that SC2 saw a huge influx of talent with the KeSPA switch. There are more than enough progamers. | ||
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VisonKai
United States2203 Posts
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c0ldfusion
United States8293 Posts
He was gaining momentum and he was on a great team. | ||
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magbar
1 Post
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Qualitytime
Sweden5 Posts
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75
Germany4057 Posts
i really liked him | ||
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monkh
United Kingdom568 Posts
On August 27 2013 20:13 aka_star wrote: We're gonna run out of blood at this rate, do we have enough fresh people coming in to keep the scene alive? too many semi pro's in scene atm | ||
GTR
51456 Posts
On August 27 2013 21:16 AmuseD wrote: Most logical would be that he would go to school. He is too young to join the military service. And looking at the date he stopped posting stuff on his twitter makes it look really obvious that he wants to return to studies. And why I use this as an arguement is that most pro gamers who got a team related twitter account stop posting on there after either leaving or retiring. In this case retirement too young for military service? he is 19, that's like the perfect age in korean culture to go. | ||
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IMPOSEIDON
Malaysia33 Posts
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shid0x
Korea (South)5014 Posts
(((((Fucking why Sound was soo cool and skilled ! He streamed only a few times but oh boy those were epic ! Kinda saw it coming after his retirement of WCS NA where he qualified easy. That's a fucking shame,i'll miss him. | ||
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DiMano
Korea (South)2066 Posts
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On August 27 2013 22:10 DiMano wrote: Mb he wants to finish his military service and then to come back with release of LotV Do you know what happened to STX Last? Seems like he fell off the radar. | ||
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Thalandros
Netherlands1151 Posts
Oh well, good luck Sounds, and even though it's not my business I'd still like to know what happened to him | ||
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aEroo
Norway15 Posts
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IcookTacos
Sweden295 Posts
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AmuseD
Netherlands133 Posts
On August 27 2013 21:58 GTR wrote: too young for military service? he is 19, that's like the perfect age in korean culture to go. edit : Okay I saw the reason. nvm | ||
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tomastaz
United States976 Posts
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GTR
51456 Posts
On August 27 2013 22:29 AmuseD wrote: I thought you had to be minimal 20 to join the military? you can go as early as 18 (finish high school) | ||
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DiMano
Korea (South)2066 Posts
On August 27 2013 22:12 TheDwf wrote: Do you know what happened to STX Last? Seems like he fell off the radar. Last had health issues (problems with wrists if i remember correctly). He should be ok now. | ||
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LockeTazeline
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DarkSpectre
121 Posts
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Nuclease
United States1049 Posts
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Waxangel
United States33392 Posts
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wildstyle1337
Poland514 Posts
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Kosak
Czech Republic193 Posts
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docvoc
United States5491 Posts
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ThePrince
Peru331 Posts
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GTxCiviL
United States83 Posts
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SHOOG
United States1639 Posts
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babylon
8765 Posts
Whatever the case, best of luck to him. Will miss seeing his solid Terran play. ;( | ||
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sunless
62 Posts
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Zerg.Zilla
Hungary5029 Posts
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Yakikorosu
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On August 27 2013 23:31 wildstyle1337 wrote: Total Earnings: $5,750 Putting it like that downplays the fact that he placed 2nd at http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/HomeStory_Cup/4 and at http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Red_Bull_Training_Grounds . He was most definitely a good player, albeit not Code S level. :/ Also: On August 27 2013 23:50 babylon wrote: Someone on Reddit says it is a family issue. Whatever the case, best of luck to him. Will miss seeing his solid Terran play. ;( Sad. | ||
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Holdenintherye
Canada1441 Posts
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KristofferAG
Norway25712 Posts
GG Sound. Sad to see him go so soon, quite enjoyed watching him play. | ||
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Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
Right.... It's like we have only 20 progamer in the world... | ||
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Darrkhan
Finland1236 Posts
On August 28 2013 00:17 MasterOfPuppets wrote: Putting it like that downplays the fact that he placed 2nd at http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/HomeStory_Cup/4 and at http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Red_Bull_Training_Grounds . He was most definitely a good player, albeit not Code S level. :/ Also: Sad. Even though he placed 2nd couple times it is really valid reason to quit professional gaming. These games takes so much free time of their life and if you can't make money from it, well some might find it useless :/ Especially if something happen in his family so naturally he don't want to spend tens of hours playing video game. Sad tho, really liked this guy! Good luck Sound | ||
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FromtheAbysS
32 Posts
I knew him at the MLG when he made a fabulous run to the Round 10 of the LB, showing an impressive level. Seemed to be a funny little guy with his glasses and his hat on backwards. He became one of my favorite Terran since this event. On August 27 2013 19:48 Fragile51 wrote: I'm guessing he's got some personal things going on in his life? His results were just starting to pick up so it's kinda weird that he retired like this right when he was making money :/ Think you right. He forfeited the bracket stage of WCS America Chalenger league one month ago due to personnal reasons, but he seemed to have been drafted for the group stage. He had to play wednesday. | ||
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Valikyr
Sweden2653 Posts
On August 27 2013 20:13 aka_star wrote: We're gonna run out of blood at this rate, do we have enough fresh people coming in to keep the scene alive? SC2 has too many pros and has had it since the beginning. It's sad to see people retire but the scene could never support so many players. | ||
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FromtheAbysS
32 Posts
On August 27 2013 23:50 babylon wrote: Someone on Reddit says it is a family issue. I hope not :/ GL HF Bae ! | ||
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Shinta)
United States1716 Posts
On August 27 2013 20:13 aka_star wrote: We're gonna run out of blood at this rate, do we have enough fresh people coming in to keep the scene alive? We have so many people its ridiculous.... | ||
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theatreofwar
Canada60 Posts
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
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Undead1993
Germany17651 Posts
i liked his playstyle t.t meh. gl in the future though! btw someone able to tell me if he said what he wanted to do now? | ||
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Hermanoid
Sweden213 Posts
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Guileful
Kazakhstan137 Posts
On August 27 2013 19:26 aslejoh wrote: Golden just confirmed that he have indeed retired from professional SC2 on his stream. Personally I find it a bit strange, considering he did get alot of exposure at the Red Bull training grounds back in July where he placed 2nd, loosing 2-4 to Golden in the finals. Best of luck in the future to Sound! Edit; I asked Golden if he could say anything about why Sound retired, School? Work? Lost motivation? Military? Kicked from the team? He replied "I don't know because I were home when he retired" So its Sound or Golden Oo | ||
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Advantageous
China1350 Posts
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
On August 27 2013 23:50 babylon wrote: Someone on Reddit says it is a family issue. Family issues probably went like this. Parents - You should quit pro gaming, you're not really earning enough to make it worth it. Sound - But, I'm in WCS AM challenger at the moment with a chance to go to premier! Parents - Career earnings - $5,750 Sound - Ok mom and dad, you're right. | ||
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aslejoh
Norway96 Posts
On August 28 2013 01:58 Hermanoid wrote: The top line of the op is confusing at the moment. Should obviously be that Golden confirmed on his stream that Sound is retiring. Change "he" to "Sound" please, at the moment the sentance is saying that Golden is retiring. In my defense.. The text were changed by Waxangel(I guess) since my English is pretty bad. I had written Sound there, but I guess he changed it to the better | ||
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TAMinator
Australia2706 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On August 28 2013 03:28 TAMinator wrote: Wait, why is Golden retiring? I just read an announcement that he's playing in Redbull Battle Grounds Sound is retiring, Golden simply said it on stream. Make no confusion. | ||
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TAMinator
Australia2706 Posts
On August 28 2013 03:30 lolfail9001 wrote: Sound is retiring, Golden simply said it on stream. Make no confusion. Oh, I guess the thread starter had some poor choice of words | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On August 28 2013 03:06 Canucklehead wrote: Family issues probably went like this. Parents - You should quit pro gaming, you're not really earning enough to make it worth it. Sound - But, I'm in WCS AM challenger at the moment with a chance to go to premier! Parents - Career earnings - $5,750 Sound - Ok mom and dad, you're right. It hurts how narrow-minded posts like these are... | ||
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Penguinator
United States837 Posts
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
Hopefully the family issue isn't too bad, sucks to have your life derailed because of family health emergency or financial issues - but you gotta do what you gotta do. | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On August 28 2013 03:55 Antisocialmunky wrote: Never heard of him. Maybe I'm just deaf to team leagues. :\ Hopefully the family issue isn't too bad, sucks to have your life derailed because of family health emergency or financial issues - but you gotta do what you gotta do. Home Story Cup is not a team league though. :S EDIT: Actually it looks like the OP didn't even include that result... what a shame. Almost as much of a shame as people forgetting about Sound. :/ | ||
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danbel1005
United States1319 Posts
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lastshadow
United States1372 Posts
On August 28 2013 03:34 MasterOfPuppets wrote: It hurts how narrow-minded posts like these are... You're right, in Korea it's actually a lot worse. More along the lines of "I will disown you and/or beat you upon sight if you return home" happened to two people in the ProS house, so they never went home. One is currently in the army, the other sleeps around friends homes avoiding going home as he never became a pro-gamer. You have no idea how badly parents view pro-gamers who are not big before telling their parents. As usually kids keep it a secret until they do something big and/or get invited to a pro-team. Those who tell their parents they're doing it before hand usually are under strict time-limits or face serious neglect. | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On August 28 2013 04:14 lastshadow wrote: You're right, in Korea it's actually a lot worse. More along the lines of "I will disown you and/or beat you upon sight if you return home" happened to two people in the ProS house, so they never went home. One is currently in the army, the other sleeps around friends homes avoiding going home as he never became a pro-gamer. You have no idea how badly parents view pro-gamers who are not big before telling their parents. As usually kids keep it a secret until they do something big and/or get invited to a pro-team. Those who tell their parents they're doing it before hand usually are under strict time-limits or face serious neglect. I see where you're coming from but I don't see how that relates to Sound who is (or was, I guess) on one of the bigger and more stable Korean pro teams, in Star Tale. Not to mention he's had better results than most Kespa and eSF B-teamers. So yeah it's a bit presumptuous to claim that's what "family issues" means in this case. | ||
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babylon
8765 Posts
On August 28 2013 03:06 Canucklehead wrote: Family issues probably went like this. Parents - You should quit pro gaming, you're not really earning enough to make it worth it. Sound - But, I'm in WCS AM challenger at the moment with a chance to go to premier! Parents - Career earnings - $5,750 Sound - Ok mom and dad, you're right. Well, I should hope it is this, considering it could be so much worse (e.g. Family illness/death). | ||
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asdfOu
United States2089 Posts
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goofyballer
United States136 Posts
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MrMotionPicture
United States4327 Posts
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Conut
Canada1026 Posts
On August 28 2013 03:34 MasterOfPuppets wrote: It hurts how narrow-minded posts like these are... How is that narrow minded? That seems like a logical family conversation, family can put huge pressure on each other. | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On August 28 2013 05:26 Conut wrote: How is that narrow minded? That seems like a logical family conversation, family can put huge pressure on each other. Because, like I pointed out, Sound is one of the more successful B-teamers across both eSF and Kespa in terms of tangible results. He's proven himself multiple times to be a talented player, and with Red Bull looking to get more involved in SC2, that would only brighten his prospects. Besides, if he really wasn't earning enough from SC2, he could just own online tournaments like other Korean players did before their eventual breakout/resurgence (see: HyuN, Revival, San, Creator etc) | ||
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MrMercuG
Netherlands2389 Posts
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NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
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Greendotz
United Kingdom2053 Posts
On August 27 2013 19:29 SystemXN wrote: Sad. His all-kill in GSTL really made me think he would do better in HotS. To be fair this season it was kind of embarrassing if you didn't all-kill NSH. I was wondering why his name was scored through in the WCS AM Challenger League groups (looked everywhere and couldn't find any info). Guess this explains it. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On August 28 2013 09:53 Greendotz wrote: To be fair this season it was kind of embarrassing if you didn't all-kill NSH. I was wondering why his name was scored through in the WCS AM Challenger League groups (looked everywhere and couldn't find any info). Guess this explains it. Axiom-Acer and Prime confirmed worst teams evah :D Also, groups are auto-formed should you lose in bracket stage, so since Sound forfeit it there, he was auto-placed in group. Like Idra. | ||
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Glenn313
United States475 Posts
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geokilla
Canada8240 Posts
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Conut
Canada1026 Posts
On August 28 2013 05:53 MasterOfPuppets wrote: Because, like I pointed out, Sound is one of the more successful B-teamers across both eSF and Kespa in terms of tangible results. He's proven himself multiple times to be a talented player, and with Red Bull looking to get more involved in SC2, that would only brighten his prospects. Besides, if he really wasn't earning enough from SC2, he could just own online tournaments like other Korean players did before their eventual breakout/resurgence (see: HyuN, Revival, San, Creator etc) thats not what he was saying though, you seemed to be the narrow minded one, he was just talking about family. Its hard to be doing something that you love when the people you love tell you not to. Maybe his parents just felt that he needed to continue education, i would say its the right time for it considering the summer is ending. (Idk if korean schools are the same time as ours) It just seems like he made a valid point saying that his parents might have put pressure on him. | ||
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shid0x
Korea (South)5014 Posts
http://imgur.com/1RRtaFS We had so much fun with sound on his stream this day,he was really close with his viewers,reading everything and answering everyone. | ||
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ElhayM
Canada134 Posts
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tomastaz
United States976 Posts
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jackslater
Russian Federation604 Posts
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On August 28 2013 10:29 Conut wrote: thats not what he was saying though, you seemed to be the narrow minded one, he was just talking about family. Its hard to be doing something that you love when the people you love tell you not to. Maybe his parents just felt that he needed to continue education, i would say its the right time for it considering the summer is ending. (Idk if korean schools are the same time as ours) It just seems like he made a valid point saying that his parents might have put pressure on him. You're right, that is a valid point. However going "durr he only won $6k no wonder he retired" is an absurdly stupid claim. And I have reason to believe it's the latter. | ||
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enVias
Australia41 Posts
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iGn1t3
Hong Kong73 Posts
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MrMercuG
Netherlands2389 Posts
On August 28 2013 04:20 MasterOfPuppets wrote: I see where you're coming from but I don't see how that relates to Sound who is (or was, I guess) on one of the bigger and more stable Korean pro teams, in Star Tale. Not to mention he's had better results than most Kespa and eSF B-teamers. So yeah it's a bit presumptuous to claim that's what "family issues" means in this case. I believe I heard some time ago that StarTale only payed two people salaries Bomber, and July at the time... The korean scene most of the time does not pay their players salaries so it's understandable that they can't help and support their parents. | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On August 28 2013 19:33 MrMercuG wrote: I believe I heard some time ago that StarTale only payed two people salaries Bomber, and July at the time... The korean scene most of the time does not pay their players salaries so it's understandable that they can't help and support their parents. Surely that was before the Red Bull sponsorship and Life going ham on everybody. Speaking of Red Bull, they've done Star Tale quite a bit of good, having their heavy-hitters (Bomber, PartinG and at the time Squirtle) at their battle grounds event and Sound and Golden at the training grounds. | ||
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
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gneGne
Netherlands697 Posts
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CMP
Germany7 Posts
He was just so nice and I really loved his style (cap & glasses :D ) However GL in your future! <3 | ||
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fuzzylogic44
Canada2633 Posts
On August 27 2013 20:13 aka_star wrote: We're gonna run out of blood at this rate, do we have enough fresh people coming in to keep the scene alive? This comment is crazy. There are literally hundreds of pro SC2 players, about 5x as many as the scene can actually support. We don't need more players to support the scene, we need a bigger scene to support the players. And if the scene stays at this size, we need to lose players to keep it sustainable. | ||
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Vete
Germany190 Posts
On August 29 2013 15:40 fuzzylogic44 wrote: This comment is crazy. There are literally hundreds of pro SC2 players, about 5x as many as the scene can actually support. We don't need more players to support the scene, we need a bigger scene to support the players. And if the scene stays at this size, we need to lose players to keep it sustainable. I think we need an amateur/mid tier scene to keep this kind of players especially in SK. | ||
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