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VArsovskiSC
Macedonia563 Posts
Nevertheless - I like the change a lot.. ofc the problem is if this gets a huge side-effect in ZvP for Zerg being able to dart in, snipe Obs and dart-out, or even better - make DTs practically useless late-game.. Still think that if anything - Widow-Mine needs to go under some changes TBH though.. Both for the sake of ZvT, as well as TvP And ofcourse: 3.75 is the movement speed of Oracle.. It's fast, but not Super-fast, not like the Hellion or Phoenix or Speedling for example.. | ||
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tili
United States1332 Posts
 It's only an upgrade, and it WILL help against 4M, because it's much easier to run away from stimmed marines/jump out of WM range. As they stated earlier, the increased survivability of overseers means zergs aren't constantly re-morphing them as they are inevitably sniped when the faster muta flock veers away  | ||
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
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jonich0n
United States1982 Posts
The most interesting thing for me is how this will affect ZvP... scouting potential definitely increases, early game, and later. Since overseers will be easier to keep alive Zerg will retain them more, spend a few less resources, and be able to pick off observers easier... | ||
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negativedge
4279 Posts
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IcED Bk
Canada245 Posts
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jonich0n
United States1982 Posts
On August 27 2013 08:35 IcED Bk wrote: I don't know about this, zerg DOES NOT need the scouting ability. Protoss now is going to have a hard time trying to kill off scouts. definitely true but doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be game-breaking or anything at all. time to adapt and see how things play out. yeah it's also interesting that this should help a decent bit against DT harass. | ||
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contv
35 Posts
On August 27 2013 08:35 IcED Bk wrote: I don't know about this, zerg DOES NOT need the scouting ability. Protoss now is going to have a hard time trying to kill off scouts. Just...no. Zerg rarely researches overlord speed against protoss let alone early enough to impact the scouting of Protoss' first tech choice. | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On August 27 2013 08:35 IcED Bk wrote: I don't know about this, zerg DOES NOT need the scouting ability. Protoss now is going to have a hard time trying to kill off scouts. Not really. It isn't like the Zerg is going to quickly tech to lair and get the speed upgrade for the quicker scouting early on (when it matters most) and in the later stages Protoss usually has phoenixes or blink stalkers which can easily kill these. Hell, even if the zerg did rush these, a lot of protoss players have caught on to the strength of stargate tech in HotS so they'd still have a few phoenixes out in time. | ||
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igay
Australia1178 Posts
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MrSusan
United Kingdom20 Posts
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BoZiffer
United States1841 Posts
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Weavel
Finland9221 Posts
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nixi
Sweden39 Posts
OT. I'm glad they didn't change the widowmines. As a zerg I think it's fun to micro against them and I like (to a certain degree) to be punished for sloppy micro. I wish swarmhost was more effective against terran bio so I could clean up big minefields with locusts though. | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
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Existor
Russian Federation4295 Posts
On August 27 2013 07:01 blade55555 wrote: This change won't change zvt at all lol. Imo a good one would be allowing research of 3/3 after starting infestation pit. I don't see how it would be imbalanced at all considering protoss and terran only have to make 1 more building to start 2/2 and 3/3 (twilight for toss, armory for terran). Different races are different. Terrans need one building (Armory 150/100/65s) for 2/2 and 3/3 upgrades, Protoss is similar - 150/100/50. Zergs need one "building" too for 3/3 upgrades - Hive for 250/150/100s, which also allows other things too, like broods and ultras. | ||
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Existor
Russian Federation4295 Posts
On August 27 2013 08:35 IcED Bk wrote: I don't know about this, zerg DOES NOT need the scouting ability. Protoss now is going to have a hard time trying to kill off scouts. Protoss can scout Zergs easily with: • mammacore with giant vision radius • hallucinations, especially fast and for free aka Phoenix hallucination • observer • oracles when harassing • real phoenixes So 22% faster Overseer is ok | ||
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SigmaoctanusIV
United States3313 Posts
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nixi
Sweden39 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On August 27 2013 09:06 SigmaoctanusIV wrote: only crappy part is that overseers will have reign over Protoss bases Contaminating all my robos If only contaminate wasn't 125 energy a pop | ||
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