EPTYet another Random trick - Page 3
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Aveng3r
United States2411 Posts
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Rhaegal
United States678 Posts
Forced into sub optimal build vs someone who is going to play gimmicky/ weird because he doesn't understand the races. | ||
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AmericanUmlaut
Germany2594 Posts
On August 23 2013 15:24 slytown wrote: How did we not realize this till just now? Pretty cool. To be fair, this has come up many times in the past. It's certainly useful for random players to know, but it's not like this has never been noticed before. | ||
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HornyHerring
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
On August 23 2013 11:13 iPAndi wrote: What kind of advantage would this give? 5 more seconds? 10? I don't get why it's better to know before the game starts to when it actually starts. Just knowing if you should spam e, s or sd is good enough. | ||
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
On August 24 2013 06:02 Rhaegal wrote: I just leave vs random players. Forced into sub optimal build vs someone who is going to play gimmicky/ weird because he doesn't understand the races. shouldnt mechanics win you games, not builds? skill = build execution, mechanics =/= skill ??? | ||
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c0ldfusion
United States8293 Posts
On August 24 2013 06:01 Aveng3r wrote: this is earth shattering not sure if sarcastic.. | ||
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MarcoBrei
Brazil66 Posts
On August 24 2013 05:29 Ureth_RA wrote: I think anyone above bronze lvl knew this... Well, you think wrong... way wrong... | ||
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NubainMuscle
South Africa423 Posts
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NubainMuscle
South Africa423 Posts
On August 24 2013 06:09 jinorazi wrote: shouldnt mechanics win you games, not builds? skill = build execution, mechanics =/= skill ??? Some players (like me) are naturally slow so must rely more on strategy/build order/timing as opposed to mechanics, multitask, etc. | ||
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CamoPillbox
Czech Republic229 Posts
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Nerchio
Poland2633 Posts
On August 24 2013 06:02 Rhaegal wrote: I just leave vs random players. Forced into sub optimal build vs someone who is going to play gimmicky/ weird because he doesn't understand the races. Doesn't understand the races? Alright. | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
On August 24 2013 06:09 jinorazi wrote: shouldnt mechanics win you games, not builds? skill = build execution, mechanics =/= skill ??? He is a tripple A troll, tries to hate on everything but no depths to the hate. On topic really funny would have not realized this ever. Though I dice my race and so already in the mind set when searching a game. Not enough time for many games and alot of people derp against random and play bad. | ||
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Vanadiel
France961 Posts
On August 24 2013 06:09 jinorazi wrote: shouldnt mechanics win you games, not builds? skill = build execution, mechanics =/= skill ??? Well ladder doesn't mean anything to be honest, I just play on it to get better, so playing vs random is just meaningless since they start with an unfair advantage, I just either 1 base ling baneling or quit the game if they don't give their race. | ||
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Kleinmuuhg
Vanuatu4091 Posts
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On August 23 2013 11:13 iPAndi wrote: What kind of advantage would this give? 5 more seconds? 10? I don't get why it's better to know before the game starts to when it actually starts. If you use Brood War hotkeys, then you can be ready to press s or p at the beginning. :D | ||
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
On August 24 2013 08:03 Vanadiel wrote: Well ladder doesn't mean anything to be honest, I just play on it to get better, so playing vs random is just meaningless since they start with an unfair advantage, I just either 1 base ling baneling or quit the game if they don't give their race. but you get better by playing, improving mechanics. if you play against cheese, it improves your crisis management (which a lot of people lack imo, blaming on "cheese" and not your lack of crisis management). if being afraid of early cheese is the case then terran can proxy rax, toss can proxy gate, zerg can 6pool so you'd need to scout early vs all race regardless of random or not. i just find random hate fallacious. | ||
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Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
I asked for race, was told Zerg, proceeded to throw down a forge at my natural, went to scout, scouted his base last, and died to a 4gate. People are dicks. Perhaps having the race come up for the non random player in the loading screen would be useful. Or indeed, both players, since the point of random is to play with all races, not be unaware until the game starts, surely? | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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Lobotomist
United States1541 Posts
Also, are people seriously still complaining about opening blind against random? This has been going on for like, 15 years now. Deal with it. | ||
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z0rz
United States350 Posts
Yes, Random players cheese. So do Terrans. And Zergs. And Protosses. A lot of people cheese. Either adapt to your surroundings (e.g. learn/create a safe opening that you can use vs Random, learn how to defend cheese, etc.) or accept the fact that you have a poor attitude and will probably continue to lose in ways that you could easily prevent. On August 24 2013 09:05 Larkin wrote: To be fair not knowing the race is really annoying. You can't FFE against Zergs. Pretty much any build has to be altered and made safer until you know for sure. I asked for race, was told Zerg, proceeded to throw down a forge at my natural, went to scout, scouted his base last, and died to a 4gate. People are dicks. Perhaps having the race come up for the non random player in the loading screen would be useful. Or indeed, both players, since the point of random is to play with all races, not be unaware until the game starts, surely? So it's someone else's fault that you haven't developed a safe opening that works against all races? I understand it sucks to fall for the lie, but don't act like you aren't foolish for trusting someone in a game where the primary objective is to kill the other player. I'm not saying everyone out there is going to lie to you, but I shouldn't have to explain why you shouldn't base your strategy on an opponent's statement. | ||
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