Yet another Random trick

On August 23 2013 11:13 iPAndi wrote:
What kind of advantage would this give? 5 more seconds? 10? I don't get why it's better to know before the game starts to when it actually starts.

On August 23 2013 11:23 Valiver wrote:
Nice find, this would let me (all randoms) be ready faster to make that first worker. E for probes, S for scvs, S then D for drones. Easy half second faster first worker when you actually know which button to hit before the game starts.

On August 23 2013 11:36 The_Templar wrote:
sometimes it gives you something like "eventually your main base will run out of resources" or "expanding early is risky but is often worth it" :/

On August 23 2013 11:11 iyasq8 wrote:
blizzard plz remove random players @randomplayerskillingesport

On August 23 2013 11:21 skadumdums wrote:

Not sure why you're angry about it, if it doesn't apply to you then don't worry about it. Like I said before it helps to be in the mind state before the game starts.

On August 23 2013 13:40 MadJack wrote:


How is he angry ? hes just stating that he doesnt know how is it better to know what race you get 10 seconds before the game starts. Thats what forums are for.

As I see it, there is no real gain in this trick unless is you get protoss and put ur finger in the "E" key instead of the "S". There is plenty of time while your making your first 2 workers to decide what is that your gonna do. I also dont understand what you even mean by mind state... If you mean state of mind, how does picking any race changes your mood towards the game, if you pick zerg you feel more defensive but if u pick protoss you feel all inish or something like that ? Or do you mean mind set ? even then i dont see how any of these relate to the race you draw.

On August 23 2013 11:36 The_Templar wrote:
sometimes it gives you something like "eventually your main base will run out of resources" or "expanding early is risky but is often worth it" :/

On August 23 2013 13:50 _Search_ wrote:
Even better, they should tell the random player their race during the loading screen, and their opponent too. The fact that three years in it hasn't been done yet speaks against Blizzard.

On August 23 2013 11:11 iyasq8 wrote:
blizzard plz remove random players @randomplayerskillingesport

On August 23 2013 13:44 hearters wrote:


it matters because you know your opponent's race(unless he is also random) and then you can think about the matchup for an extra 5-10 seconds, instead of thinking of 3 different matchups. basically it allows you to establish a plan somewhat earlier

On August 23 2013 11:17 rpddropshot wrote:
That's a solid 5 more seconds to plan out my cheese for the game

On August 23 2013 11:59 julianto wrote:

I standardize my hotkeys for all races. For example, S for all 3 race workers. H for all 3 race expansions. As you can tell, I started out playing zerg and have gotten used to it.

On August 23 2013 11:04 skadumdums wrote:
I haven't seen this on the forums yet and it's something I noticed while playing random. As a random you can determine your race from the loading screen by looking at the tip.

If the tip applies to Protoss then you will spawn as Protoss (Zerg tip = Zerg, etc.).
Please keep in mind that there are still general tips that apply to every race, so you can't decide from those, however a majority of the time they will be specific.

Just something to help random players get in the right mind state for the match up a little bit ahead of opening.

On August 23 2013 11:36 The_Templar wrote:
sometimes it gives you something like "eventually your main base will run out of resources" or "expanding early is risky but is often worth it" :/

On August 23 2013 14:17 Alex1Sun wrote:

Why?

Random players mostly cheese, because it's really hard to learn to play macro games in 9 match ups. Therefore if you see a random player, simply prepare for cheeses. Easy win for you.

If you don't like playing against cheese or random players, they also should not bother you much, because very few play random.

On August 24 2013 06:02 Rhaegal wrote:
I just leave vs random players.

Forced into sub optimal build vs someone who is going to play gimmicky/ weird because he doesn't understand the races.

On August 24 2013 06:01 Aveng3r wrote:
this is earth shattering

On August 24 2013 05:29 Ureth_RA wrote:
I think anyone above bronze lvl knew this...

On August 24 2013 06:09 jinorazi wrote:


shouldnt mechanics win you games, not builds? skill = build execution, mechanics =/= skill ???

On August 24 2013 06:02 Rhaegal wrote:
I just leave vs random players.

Forced into sub optimal build vs someone who is going to play gimmicky/ weird because he doesn't understand the races.

On August 24 2013 06:09 jinorazi wrote:


shouldnt mechanics win you games, not builds? skill = build execution, mechanics =/= skill ???

On August 24 2013 06:09 jinorazi wrote:


shouldnt mechanics win you games, not builds? skill = build execution, mechanics =/= skill ???

On August 23 2013 11:13 iPAndi wrote:
What kind of advantage would this give? 5 more seconds? 10? I don't get why it's better to know before the game starts to when it actually starts.

On August 24 2013 08:03 Vanadiel wrote:


Well ladder doesn't mean anything to be honest, I just play on it to get better, so playing vs random is just meaningless since they start with an unfair advantage, I just either 1 base ling baneling or quit the game if they don't give their race.

On August 24 2013 09:05 Larkin wrote:
To be fair not knowing the race is really annoying. You can't FFE against Zergs. Pretty much any build has to be altered and made safer until you know for sure.

I asked for race, was told Zerg, proceeded to throw down a forge at my natural, went to scout, scouted his base last, and died to a 4gate. People are dicks.

Perhaps having the race come up for the non random player in the loading screen would be useful. Or indeed, both players, since the point of random is to play with all races, not be unaware until the game starts, surely?

On August 24 2013 07:14 Nerchio wrote:

Doesn't understand the races? Alright.

On August 24 2013 10:50 BadBorz wrote:
ah yeah i understood now and the tip is to win a game in multiplayer kill all his structures or be the last player in the game. what race is then?

On August 25 2013 17:14 Generalul wrote:
This is even more helpfull if the game loads slow, you can think ahead of the map and plan your strat accordingly, but even with fast loading times, for me at least this is great because i know what key to press for making the first worke so i save some miliseconds

Now about the random haters out there, i bet that those who rage when you don't tell them your race are the same ones that rage anyway when they lose to a predetermined opponent, no matter how the game was played (ex "mech imba", "toss op" "no skill strat" etc). I play random in mid-high masters and yes, i cheese and allin too but i also play macro games in equall measure, you can't get better by having only one strat and a good player must handle all aspects of the game. I remember the beginnings of Starcraft 2 where players like Idra would only macro up and lose most of the times to cheese and others would only cheese/allin like BitByBit did...

Asking for your random opponent's race at the start of the game is like asking a terran player if he plans to open with 1 rax FE or with a reaper/hellion pressure build. Is not that hard to 9 scout, you know? If in WOL standard vs zerg for toss was FFE, now even if you don't know your opponent's race, 1gate expo is the new norm, so no more excuses... Random is not overpowered, and if your whole build depends on not scouting or scouting late, then you can lose to any cheese your opponents might do, not only randoms...

On August 23 2013 11:13 iPAndi wrote:
What kind of advantage would this give? 5 more seconds? 10? I don't get why it's better to know before the game starts to when it actually starts.