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Deleted User 123474
Profile Joined November 2010
292 Posts
August 24 2013 01:29 GMT
#61
On August 24 2013 07:14 Nerchio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 06:02 Rhaegal wrote:
I just leave vs random players.

Forced into sub optimal build vs someone who is going to play gimmicky/ weird because he doesn't understand the races.

Doesn't understand the races? Alright.

LOL. Yeah, owned. The random hate sounds like the people playing 1v1 and complaining about getting matched up against 3 zergs in a row ("So non-random! So many zergs out there!"). It's just irrational.

This trick is fancy, I'm going to definitely use it. Gotta get that third of a second head start on workers!
BadBorz
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada61 Posts
August 24 2013 01:44 GMT
#62
the tip? i m not sure to understand what you mean. where can i see my race? do you have pic?
BadBorz
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada61 Posts
August 24 2013 01:44 GMT
#63
I just see Random and loading...
BadBorz
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada61 Posts
August 24 2013 01:47 GMT
#64
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iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
August 24 2013 01:48 GMT
#65
On August 24 2013 10:47 BadBorz wrote:
[image loading]

Great post that probably all 15 people here will understand.

English dood, english.
Unbiased biased terran abuser Jeffrey. Sorry for the rage, friend!
BadBorz
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada61 Posts
August 24 2013 01:50 GMT
#66
ah yeah i understood now and the tip is to win a game in multiplayer kill all his structures or be the last player in the game. what race is then?
iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
August 24 2013 01:51 GMT
#67
On August 24 2013 10:50 BadBorz wrote:
ah yeah i understood now and the tip is to win a game in multiplayer kill all his structures or be the last player in the game. what race is then?

It's SOME tips are race reliant. Not all. Not every tip when playing random will be a race specific. It's a toss up if you get it.
Unbiased biased terran abuser Jeffrey. Sorry for the rage, friend!
BadBorz
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada61 Posts
August 24 2013 01:54 GMT
#68
but why blizzard doesnt reveal race in loading screen?
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5724 Posts
August 24 2013 02:00 GMT
#69
that would defeat the whole random aspect
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
August 24 2013 02:01 GMT
#70
lol I am so tired.. for a solid minute or so I was thinking "what? the tip of what thing? just the tip? what tip? OH THE TIP!" I forgot the tips even existed, I hardly ever notice em.
"Right on" - Morrow
mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-24 03:09:28
August 24 2013 03:08 GMT
#71
i dont find that this trick helps much, atleast for me

since i always already have my fingers on W,E,A,S,D at the start

and all races will basically start with the same worker build up to 8 supply (if zerg and want to 6 pool, just cancel the drone egg)

by the time that time i will surely already know what build order i want to begin with


If this trick told you the opponents random race, then sure this would be OP, but since it only tells what race you will be, i dont think its big of a deal

(i have both the dark voice and predator icons, so i have played a ton of random games)
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
August 24 2013 03:25 GMT
#72
Didn't know that!
But then again, I don't play random. Random is the root of all evil.
iGn1t3
Profile Joined May 2011
Hong Kong73 Posts
August 25 2013 04:02 GMT
#73
Nice stuff, didnt realise till now haha. thanks!
I lose today to win tomorrow.
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
August 25 2013 04:18 GMT
#74
I figured it out back in WoL since it happend there as well.

Not really new or anything but still interesting.
Generalul
Profile Joined March 2011
Romania114 Posts
August 25 2013 08:14 GMT
#75
This is even more helpfull if the game loads slow, you can think ahead of the map and plan your strat accordingly, but even with fast loading times, for me at least this is great because i know what key to press for making the first worke so i save some miliseconds

Now about the random haters out there, i bet that those who rage when you don't tell them your race are the same ones that rage anyway when they lose to a predetermined opponent, no matter how the game was played (ex "mech imba", "toss op" "no skill strat" etc). I play random in mid-high masters and yes, i cheese and allin too but i also play macro games in equall measure, you can't get better by having only one strat and a good player must handle all aspects of the game. I remember the beginnings of Starcraft 2 where players like Idra would only macro up and lose most of the times to cheese and others would only cheese/allin like BitByBit did...

Asking for your random opponent's race at the start of the game is like asking a terran player if he plans to open with 1 rax FE or with a reaper/hellion pressure build. Is not that hard to 9 scout, you know? If in WOL standard vs zerg for toss was FFE, now even if you don't know your opponent's race, 1gate expo is the new norm, so no more excuses... Random is not overpowered, and if your whole build depends on not scouting or scouting late, then you can lose to any cheese your opponents might do, not only randoms...

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SorrowShine
Profile Joined October 2011
698 Posts
August 27 2013 13:30 GMT
#76
Intresting observation
FrogsAreDogs
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada181 Posts
August 27 2013 14:11 GMT
#77
"Yet another Random trick" ha ha ha get it? "Random" trick? ha ha ha.....
YO
Like a Boss
Profile Joined January 2011
502 Posts
August 27 2013 14:16 GMT
#78
Wow i didnt know about that at all. oh wait, i dont play random.
00higgo
Profile Joined May 2013
Australia119 Posts
August 27 2013 14:29 GMT
#79
I just go balls deep and 1gate expo vs random, you can get away with a lot vs most randoms, and opening gate being safe vs zerg now due to msc takes out the BO argument, if you don't have any gateway openings vs Zerg then......... Vs Terran I 1gate expo anyway so it does not change my build and vs toss again the msc takes away a lot of risk, basically imo there is no advantage to playing random anymore(if there ever was) at least from a Protoss point of view.
00higgo
Profile Joined May 2013
Australia119 Posts
August 27 2013 14:32 GMT
#80
On August 25 2013 17:14 Generalul wrote:
This is even more helpfull if the game loads slow, you can think ahead of the map and plan your strat accordingly, but even with fast loading times, for me at least this is great because i know what key to press for making the first worke so i save some miliseconds

Now about the random haters out there, i bet that those who rage when you don't tell them your race are the same ones that rage anyway when they lose to a predetermined opponent, no matter how the game was played (ex "mech imba", "toss op" "no skill strat" etc). I play random in mid-high masters and yes, i cheese and allin too but i also play macro games in equall measure, you can't get better by having only one strat and a good player must handle all aspects of the game. I remember the beginnings of Starcraft 2 where players like Idra would only macro up and lose most of the times to cheese and others would only cheese/allin like BitByBit did...

Asking for your random opponent's race at the start of the game is like asking a terran player if he plans to open with 1 rax FE or with a reaper/hellion pressure build. Is not that hard to 9 scout, you know? If in WOL standard vs zerg for toss was FFE, now even if you don't know your opponent's race, 1gate expo is the new norm, so no more excuses... Random is not overpowered, and if your whole build depends on not scouting or scouting late, then you can lose to any cheese your opponents might do, not only randoms...


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