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Specific feedback and feature requests should go here: Aligulac.com changelog and feedback thread
We have a FAQ here. FAQ means Frequently Asked Questions. Odds are your Question is Frequently Asked. Visit us aligulac.com
Hello everyone, another 2 exciting weeks of Starcraft has passed by with lots of great matches, and of course lots of points being won and lost.
Now before we get into this, remember that a difference of around 250 or less means that there is no statistically significant difference between two players, but who am I kidding, you just want to rage and yell at our stats, so here we go.
The list:
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INnoVation 2012 (+45: Proleague, WCS KR, IEM Shanghai Qualifiers)
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Life 1950 (+21: WCS KR, GSTL, RSL)
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Polt 1937 (+43: WCS AM, SEANA, ZOTAC)
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HyuN 1933 (+63: ATC, IEM Shanghai Qualifiers, RSL, Dreamhack )
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Mvp 1880 (-46: IEM Shanghai Qualifiers)
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Flash 1836 (+9: Proleague, WCS KR)
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LucifroN 1835 (+1: RSL, ATC, Dreamhack, SC2L, EPS Spain )
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San 1830 (-4:GSTL, WCS EU Qualifiers, IEM Shanghai Qualifiers, ZOTAC)
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sOs 1822 (-2: WCS KR)
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viOLet 1820 (-34: GSTL, IEM Shanghai Qualifiers, WCS AM )
Honorable mentions: Taeja, Leenock, Soulkey, YongHwa, Bomber, First.
While some might still disagree with what our beloved Tasteless uttered when he called INnoVation the greatest RTS-player of all time, we at aligulac cannot deny that his current rating is the highest peak ever held by anyone in Starcraft 2. He currently also boasts the second highest vZ rating ever attained (highest being Taeja in the late summer of Taeja 2012) and the 4th highest vP ever attained (1st through 3rd being Stephano, MarineKing and Polt). There is no doubt that INnoVation is a record breaker, and it will be fun to see if he will continue his streak of supreme domination in the weeks to come. All records here. Second place on this periods ranking is still held by Life, and while I can almost feel Waxangel breathing "Time based decay" behind me in the voice of Senator Palpatine, Life has actually played and won some games these last 2 weeks. The rest is a good mix of travelling Koreans stealing foreigner money and points, a couple of Kespa pros and LucifroN. Poor Soulkey misses out on our top 10 again mainly due to losing 3-0 to INnoVation.
The foreigner list:-
LucifroN 1835 (+1: RSL, ATC, Dreamhack, SC2L, EPS Spain )
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Sen 1731 (+0: No change)
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Happy 1709 (+20: WCS EU, ZOTAC )
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VortiX 1702 (+41: RSL, EPS Spain, WCS EU, Dreamhack, ZOTAC )
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NaNiwa 1701 (+0: No change)
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Snute 1665 (-28 ATC, WCS AM, SC2L)
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Scarlett 1638 (+6: ATC, SC2L, WCS AM, GSTL, RSL)
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Jim 1629 (+7: WCS AM, RSL)
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TLO 1616 (+19: Kaspersky, ATC, Showmatch, SC2L)
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Nerchio 1584 (+34: go4sc2, ATC, SC2L)
Honorable mentions: Welmu, Kas, Stephano, Bunny, Hasuobs, MaNa
This period we see Stephano and Bunny falling out of the top 10, while Nerchio enters and TLO reenters. VortiX takes a few steps up and everything else is fine and dandy. Speaking about records, LucifroN's current peak rating is the 2nd highest ever achieved by a foreigner, Stephano still holds the highest foreigner record. Graphics here.
Besides all the great matches being played, I want to share some of the stuff that have been going on with aligulac for the last 2 weeks. One of my favorite new things is the "hover over tooltip", meaning that in the ranking page, you can hover over a red/green arrow and see how many places a player has moved since last ranking, or how many points have been gained, both in general, vP, vT and vZ. We also recently introduced a new report which shows the performance difference, which is
the approximate difference between actual performance as evidenced by results and predicted performance by rating. While I am no expert on the subject, it is explained in the above mentioned link, and I am sure TheBB is willing to explain it in case anyone has any more questions. We also recently added a bit extra info to our Best-of-N predictions to help especially casters get a quick overview faster, it looks like this, and I do believe it is the intention that these MU numbers and the head to head scores will be split into WoL and HotS once we get around to adding this as well.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ayq1exY.png?1)
We have also recently been getting a great deal of positive attention, WCS EU has switched to showing our match-up statistics instead of TLPD's. Khaldor has been dropping a lot of statistics in his WCS KR casts that I know he gets from us. DarKFoRcE is using our match-up statistics daily in his shared predictions for various tournaments. We encourage you guys to keep doing this and please speak up with what you wish could be added to the site in the future, we try to incorporate as much good functionality as we possibly can without killing our server. Current functions/ideas that are awaiting coding and which we hope to add in the future includes but isn't limited to:
- API functionality.
- Better ace match functionality while doing proleague style predictions.
- Top XX racedistribution (e.g. current top 100 racedistribution)
- Postable brackets for predictions.
- More charts on player pages.
- Current and best winstreak info.
- More MU-stats in general.
To top it all off, more and more pro players are reporting results (mainly those they win themselves :D) and helping us correct errors (thanks to ROOTpuCK especially these last 2 weeks). Please keep doing this, we are only human, and some bracket systems/site do unfortunately sometimes show a 2-0 instead of a walkover, which can fool our match submitters some time. We are only human after all (except for Shellshock).
Shoutout this week to Prillan who has coded what TheBB refers to as the "The paste-a-liquipedia-bracket" code, done some caching, and a bracket postable feature. All of which is awaiting final approval/implementation by TheBB. Shoutout as well to our hardworking team of match submitters, our hard working programming team, Delphi who recently joined to do some of the German scene matches and finally to the guys who manage the @Starcraft twitter account for this gem:
If anyone is sitting out there and wants in on the aligulac fun, either as a programmer, a match submitter or just wants to help in general feel free as always to use any of the communication methods below.
If you want to get in contact with us or have suggestion feel free to use:
- This thread.
- Twitter @Sc2Aligulac.
- PM. Me or TheBB.
- IRC: #aligulac on quakenet.
- E-mail to evfonn(at)gmail(dot)com.
- Issue list on GitHub.
- Pilgrimage to Zürich. TheBB will find you.
Untill we talk again, may your proxies stay unscouted and your psi-storms be "Grubby vs. Stareagle game 3" levels of devastation.
The Aligulac team:- The motherfucking boss: TheBB.
- Programming team: TheBB, Conti, Otolia, Netbattler, NCzempin, XavierMarchegay, Arzar, Prillan.
- Database maintainers: TheBB, Conti, kiekaboe, Inflicted, MasterOfPuppets, Grovbolle, PhoenixVoid, Shellshock, TheAmazombie, FrozENDruiD, Delphi.
- Chief commander of public relations, high admiral of the tweet fleet, lord chieftain of write-ups and father of dragoons: Grovbolle. (Writing these things gives you the right to an awesome title.
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On July 26 2013 04:47 stormtemplar wrote: None-Subtle Aligulac>TLPD brag spotted (;
Otherwise, Pretty awesome stuff. You guys have a great thing going. Actually I only spotted that they were using us during the cast, I was later informed by the others that they had used TLPD beforehand. But yes I am very subtle in general
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On July 26 2013 04:40 Grovbolle wrote: Chief commander of public relations, high admiral of the tweet fleet, lord chieftain of write-ups and father of dragoons: Grovbolle. (Writing these things gives you the right to an awesome title.
haha
Always like the updates, thanks!
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Keep up the fantastic work :3
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Another fortnight, another amazing update from the Aligulac folks. Keep up the great work! Really enjoying all the features you folks are adding for the community.
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Aligulac is pretty awful, nah just kidding it's awesome :D
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Hasu seems to be on the rise these days.
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suprised that life is still this high
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Really liking your work, especially because things are usually very up to date!
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On July 26 2013 05:08 Paljas wrote: suprised that life is still this high It is due to the fact that he hasn't played that much, and if you doesn't play much nor lose much, you do not lose that many points. Combine this with the fact that Glicko rating doesn't have decay built into it (at least directly) and you can have him linger pretty high even though he might not "deserve" it.
I believe Otolia is trying to test various degrees of decay to see what that will do the rating/prediction power of the rating.
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TLADT24920 Posts
Looks good, thanks! I've always found it odd that all tournaments are taken into account for these rankings when certain players only play in certain tournaments. I can understand that there isn't much that can be done on that front though although I am still really curious what the rankings would be in that case
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Even though Mvp dropped by a lot of points, it's important to remember that he didn't really play anything.
He bombed out of an online qualifier... and that's fairly usual for Mvp at this point. He always brings the best quality of play to live, online tournaments.
So... two online series cost him a whopping 46 points. Well, with WCS EU Ro16 coming up, Mvp should regain some of those points soon enough.
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Keep up the good work guys. I follow baseball and you can't have baseball without stats and metrics. I like how sc2 is becoming more stats based compared to the other games.
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On July 26 2013 05:25 Entirety wrote:Even though Mvp dropped by a lot of points, it's important to remember that he didn't really play anything. He bombed out of an online qualifier... and that's fairly usual for Mvp at this point. He always brings the best quality of play to live, online tournaments. So... two online series cost him a whopping 46 points. Well, with WCS EU Ro16 coming up, Mvp should regain some of those points soon enough.  To be fair, with the amount of vZ points he has, he should have beaten both DRG and Symbol, instead he lost 0-4. Which is why he lost the points. Also he hasn't played much in 8 weeks, which raises the uncertainty, and thus makes points transfers larger.
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Tasteless is always right, eventually.
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On July 26 2013 05:30 Shellshock1122 wrote: Tasteless is always right, eventually.
Bomber is a tier 3 terran..... eventually.
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this site is so sick, keep it up
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Is Aligulac meant to be named after Caligula?
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thx aligulac! btw
"[2:05:53 PM] MajOrSC2: 2013-07-03 1257 MajOr MX T 0–2 Z US goswser 1416 HotS online 2013-07-03 1390 MajOr MX T 2–0 T US theognis 983 HotS [2:05:55 PM] MajOrSC2: me no play [2:05:55 PM] MajOrSC2: this"
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On July 26 2013 06:06 Superiorwolf wrote: thx aligulac! btw
"[2:05:53 PM] MajOrSC2: 2013-07-03 1257 MajOr MX T 0–2 Z US goswser 1416 HotS online 2013-07-03 1390 MajOr MX T 2–0 T US theognis 983 HotS [2:05:55 PM] MajOrSC2: me no play [2:05:55 PM] MajOrSC2: this"
ah looks like liquipedia had the same problem. I'll go ahead and change both http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IEM_Season_VIII_-_Shanghai/American_Qualifier
edit Aligulac and liquipedia should be updated to reflect those matches removed now
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On July 26 2013 06:05 T0MORR0W wrote: Is Aligulac meant to be named after Caligula? From our FAQ http://aligulac.com/faq/
The name Aligulac is derived from that of the Roman emperor Caligula, so if you can pronounce that, all you have to do is shift the C to the end and you're good to go.
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Nice to hear you're getting some attention, keep up the good work!
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How can I report matches that were incorrectly put there that were in fact walkovers ><
never played ->
IPL Season 5 America Satellite 2 Bracket 1 2012-09-05 Scarlett CA Z 0–1 Z US Sasquatch
IPL TAC3 Qualfiers 2 Ro16 LighT eSports vs Eclypsia 2012-04-21 Scarlett CA Z 0–1 Z US Heavens
FlamingCow.tv Open 1 Group Stage Group C 2013-03-02 Scarlett CA Z 0–2 P US Astrea
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On July 26 2013 06:16 Acer.Scarlett` wrote: How can I report matches that were incorrectly put there that were in fact walkovers ><
never played ->
IPL Season 5 America Satellite 2 Bracket 1 2012-09-05 Scarlett CA Z 0–1 Z US Sasquatch
IPL TAC3 Qualfiers 2 Ro16 LighT eSports vs Eclypsia 2012-04-21 Scarlett CA Z 0–1 Z US Heavens
FlamingCow.tv Open 1 Group Stage Group C 2013-03-02 Scarlett CA Z 0–2 P US Astrea I do believe you just did. Thank you, has been fixed, should be updated when our server updates in around 40 minutes or so.
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On July 26 2013 06:11 Grovbolle wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 06:05 T0MORR0W wrote: Is Aligulac meant to be named after Caligula? From our FAQ http://aligulac.com/faq/Show nested quote +The name Aligulac is derived from that of the Roman emperor Caligula, so if you can pronounce that, all you have to do is shift the C to the end and you're good to go. What made you decide to choose him as an inspiration? He kind of has a reputation for being a lunatic, and according to Wikipedia, once forced a helper named Macro to commit suicide. Does this mean that you hate macro games and are killing eSports?
But seriously, that's an interesting choice. Why him?
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United States97276 Posts
They got added in. They were added on the date of the last day of MLG because that was when they were played, right? 2013-06-30 hendralisk CA Z 2–0 Z CA Kane HotS offline
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On July 26 2013 06:20 T0MORR0W wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 06:11 Grovbolle wrote:On July 26 2013 06:05 T0MORR0W wrote: Is Aligulac meant to be named after Caligula? From our FAQ http://aligulac.com/faq/The name Aligulac is derived from that of the Roman emperor Caligula, so if you can pronounce that, all you have to do is shift the C to the end and you're good to go. What made you decide to choose him as an inspiration? He kind of has a reputation for being a lunatic, and according to Wikipedia, once forced a helper named Macro to commit suicide. Does this mean that you hate macro games and are killing eSports? But seriously, that's an interesting choice. Why him?
Aligulac, as a word, was initially formed when Eivind and a fellow classmate were doing programming exercises for school. As a fake company, Aligulac bought and sold however many units of product that Eivind needed for his classwork. Imaginary, yes, but as all faux-companies tend to be, highly successful. Later, Aligulac doubled as an excellent name for a soccer team.
In 2009, Eivind earned his masters degree in industrial mathematics, in his hometown of Trondheim, Norway. Shortly thereafter, as an intern for ETH Zurich, he found a Ph.D. project that allowed him to stay in Switzerland, where he currently lives and works.
Watching GSL inspired him to write a fun program that could say how likely it would be for a player to advance from an Up and Down group, based on a player’s rating. Combining Team Liquid and sc2charts.net data, Eivind created his own prediction method, based on the Glicko rating system. Eivind decided to make this system available publicly and brought back his go-to name for such projects to create aligulac.com. http://www.esfiworld.com/interview-with-eivind-fonn-founder-of-starcraft-2-statistics-and-ranking-site-aligulac/
I have no idea why TheBB picked that name, why does anyone pick random names besides them sounding cool?
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On July 26 2013 06:24 Grovbolle wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 06:20 T0MORR0W wrote:On July 26 2013 06:11 Grovbolle wrote:On July 26 2013 06:05 T0MORR0W wrote: Is Aligulac meant to be named after Caligula? From our FAQ http://aligulac.com/faq/The name Aligulac is derived from that of the Roman emperor Caligula, so if you can pronounce that, all you have to do is shift the C to the end and you're good to go. What made you decide to choose him as an inspiration? He kind of has a reputation for being a lunatic, and according to Wikipedia, once forced a helper named Macro to commit suicide. Does this mean that you hate macro games and are killing eSports? But seriously, that's an interesting choice. Why him? Show nested quote +Aligulac, as a word, was initially formed when Eivind and a fellow classmate were doing programming exercises for school. As a fake company, Aligulac bought and sold however many units of product that Eivind needed for his classwork. Imaginary, yes, but as all faux-companies tend to be, highly successful. Later, Aligulac doubled as an excellent name for a soccer team.
In 2009, Eivind earned his masters degree in industrial mathematics, in his hometown of Trondheim, Norway. Shortly thereafter, as an intern for ETH Zurich, he found a Ph.D. project that allowed him to stay in Switzerland, where he currently lives and works.
Watching GSL inspired him to write a fun program that could say how likely it would be for a player to advance from an Up and Down group, based on a player’s rating. Combining Team Liquid and sc2charts.net data, Eivind created his own prediction method, based on the Glicko rating system. Eivind decided to make this system available publicly and brought back his go-to name for such projects to create aligulac.com. http://www.esfiworld.com/interview-with-eivind-fonn-founder-of-starcraft-2-statistics-and-ranking-site-aligulac/I have no idea why TheBB picked that name, why does anyone pick random names besides them sounding cool? I was hoping for something more meaningful, but whatever. It's an awesome site: keep it up.
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Ohh it was added of games played, I was looking at my recent 10 matches hehe
(nom nom more zvz pts for me)
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Thanks for all your good wishes. I'm still on a semi-hiatus until the end of August (more or less). I still have volunteers who code stuff (Prillan, you're cool), but it's not as fast as it used to be. All the credit for keeping the data up to date belongs to the team.
On July 26 2013 06:29 T0MORR0W wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 06:24 Grovbolle wrote:On July 26 2013 06:20 T0MORR0W wrote:On July 26 2013 06:11 Grovbolle wrote:On July 26 2013 06:05 T0MORR0W wrote: Is Aligulac meant to be named after Caligula? From our FAQ http://aligulac.com/faq/The name Aligulac is derived from that of the Roman emperor Caligula, so if you can pronounce that, all you have to do is shift the C to the end and you're good to go. What made you decide to choose him as an inspiration? He kind of has a reputation for being a lunatic, and according to Wikipedia, once forced a helper named Macro to commit suicide. Does this mean that you hate macro games and are killing eSports? But seriously, that's an interesting choice. Why him? Aligulac, as a word, was initially formed when Eivind and a fellow classmate were doing programming exercises for school. As a fake company, Aligulac bought and sold however many units of product that Eivind needed for his classwork. Imaginary, yes, but as all faux-companies tend to be, highly successful. Later, Aligulac doubled as an excellent name for a soccer team.
In 2009, Eivind earned his masters degree in industrial mathematics, in his hometown of Trondheim, Norway. Shortly thereafter, as an intern for ETH Zurich, he found a Ph.D. project that allowed him to stay in Switzerland, where he currently lives and works.
Watching GSL inspired him to write a fun program that could say how likely it would be for a player to advance from an Up and Down group, based on a player’s rating. Combining Team Liquid and sc2charts.net data, Eivind created his own prediction method, based on the Glicko rating system. Eivind decided to make this system available publicly and brought back his go-to name for such projects to create aligulac.com. http://www.esfiworld.com/interview-with-eivind-fonn-founder-of-starcraft-2-statistics-and-ranking-site-aligulac/I have no idea why TheBB picked that name, why does anyone pick random names besides them sounding cool? I was hoping for something more meaningful, but whatever.  It's an awesome site: keep it up. Yeah, sorry. It was something I came up with as a kid. When I needed a domain name to play around with, that's the one I got, and when I needed a domain to put this site on, I just used the one I had laying around. If I had known that this was going to become a thing I might have chosen a better name. I think it's stuck now though...
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On July 26 2013 06:30 NMxhendralisk wrote:Ohh it was added of games played, I was looking at my recent 10 matches hehe (nom nom more zvz pts for me) Yeah, unless MajOr wants to re-spoiler, this time with the entire bracket, we are still waiting for the last matches to be streamed before we can add them.
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On July 26 2013 06:16 Acer.Scarlett` wrote: How can I report matches that were incorrectly put there that were in fact walkovers ><
never played ->
IPL Season 5 America Satellite 2 Bracket 1 2012-09-05 Scarlett CA Z 0–1 Z US Sasquatch
IPL TAC3 Qualfiers 2 Ro16 LighT eSports vs Eclypsia 2012-04-21 Scarlett CA Z 0–1 Z US Heavens
FlamingCow.tv Open 1 Group Stage Group C 2013-03-02 Scarlett CA Z 0–2 P US Astrea This gained you a higher place, and also gave Life and VortiX +1 point. :D
Whenever we add matches that are way old, I always fear how much it changes due to the interdependence of who beat who at what time.
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On July 26 2013 04:40 Grovbolle wrote:One of my favorite new things is the "hover over tooltip", meaning that in the ranking page, you can hover over a red/green arrow and see how many places a player has moved since last ranking, or how many points have been gained, both in general, vP, vT and vZ. I was the one who tweeted this idea to you guys!
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whoa Jim nearly caught up to Scarlett, and he is past TLO and Nerchio in points??
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Aligulac is fantastic and those reports are great ! You deserve what you get from the casters/tournament producers, etc. Even Nerchio loves you, that's huge ! :D
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Do Koreans still start at 1200 and offline is worth 1.5 times online? I also noticed Mvp's spike early 2011 is lower and is thereby no longer in the all-time top 5--was this from an individual change in his results or an overall change? Thirdly I saw that foreigners jumped up a bit in the HoF -- changes there?
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On July 26 2013 09:50 monkybone wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 04:40 Grovbolle wrote:
Now before we get into this, remember that a difference of around 250 or less means that there is no statistically significant difference between two players Why is this exactly, and does 250 apply equally to all players? Isn't this really a question of the statistical deviation of a players skill rating, with a lower deviation for consistent players? In sc2 the skill of players can change very rapidly, and vary a lot. I don't know how well this system accounts for that, but I do believe the statistical deviation for each player is an essential statistic in addition to their ranking. It doesn't apply equally to all players, it's a rule of thumb based on the mean deviation observed across the player pool. Even though the deviations change a bit, it doesn't impact this number very much, so for all practical purposes you can consider it to be constant.
On July 26 2013 10:14 rift wrote: Do Koreans still start at 1200 and offline is worth 1.5 times online? I also noticed Mvp's spike early 2011 is lower and is thereby no longer in the all-time top 5--was this from an individual change in his results or an overall change? Thirdly I saw that foreigners jumped up a bit in the HoF -- changes there?
- Yes, you can see the parameters in the github repository (rating numbers are scaled by 1000 and shifted by 1, so 1000 displayed on the site is 0 in the code).
- We lowered initial uncertainty a bit. (Same file, you can read the history. Note that this might include changes that were never pushed to the server.)
- Could also be related to #2. It's the only thing I can think of.
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On July 26 2013 08:42 Die4Ever wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 04:40 Grovbolle wrote:One of my favorite new things is the "hover over tooltip", meaning that in the ranking page, you can hover over a red/green arrow and see how many places a player has moved since last ranking, or how many points have been gained, both in general, vP, vT and vZ. I was the one who tweeted this idea to you guys!  Cool, someone suggested it in an earlier write-up before you though ;-) But your tweet made us make it a priority.
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This is the beginning of the SC2 betting scene right here. Probably the most reliable ratings and statistics to be found anywhere.
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On July 27 2013 20:25 Jintoss wrote: This is the beginning of the SC2 betting scene right here. Probably the most reliable ratings and statistics to be found anywhere. If you want in on the betting on SC2 scene, I recommend www.esportsedge.com which is managed by Darkforce, really good analysis and he shares most of his bets.
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