EPTWCS Season 2 Regional League Finals Dates - Page 7
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edgeOut
United States945 Posts
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kaztah
Norway1221 Posts
On July 23 2013 05:43 treeco72 wrote: Twitch is so F***ed... and of course i'm not gonna miss TI3 for this... hopefully the in-game "dota tv" will still work Dota tv ingame worked perfect with over 100k last year, and they've improved it quite a bit since that. No worries for that. | ||
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IamHobbyless
Germany29 Posts
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Rannasha
Netherlands2398 Posts
I wish that there'd be an honest explanation as to what the hell Blizzard was smoking when they came up with this. Though the answer would probably be something like "we screwed up the planning, this was the only choice left". | ||
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ivancype
Brazil485 Posts
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AgentW
United States7725 Posts
On July 23 2013 05:51 Rannasha wrote: Wow, this is just a terrible idea. 3 major SC2 tournaments in the same weekend? Nice, you'll lose part of your most fanatic audience from exhaustion halfway through (that is, if they even bother to start with WCS AM). And since competition between the 3 WCS regions wasn't enough, lets pick the weekend that the main annual tournament of another popular esports title is held. I wish that there'd be an honest explanation as to what the hell Blizzard was smoking when they came up with this. Though the answer would probably be something like "we screwed up the planning, this was the only choice left". I think it's pretty much what you said. As Plansix has posted, they're going to have to rush to squeeze S3 in before Blizzcon, and another delay probably would sink that ship. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 23 2013 05:52 ivancype wrote: The only reason to Blizzard to make the 3 finals in the same weekend is lack of time, but at least they could delay the same schedule by 1 week to avoid the conflict with TI3. Just rush the first group stage of wcs season 3 and they would be fine. The World of Tanks finals are the next weekend for North America, which is run by the NASL crew and they can't do both at the same time. I bet if I looked up LoL, ESL would be busy with something too. | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On July 23 2013 05:46 Plansix wrote: Ok, so I did that math. After the season 2 finals on August 10, 2013, they have 12 weeks to get season 3 of WCS done and in the bag. At the pace they have been going, with a 2 week break, they will be cutting it close. I can see why they don't want to delay if possible, even for TI3. To add even more to your point, the angry people should take a step back and ask themselves: is it worse to compete with TI3 for viewers, a tournament that while massive still showcases a different game entirely, or schedule the Season 2 finals earlier and trample all over DreamHack/Assembly/IEM? Honestly I think Blizzard made the better choice here, unfortunate as though it may be. | ||
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ZombieRitual
United States121 Posts
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Rannasha
Netherlands2398 Posts
On July 23 2013 05:54 AgentW wrote: I think it's pretty much what you said. As Plansix has posted, they're going to have to rush to squeeze S3 in before Blizzcon, and another delay probably would sink that ship. You'd think that at the time of the inception of WCS people could grab a calendar and count the weeks they had until their grand finals date to come up with a proper division of time. There were some breaks that could've been shaved down a bit. | ||
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Riffandroll
Canada71 Posts
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Random_Guy09
Canada1010 Posts
On July 23 2013 05:49 badeanden wrote: I kind of understands why everyone is so angry, but I don't think Blizzard had any choice in their schedueling. They could not have it any of the earlier weekends because of Dreamhack/Asus Rog/IEM. They could no postphone the league finals, because they need to scheduel the season finals. I think people are overreacting, it would be worse if the Season 2 finals crashed. The season 2 finals should be a much better thing anyways, this is only a qualifier (sortof) Well then Blizzard will have to suffer dealing with shitty routing for their streams and will have to deal with the lag backlash. Plus the TI3 dates were out way in advance so Blizzard has had the chance to schedule around it which they didn't for w/e reason. Blizzard will have the lowest amount of viewers they've ever had for each final. And if the stream crashes they're shit out of luck. On July 23 2013 05:57 Riffandroll wrote: Deplorable decision by Blizzard. If they seemed out of touch with the community before, this really tops it for me. TI3 will be what I'll be watching (if Twitch doesn't blow up). So many good things came from Blizzard, but overall it doesn't work anymore. Valve seems to be on the right track. They just seem to listen to the community. You feel it in the game and outside. As for Blizzard, I don't feel it, anywhere's. Which is sad because Sc2 and it's surrounding community (pros, casters, etc.) is amazing. They will suffer more in the end. You know Blizzard, the people that made your game (and your bank accounts) epic by playing it, broadcasting it, paying the bills of of it. Long term, Blizzard will just not be able to keep up... Don't forget that TI3 will be available for free in DotaTV so you have nothing to really worry about if twitch dies during games :D | ||
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Rhaegal
United States678 Posts
They can hold their tournament whenever they want, why care about a tournament for another game. | ||
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AgentW
United States7725 Posts
On July 23 2013 05:56 Rannasha wrote: You'd think that at the time of the inception of WCS people could grab a calendar and count the weeks they had until their grand finals date to come up with a proper division of time. There were some breaks that could've been shaved down a bit. Considering how terribly the WCS was initially done, I'm completely unsurprised that the foresight needed to avoid this was lacking. | ||
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c0ldfusion
United States8293 Posts
Sigh, Blizzard's WoW money is running (relatively) low these days. I also wonder if the TI3 prize pool is a function of Valve wanting to throw down with Riot. If it weren't for heated competition in the MOBA space, I just can't see Valve upping the ante like that. | ||
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Andorson
Germany166 Posts
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Emzeeshady
Canada4203 Posts
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VArsovskiSC
Macedonia563 Posts
I mean - doesn't matter that there are other tournaments (which I really find it funny how can there be a prize pool of 1M for a game that almost as equal amount of viewers are gotten), as long as the presented content/games/production is good.. Also - the 2 games weren't made by the same company, so it's not a Blizzard game, why the hell would they schedule themselves over another event ?? Even if they don't get as much viewers - at least Blizz will go their own way..  | ||
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Random_Guy09
Canada1010 Posts
On July 23 2013 05:57 Rhaegal wrote: Am I the only one that doesn't understand the shitstorm? What's the big deal... They can hold their tournament whenever they want, why care about a tournament for another game. Because it is literally the biggest tournament of the year for Dota 2 that now has the largest price pool in Esports history that was basically funded mostly by fans. It will overshadow WCS by miles which isn't good for the SC2 scene considering most SC2 fans are also big Dota 2 fans. Which basically puts the fans in a spot of choosing which to watch. Also no you won't really have time to watch WCS during TI3 because Valve makes sure there is absolutely minimal downtime in between matches. It's all about Blizzard seeing how shitty the viewership will be because of this decision. If you thought last year was low for NA finals it seems that the views will be even lower than last year. On July 23 2013 06:02 VArsovskiSC wrote: Perhaps it's time to see how much there are SC2 fans.. FOR REAL.. I mean - doesn't matter that there are other tournaments (which I really find it funny how can there be a prize pool of 1M for a game that almost as equal amount of viewers are gotten w.t.f.), as long as the presented content/games/production is good.. Also - the 2 games weren't made by the same company, so it's not a Blizzard game, why the hell would they schedule themselves over another event ?? Even if they don't get as much viewers - at least Blizz will go their own way.. Ok lets give an easy example here for you. So your saying that if I'm a fan of American Football and Soccer that if there is a conflict in scheduling that I'm only a TRUE fan of the sport if I pick one over the other? Pretty much what your saying here is that TRUE fans can only like 1 game? People ended up complaining about how low the viewership for the finals were last year for NA. Those numbers WILL drop substantially because of Blizzard's scheduling. If Blizzard ever wants more sponsors for their WCS none will bite at the bit to support it if the viewership is terrible. Plus TI3 is used by Valve to promote Dota 2 and only Dota 2. They literally don't put their brand on anything at the event. Its all Dota 2 and the teams involved. Even more is that TI3 is even more hyped than last years was. GL Twitch trying to handle all the TI3 traffic and keeping the streams alive. I'll be at the event hoping twitch is able to handle itself for the viewers that are unable to attend. Well even then there is Dota TV if twitch fails | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 23 2013 06:02 Emzeeshady wrote: Good thing I hate watching MOBA games. Twitch is going to be a problem though... You don't have too? SC2 will be rocking out all weekend for you. | ||
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