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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
On July 23 2013 05:57 Rhaegal wrote: Am I the only one that doesn't understand the shitstorm? What's the big deal... They can hold their tournament whenever they want, why care about a tournament for another game. Of course they CAN. But why they should care is pretty obvious. | ||
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Emzeeshady
Canada4203 Posts
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Turbulencedota
Romania29 Posts
On July 23 2013 05:57 Rhaegal wrote: Am I the only one that doesn't understand the shitstorm? What's the big deal... They can hold their tournament whenever they want, why care about a tournament for another game. Well, dota 2 and starcraft hold hands(usually) to push e-sports to mainstream. They collaborate. Blizzard just shot themselves in the foot with this. WCS will have low viewer count, and even than, one can speculate how many of those viewers will run WCS in the background while watching TI3 | ||
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AgentW
United States7725 Posts
You don't have to watch Dota, as you can watch SC2 for pretty much the whole weekend. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 23 2013 06:02 VArsovskiSC wrote: Perhaps it's time to see how much there are SC2 fans.. FOR REAL.. I mean - doesn't matter that there are other tournaments (which I really find it funny how can there be a prize pool of 1M for a game that almost as equal amount of viewers are gotten w.t.f.), as long as the presented content/games/production is good.. Also - the 2 games weren't made by the same company, so it's not a Blizzard game, why the hell would they schedule themselves over another event ?? Even if they don't get as much viewers - at least Blizz will go their own way..  There is no other weekend they can get it done. NASL is doing the world of tanks finals next weekend. I have no idea whats going on in Korea, but I bet its something because LCS is wrapping up. August is crowded with Esports stuff and all their production companies have, you know, produce Esports. | ||
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Elem
Sweden4717 Posts
On July 23 2013 06:04 Turbulencedota wrote: Well, dota 2 and starcraft hold hands(usually) to push e-sports to mainstream. They collaborate. Blizzard just shot themselves in the foot with this. WCS will have low viewer count, and even than, one can speculate how many of those viewers will run WCS in the background while watching TI3 That really needs a source. Else it's just your own personal fabrication. | ||
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TwilightRain
Germany351 Posts
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kaztah
Norway1221 Posts
On July 23 2013 06:00 c0ldfusion wrote: lol Valve's got that steam money (which I'm sure many of you contributed to this past week =P). Sigh, Blizzard's WoW money is running (relatively) low these days. I also wonder if the TI3 prize pool is a function of Valve wanting to throw down with Riot. If it weren't for heated competition in the MOBA space, I just can't see Valve upping the ante like that. Valve didnt increase the prize pool from last year by themselves. The difference this year is a compendium sold in the dota2 store, where 25% of the price went directly to the prize pool, and it sold enough to increase the prize with over a million so far. It's all community support. | ||
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c0ldfusion
United States8293 Posts
On July 23 2013 06:03 nihlon wrote: Of course they CAN. But why they should care is pretty obvious. Since we're all talking about this now anyway, I just want to throw this question out there, is there actually a big overlap between Dota2 spectators and SC2 spectators? Going by my experience from WC3 and Dota1, I don't expect there to be too much of an intersection between the two. I personally do not watch any MOBAs and my friends who play MOBAs could care less about SC2. Twitch infrastructure aside, a scheduling conflict doesn't matter too much if people mostly watch one or the other exclusively. | ||
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Turbulencedota
Romania29 Posts
On July 23 2013 06:06 Elem wrote: That really needs a source. Else it's just your own personal fabrication. Well, the source is that most of the dota 2 players who are interested in e-sports also watch starcraft events(pros tweeting, etc.), and the fact that TL.net is covering dota 2 many starcraft fans tune in to big dota 2 events. I call that hand-holding. | ||
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dtz
5834 Posts
But why they decide to make their own regionals compete with each other is beyond me.At least WCS KR will have its viewers ,so will WCS EU with its awesome storylines ( Stephano's swansong). But WCS NA is in peril. I guess maybe they are relying on people to stay home the whole weekend and have multi streams up. So even if the viewers fall asleep they still get a lot of viewers numbers :p Goodluck Twitch.tv , you'll need it. | ||
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Emzeeshady
Canada4203 Posts
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Koerage
Netherlands1220 Posts
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
TI3 all the way. | ||
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Zeroxk
Norway1244 Posts
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
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Jacmert
Canada1709 Posts
On July 23 2013 05:49 badeanden wrote: I kind of understands why everyone is so angry, but I don't think Blizzard had any choice in their schedueling. They could not have it any of the earlier weekends because of Dreamhack/Asus Rog/IEM. They could no postphone the league finals, because they need to scheduel the season finals. I think people are overreacting, it would be worse if the Season 2 finals crashed. The season 2 finals should be a much better thing anyways, this is only a qualifier (sortof) There is always a choice. Even if you don't feel like there's any way, you still find a way.  ST_Life knows what I'm talking about. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 23 2013 06:11 Zeroxk wrote: Once again TL overreacts Just a little bit, but it is pretty standard. We needed some good drama. In this case, there really isn't a lot of room in August and there is shit going on every weekend. | ||
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Kirsed
9381 Posts
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schaf
Germany1326 Posts
On July 23 2013 06:08 c0ldfusion wrote: Since we're all talking about this now anyway, I just want to throw this question out there, is there actually a big overlap between Dota2 spectators and SC2 spectators? Going by my experience from WC3 and Dota1, I don't expect there to be too much of an intersection between the two. I personally do not watch any MOBAs and my friends who play MOBAs could care less about SC2. Twitch infrastructure aside, a scheduling conflict doesn't matter too much if people mostly watch one or the other exclusively. I'm wondering about that as well. Even if you really are into both games, it's hard anough to have a kind-of-normal life and still follow the SC2 scene. I guess DOTA2's is not much smaller (haha)... I just don't think it's really feasible to follow both games and not leaving out some things (like SPL or, for example a WCS not of your region). And what about weekend-events that have both games? oO | ||
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