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Turbulencedota
Profile Joined October 2012
Romania29 Posts
July 22 2013 21:22 GMT
#181
On July 23 2013 06:16 Drake wrote:
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On July 23 2013 04:28 Finrod1 wrote:
How stupid is this? Many sc2 fans are dota2 fans aswell. I'm not going to miss ti3 so... thats it then.

edit: and we probably cant watch either because twitch will be dead^^


well so many sc2 events we cant look even for OTHER games and i personally dont know any person who watch both (more lol sc2 etc) so ... its impossible to not hit aynthing

i rly rly dont think sc2 should look for dota2 ... i mean really next time we look for football (not handegg) or what ? i mean come on ... sc2 is best and sc2 watchers know if someone have to decide between dota2 and sc2 finals ... thats not a questions guys


not everyone looks through a pipe like you. I wouldnt say the majority of the starcraft fans are diehard hardcore #nothingelse fans
The counter to bad manner is excessive good manner. "Grubby"
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 22 2013 21:22 GMT
#182
On July 23 2013 06:20 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
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On July 23 2013 06:16 Yoshi- wrote:
On July 23 2013 06:02 Random_Guy09 wrote:
On July 23 2013 05:57 Rhaegal wrote:
considering most SC2 fans are also big Dota 2 fans. .

Speak for yourself, I might give TI3 a watch but I couldnt care less about dota.



If only I would kill everyone that responses to a "most people are xxx" question with "well, i am not"


How about backing up random bullshit claims like "most SC2 fans are also big Dota 2 fans" with some factual evidence instead?

Backing up claims with facts is for proviing things in real life. This is the internet, we know things are true and that is just the way it is. Facts are for wusses.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
July 22 2013 21:24 GMT
#183
On July 23 2013 06:22 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 06:20 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On July 23 2013 06:16 Yoshi- wrote:
On July 23 2013 06:02 Random_Guy09 wrote:
On July 23 2013 05:57 Rhaegal wrote:
considering most SC2 fans are also big Dota 2 fans. .

Speak for yourself, I might give TI3 a watch but I couldnt care less about dota.



If only I would kill everyone that responses to a "most people are xxx" question with "well, i am not"


How about backing up random bullshit claims like "most SC2 fans are also big Dota 2 fans" with some factual evidence instead?

Backing up claims with facts is for proviing things in real life. This is the internet, we know things are true and that is just the way it is. Facts are for wusses.


Word.

Sad that many people in this thread hop on the "blizzard r such retard ilek omg" bandwagon instead of reading your posts.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Moltisanti
Profile Joined July 2013
Germany9 Posts
July 22 2013 21:24 GMT
#184
On July 23 2013 05:40 Dodgin wrote:
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On July 23 2013 05:38 Moltisanti wrote:
Whats TL3?


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/The_International/2013


And who the fuck cares? This is a SC2 site, why would we care for a Casualgame tournament? Its not like MLG failed because it was on the same weekend as Evo...

User was temp banned for this post.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
July 22 2013 21:25 GMT
#185
On July 23 2013 06:24 Moltisanti wrote:
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On July 23 2013 05:40 Dodgin wrote:
On July 23 2013 05:38 Moltisanti wrote:
Whats TL3?


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/The_International/2013


And who the fuck cares? This is a SC2 site, why would we care for a Casualgame tournament? Its not like MLG failed because it was on the same weekend as Evo...


Actually this is a Brood War, SC2 and DotA 2 site. ^^
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
July 22 2013 21:25 GMT
#186
Honestly, Dota tends to have enough downtime and SC2 tends to go quickly enough that I'm not super worried about overlap. Twitch servers are going to be crying blood for certain, but DotaTV should at least take some of that load off if things get bad.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Turbulencedota
Profile Joined October 2012
Romania29 Posts
July 22 2013 21:26 GMT
#187
On July 23 2013 06:20 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 06:16 Yoshi- wrote:
On July 23 2013 06:02 Random_Guy09 wrote:
On July 23 2013 05:57 Rhaegal wrote:
considering most SC2 fans are also big Dota 2 fans. .

Speak for yourself, I might give TI3 a watch but I couldnt care less about dota.



If only I would kill everyone that responses to a "most people are xxx" question with "well, i am not"


How about backing up random bullshit claims like "most SC2 fans are also big Dota 2 fans" with some factual evidence instead?


I believe viewernumbers will provide you enough evidence. If not even that, nothing can prove that to you
The counter to bad manner is excessive good manner. "Grubby"
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
July 22 2013 21:26 GMT
#188
On July 23 2013 06:22 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 06:20 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On July 23 2013 06:16 Yoshi- wrote:
On July 23 2013 06:02 Random_Guy09 wrote:
On July 23 2013 05:57 Rhaegal wrote:
considering most SC2 fans are also big Dota 2 fans. .

Speak for yourself, I might give TI3 a watch but I couldnt care less about dota.



If only I would kill everyone that responses to a "most people are xxx" question with "well, i am not"


How about backing up random bullshit claims like "most SC2 fans are also big Dota 2 fans" with some factual evidence instead?

Backing up claims with facts is for proviing things in real life. This is the internet, we know things are true and that is just the way it is. Facts are for wusses.


And still even when the original claim is not true, any response like "well i am not" is just senseless.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 22 2013 21:26 GMT
#189
On July 23 2013 06:24 Moltisanti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 05:40 Dodgin wrote:
On July 23 2013 05:38 Moltisanti wrote:
Whats TL3?


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/The_International/2013


And who the fuck cares? This is a SC2 site, why would we care for a Casualgame tournament? Its not like MLG failed because it was on the same weekend as Evo...

WTF are you talking about. Team Liquid has a Dota 2 team in THE INTERNATIONAL! Did you wonder what all those stories were that were not about SC2 were?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
July 22 2013 21:26 GMT
#190
This is such a bad idea for so many reasons... I love starcraft, but I can't watch it for 16 hours straight. Having all 3 in the same weekend will make it impossible to follow all of them at once for most fans... and competing with TI3... yes, in fact, starcraft fans are also frequently dota fans.
Team Liquid, IM, ViOlet!
Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-22 21:28:06
July 22 2013 21:27 GMT
#191
I actually think this will be fun. I will buy a shitload of food and just stay inside watching all games for 20+ hours.

And who cares about dota?


On July 23 2013 06:26 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 06:24 Moltisanti wrote:
On July 23 2013 05:40 Dodgin wrote:
On July 23 2013 05:38 Moltisanti wrote:
Whats TL3?


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/The_International/2013


And who the fuck cares? This is a SC2 site, why would we care for a Casualgame tournament? Its not like MLG failed because it was on the same weekend as Evo...

WTF are you talking about. Team Liquid has a Dota 2 team in THE INTERNATIONAL! Did you wonder what all those stories were that were not about SC2 were?


Many people have excluded Dota news. I didn't even know TL had a Dota team before now.
rsol in response to the dragoon voice being heard in SCII: dragoon ai reaches new lows: wanders into wrong game
durrrrr
Profile Joined August 2012
Bulgaria106 Posts
July 22 2013 21:27 GMT
#192
On July 23 2013 06:24 Moltisanti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 05:40 Dodgin wrote:
On July 23 2013 05:38 Moltisanti wrote:
Whats TL3?


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/The_International/2013


And who the fuck cares? This is a SC2 site, why would we care for a Casualgame tournament? Its not like MLG failed because it was on the same weekend as Evo...


Dota casualgame.. ok buddy u seem to know alot.
durrrrr?
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-22 21:28:42
July 22 2013 21:28 GMT
#193
On July 23 2013 06:26 Turbulencedota wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 06:20 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On July 23 2013 06:16 Yoshi- wrote:
On July 23 2013 06:02 Random_Guy09 wrote:
On July 23 2013 05:57 Rhaegal wrote:
considering most SC2 fans are also big Dota 2 fans. .

Speak for yourself, I might give TI3 a watch but I couldnt care less about dota.



If only I would kill everyone that responses to a "most people are xxx" question with "well, i am not"


How about backing up random bullshit claims like "most SC2 fans are also big Dota 2 fans" with some factual evidence instead?


I believe viewernumbers will provide you enough evidence. If not even that, nothing can prove that to you


How? DotA 2's viewer base is already many times bigger. How do you know if SC2 getting, let's say, 20k viewers less on average during the whole event is going to be due to them watching TI3 instead of technical issues with Twitch or something completely different like being away on holiday or something? How can you prove that beyond shadow of a doubt?

And even then, a 10-20k decrease in viewership would still be far less than "most SC2 fans", as I'm sure you're well aware.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 22 2013 21:29 GMT
#194
On July 23 2013 06:27 Arnstein wrote:
I actually think this will be fun. I will buy a shitload of food and just stay inside watching all games for 20+ hours.

And who cares about dota?


Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 06:26 Plansix wrote:
On July 23 2013 06:24 Moltisanti wrote:
On July 23 2013 05:40 Dodgin wrote:
On July 23 2013 05:38 Moltisanti wrote:
Whats TL3?


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/The_International/2013


And who the fuck cares? This is a SC2 site, why would we care for a Casualgame tournament? Its not like MLG failed because it was on the same weekend as Evo...

WTF are you talking about. Team Liquid has a Dota 2 team in THE INTERNATIONAL! Did you wonder what all those stories were that were not about SC2 were?


Many people have excluded Dota news. I didn't even know TL had a Dota team before now.

I kinda do and my social life as well. The girlfriend will not approve of 20 hours of SC2 followed by the TI3. She would be totally into one, but both is asking for trouble.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Taku
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada2036 Posts
July 22 2013 21:29 GMT
#195
This is kinda bad because Blizzard is showing how amateur they are in pulling this stunt, I wonder how sponsors and other organizations will feel about this.
When SC2 came for BW, I cried. Now LoL/Dota2 comes for SC2, and I laugh. \o/
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8324 Posts
July 22 2013 21:30 GMT
#196
On July 23 2013 06:26 Turbulencedota wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 06:20 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On July 23 2013 06:16 Yoshi- wrote:
On July 23 2013 06:02 Random_Guy09 wrote:
On July 23 2013 05:57 Rhaegal wrote:
considering most SC2 fans are also big Dota 2 fans. .

Speak for yourself, I might give TI3 a watch but I couldnt care less about dota.



If only I would kill everyone that responses to a "most people are xxx" question with "well, i am not"


How about backing up random bullshit claims like "most SC2 fans are also big Dota 2 fans" with some factual evidence instead?


I believe viewernumbers will provide you enough evidence. If not even that, nothing can prove that to you


Speaking as another SC2 fan who isn't a dota fan (though I'm sure it's a great game), how on earth can you figure that? How will you know if the viewers of one are the viewers of another by simply the numbers alone?

The fact of the matter is you have given zero evidence to support your claim.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
theking1
Profile Joined June 2013
Romania658 Posts
July 22 2013 21:32 GMT
#197
i do not mind sc2 being on the same time as the international.I am quite used to watching both the lcs and the wcs at the same time.The only thing that is bothersome is that twitch will be unwatchable in europe during the international3.They are barely watchable during dreamhack valencia.I do not mind watching 2 esports at the same time.It is quite fun but twitch will be impossible to watch.Exclusive contract with twitch was a bad idea for blizzard.Youtubelive and azubu do not lag at all during the lcs
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
July 22 2013 21:33 GMT
#198
On July 23 2013 06:19 Jacmert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 06:08 c0ldfusion wrote:
On July 23 2013 06:03 nihlon wrote:
On July 23 2013 05:57 Rhaegal wrote:
Am I the only one that doesn't understand the shitstorm? What's the big deal...

They can hold their tournament whenever they want, why care about a tournament for another game.

Of course they CAN. But why they should care is pretty obvious.


Since we're all talking about this now anyway, I just want to throw this question out there, is there actually a big overlap between Dota2 spectators and SC2 spectators?

Part of the point of Blizzard supporting esports and WCS is because they want to ATTRACT new viewers to their game. Blizzard isn't planning on making any significant money on stream revenue and viewer count. Blizzard is counting on esports maintaining and growing the SC2 fan base so that people: a) Buy SC2/HotS; b) Will buy LotV when it finally comes out; and c) To some extent, grow to like the Blizzard brand more and consider buying their other products.

So, Blizzard doesn't gain anything from people keeping the stream open in the background, for example. Blizzard needs to win mindshare, and I think this is very counter-productive (by killing a lot of the hype for WCS by triple-booking themselves on one weekend and then also trying to compete with TI3 for viewership while simultaneously giving up any chance of pulling in a DOTA2 player who might consider checking out this WCS thing if it were on any other weekend).


Fair enough. This is very sound argument from Blizzard's standpoint.
I was speaking more from the perspective of existing fans.

We still need a poll in the OP or something to see how many people follow both games on this site.
nucLeaRTV
Profile Joined May 2011
Romania822 Posts
July 22 2013 21:33 GMT
#199
Blizzard, what?!
"Having your own haters means you are famous"
whoso
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany523 Posts
July 22 2013 21:33 GMT
#200
On July 23 2013 06:30 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 06:26 Turbulencedota wrote:
On July 23 2013 06:20 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On July 23 2013 06:16 Yoshi- wrote:
On July 23 2013 06:02 Random_Guy09 wrote:
On July 23 2013 05:57 Rhaegal wrote:
considering most SC2 fans are also big Dota 2 fans. .

Speak for yourself, I might give TI3 a watch but I couldnt care less about dota.



If only I would kill everyone that responses to a "most people are xxx" question with "well, i am not"


How about backing up random bullshit claims like "most SC2 fans are also big Dota 2 fans" with some factual evidence instead?


I believe viewernumbers will provide you enough evidence. If not even that, nothing can prove that to you


Speaking as another SC2 fan who isn't a dota fan (though I'm sure it's a great game), how on earth can you figure that? How will you know if the viewers of one are the viewers of another by simply the numbers alone?

The fact of the matter is you have given zero evidence to support your claim.


for competent statisticians, it should be possible to some extent to explore the impact of TI3 on WCS viewership and vice versa.
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