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canikizu
4860 Posts
On July 17 2013 05:48 NonY wrote: So many SC2 pros that have played LoL but no one knows because they don't want everyone to know haha Do you play LoL or Dota2? | ||
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Shadowpostin
Germany798 Posts
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NonY
8751 Posts
I played LoL during season one and then took a long break from it and then played a short burst near the start of season two. I watch some personal streams and some tournament streams occasionally. Aphromoo is my fav I played Dota2 a little bit but lost motivation while becoming familiar with the heroes and items. I watched a bunch of Liquid's matches when they first got a Dota2 team even though I didn't understand much of what was happening and eventually I lost interest in that too. | ||
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Nourek
Germany188 Posts
On July 17 2013 05:48 NonY wrote: So many SC2 pros that have played LoL but no one knows because they don't want everyone to know haha Do you think if more SC2 pros were open about this (this seems so silly to say, haha), it would calm relations between the communities? | ||
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tshi
United States2495 Posts
On July 17 2013 06:07 Nourek wrote: Do you think if more SC2 pros were open about this (this seems so silly to say, haha), it would calm relations between the communities? It's the eSports equivalent of coming out of the closet haha. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On July 17 2013 05:48 NonY wrote: So many SC2 pros that have played LoL but no one knows because they don't want everyone to know haha + Show Spoiler + This is what first popped into my head when I read that. Is LoL the new "coming-out"? First the Rainbow TL logo; now this thread. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 17 2013 06:09 wei2coolman wrote: + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPDcwjJ8pLg This is what first popped into my head when I read that. Is LoL the new "coming-out"? First the Rainbow TL logo; now this thread. That could be super fun and funny, but I don't think the community could handle it. We can't have nice things after all. | ||
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NonY
8751 Posts
On July 17 2013 06:07 Nourek wrote: Do you think if more SC2 pros were open about this (this seems so silly to say, haha), it would calm relations between the communities? No idea. When SC2 players actually switched games professionally, there were many toxic reactions on both sides (SC2 bitter, LoL gloating). This would be a sort of miniature version of that and it could go either way. If things were going well, I think it might help move things along in a positive direction. But it's not as simple as that for SC2 progamers. Ignoring any bickering between LoL and SC2, there are some fans of progamers who just don't want to hear about their favorite players "wasting time" on other games, no matter the context. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 17 2013 06:18 NonY wrote: No idea. When SC2 players actually switched games professionally, there were many toxic reactions on both sides (SC2 bitter, LoL gloating). This would be a sort of miniature version of that and it could go either way. If things were going well, I think it might help move things along in a positive direction. But it's not as simple as that for SC2 progamers. Ignoring any bickering between LoL and SC2, there are some fans of progamers who just don't want to hear about their favorite players "wasting time" on other games, no matter the context. Its totally weird, because the player could have an awesome pass time like "cooking" or "playing guitar" and there would be no problems. Or the all important pass time of "having a wife" and no one gets upset. But you touch LoL, Dota 2 or CoD and everyone is up in arms. | ||
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vesicular
United States1310 Posts
People's over inflated sense of self is a great motivator. | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
On July 17 2013 06:26 vesicular wrote: If you want MOBA people to play SC2 it's pretty easy. Just ask them if they're tired of always carrying their team (since everyone thinks they're the reason the team wins and everyone else is an idiot) and to ditch the dead weight and do it up 1v1 in Starcraft. People's over inflated sense of self is a great motivator. But then most of them realize that they aren't as good as they thought and go back to the reassuring though of " It wasn't my fault, my team is terrible" | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10877 Posts
The feeling of blaming your team non stop, stops after you played for some time, it's honestly a dumb argument. After some time you realised when you screwed up had an off game... i personally sometimes even apologize to my teammates. The flaming also isn't happening as often... On the other side... If i'm hangover as fuck i know can't play Dota 2 as i could not play WC3 or SC2 because it's not fun when you realise how terrible you play ^^. | ||
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Nourek
Germany188 Posts
On July 17 2013 06:30 Noocta wrote: But then most of them realize that they aren't as good as they thought and go back to the reassuring though of " It wasn't my fault, my team is terrible" Eh. For the most part, the people that would blame their teammates 24/7 in LoL or DotA are the same sort that blame balance or cheese in SC2 while being in silver where none of that really matters. | ||
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IcedBacon
Canada906 Posts
StarCraft and the MOBAs can co-exist peacefully, but I really don't think Dota and LoL can ever do that considering LoL is based completely off Dota and is essentially a simplified version. | ||
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Rassy
Netherlands2308 Posts
Why is this so important for esports? Real life spots have fragmented communities as well and there its not seen as a problem. Some people like basketball, others american football, some others like swimming or european soccer. You cant expect esport fans to get into every new game hype there is,esports fans also have a job or school or other real life activities. People have their favorite games and there is nothing wrong with that. Is it just to get more vieuwers for all games? esports is still relativly small compared to real life sports,and if everyone who watched sc would also watch lol and dota, and vice versa there would be alot bigger audience for all of the games but you cant force this upon the people and i dont think the community should strive for it either. There is only one way to make all esport lovers support a game, and that is to make a game so awesome that it somehow apeals to everyone. But this seems an impossible task since people like different things. The twist between communities is something imaginary i feel btw, and maybe only felt by the hard core fans. The majority of the casual watchers have no problem with dota and the dota community or whatever other game, they completely dont care for wich game is the "most difficult" just like they are not interested if basketball has a higher skill ceiling then baseball lol. Up till this thread i wasnt even aware that there is so much rivalry between games, and i still feel its not real. A vocal hardcore group of fans might feel like this and because they are vocal one might start to think the whole community is like that, but thats not the case at all. Annyway:I wont go study lol or dota to be able to vieuw the games, just like i am not getting into american football or golf. I like tennis, soccer and cycling and thats more then enough for me. Esports should be happy with the fans they have for every tittle and to get more fans they should just make a game that is interesting and fun to watch and play for a verry broad audience and wich requires no excessive study to be able to understand it and have fun while watching it. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On July 17 2013 06:08 tshi wrote: It's the eSports equivalent of coming out of the closet haha. No it isn't because a stupid amount of people have tried it for whatever reasons. Them vocalizing it isn't going to change anything rofl. | ||
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NonY
8751 Posts
On July 17 2013 07:12 StarStruck wrote: No it isn't because a stupid amount of people have tried it for whatever reasons. Them vocalizing it isn't going to change anything rofl. I didn't mean just trying it. | ||
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Rassy
Netherlands2308 Posts
The best thing would be to just completely ignore it, instead of devoting a whole thread. Though i have to admit this thread is about more things, i still think you give a small group to much credit. Theory 2 seems false btw People dont fear the unknown, just like people who like basketball and are not interested in american footbal are not afraid of the unknown, the reason is much more simple. People simply dont like certain games and they do like certain other games. You cant ask from people to study a game to get to like it,if people like the game they will study it!. People watch esports for their pleasure, not because they have to put work in it. I am not afraid of studying dota and getting to know the game, i simply dont want to because after looking into it a bit it didnt apeal to me at all. | ||
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aksfjh
United States4853 Posts
"I'm not a LoL player! I'm just LoL-curious!" | ||
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
besides broodwar is the only game that is actually hard Thank you Idra, for still having faith in brood war | ||
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