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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
July 09 2013 04:04 GMT
#61
Anyone who doesn't say zerg is crazy, the only time balance whine from anyone came close to zerg players is during the dark ages of BW PvZ, before Bisu made it playable (protoss players were so fucking horrible at PvZ before that with the exception of nal_ra and maybe 1 or 2 others).

It makes sense for zerg to feel the most victimized tho, its a reactionary race that relies on fast expanding 100% of the time, and the other races (well, terrans anyway) gameplan revolves around fucking with their shit constantly... Zerg players who arent constantly annoyed are either really good or masochists most likely!
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
KingAce
Profile Joined September 2010
United States471 Posts
July 09 2013 04:05 GMT
#62
From my observation throughout SC2, protoss players complain the least. That's because protoss players are usually mentally different from the other two races. Most manly? Yes. And we know that Blizzard will never fix our race. (removing warpgates)

However, Terran and Zerg have dominated the game in longer stretches than protoss ever has. So this looks pretty bad for the attitude of Zerg and Terran players.
"You're defined by the WORST of your group..." Bill Burr
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
July 09 2013 04:08 GMT
#63
Of course zergs. They whined about being underpowered with broodlord winfestor, most of them complained that they had to split their units against a vortex
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
July 09 2013 04:11 GMT
#64
On July 09 2013 13:05 KingAce wrote:
From my observation throughout SC2, protoss players complain the least. That's because protoss players are usually mentally different from the other two races. Most manly? Yes. And we know that Blizzard will never fix our race. (removing warpgates)

However, Terran and Zerg have dominated the game in longer stretches than protoss ever has. So this looks pretty bad for the attitude of Zerg and Terran players.

Toss players cried unreal hard about 1/1/1.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
July 09 2013 04:11 GMT
#65
Protoss have much more build orders to work with while Zerg cannot dictate the game as much, unless it is a zergling all-in or a bust while Protoss can have relatively safer (but not ultimately) builds that can punish.

Terran, on the other hand, can dictate the midgame with drops, mapcontrolling units such as hellions and Widow Mines, etc.

Zerg do not have that great of a luxury and have to play on top of their game to make the best decision as possible.
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Kim Hyuna
Profile Joined March 2013
Korea (South)264 Posts
July 09 2013 04:16 GMT
#66
On July 09 2013 13:11 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 13:05 KingAce wrote:
From my observation throughout SC2, protoss players complain the least. That's because protoss players are usually mentally different from the other two races. Most manly? Yes. And we know that Blizzard will never fix our race. (removing warpgates)

However, Terran and Zerg have dominated the game in longer stretches than protoss ever has. So this looks pretty bad for the attitude of Zerg and Terran players.

Toss players cried unreal hard about 1/1/1.


This.

With banshee cloak buff, i'm sure i'll see tons of 1/1/1 abuse on ladder since siege no longer required tech lab plus the timing before cloak significantly improved.
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Venomsflame
Profile Joined February 2011
United States613 Posts
July 09 2013 04:21 GMT
#67
On July 09 2013 13:16 Kim Hyuna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 13:11 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On July 09 2013 13:05 KingAce wrote:
From my observation throughout SC2, protoss players complain the least. That's because protoss players are usually mentally different from the other two races. Most manly? Yes. And we know that Blizzard will never fix our race. (removing warpgates)

However, Terran and Zerg have dominated the game in longer stretches than protoss ever has. So this looks pretty bad for the attitude of Zerg and Terran players.

Toss players cried unreal hard about 1/1/1.


This.

With banshee cloak buff, i'm sure i'll see tons of 1/1/1 abuse on ladder since siege no longer required tech lab plus the timing before cloak significantly improved.


This might sound weird but as a protoss player I'm pretty excited to be facing different variants of 1-1-1 again. Should be fun!
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
July 09 2013 04:21 GMT
#68
On July 09 2013 12:58 Rabiator wrote:
Stupid polls, because they are influenced subjectively by IdrA being the one and only never to be reached master of complaining about other races. His "apologize for playing that race" is legendary and makes any other complaining people disappear. Apart from that I dont really see the point, because we can only say "which race complains" if we know the player and the race he plays.

It's got almost nothing to do with that lol. If you've ever played zerg a ton of your losses come out of absolutely nowhere, and it's frustrating as hell. Really it's the only reason I started playing terran, the mechanical difficulty is pretty much the same for both zerg and terran, and I feel about a million times safer against most things.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 09 2013 04:26 GMT
#69
On July 09 2013 13:16 Kim Hyuna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 13:11 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On July 09 2013 13:05 KingAce wrote:
From my observation throughout SC2, protoss players complain the least. That's because protoss players are usually mentally different from the other two races. Most manly? Yes. And we know that Blizzard will never fix our race. (removing warpgates)

However, Terran and Zerg have dominated the game in longer stretches than protoss ever has. So this looks pretty bad for the attitude of Zerg and Terran players.

Toss players cried unreal hard about 1/1/1.


This.

With banshee cloak buff, i'm sure i'll see tons of 1/1/1 abuse on ladder since siege no longer required tech lab plus the timing before cloak significantly improved.

And then our cries were silenced by the slow build of the terran screams of imbalance, that blanketed the community and still echo through the halls to this day.
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seansye
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1722 Posts
July 09 2013 04:27 GMT
#70
On July 09 2013 13:11 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 13:05 KingAce wrote:
From my observation throughout SC2, protoss players complain the least. That's because protoss players are usually mentally different from the other two races. Most manly? Yes. And we know that Blizzard will never fix our race. (removing warpgates)

However, Terran and Zerg have dominated the game in longer stretches than protoss ever has. So this looks pretty bad for the attitude of Zerg and Terran players.

Toss players cried unreal hard about 1/1/1.


Because 1-1-1 almost made toss extinct in GSL. Remember when there were 20+ terrans like 3 GSL's in a row?
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
July 09 2013 04:30 GMT
#71
On July 09 2013 13:27 seansye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 13:11 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On July 09 2013 13:05 KingAce wrote:
From my observation throughout SC2, protoss players complain the least. That's because protoss players are usually mentally different from the other two races. Most manly? Yes. And we know that Blizzard will never fix our race. (removing warpgates)

However, Terran and Zerg have dominated the game in longer stretches than protoss ever has. So this looks pretty bad for the attitude of Zerg and Terran players.

Toss players cried unreal hard about 1/1/1.


Because 1-1-1 almost made toss extinct in GSL. Remember when there were 20+ terrans like 3 GSL's in a row?

It's ok, huk had the answer!
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
July 09 2013 04:33 GMT
#72
On July 09 2013 13:27 seansye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 13:11 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On July 09 2013 13:05 KingAce wrote:
From my observation throughout SC2, protoss players complain the least. That's because protoss players are usually mentally different from the other two races. Most manly? Yes. And we know that Blizzard will never fix our race. (removing warpgates)

However, Terran and Zerg have dominated the game in longer stretches than protoss ever has. So this looks pretty bad for the attitude of Zerg and Terran players.

Toss players cried unreal hard about 1/1/1.


Because 1-1-1 almost made toss extinct in GSL. Remember when there were 20+ terrans like 3 GSL's in a row?

Looks like jinro opened the memory floodgates and the protoss crying is beginning again!
9-BiT
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1089 Posts
July 09 2013 04:39 GMT
#73
Zergs never got over themself, they haven't ever realized they aren't the weakest race anymore.
kwark_uk: @father_sc learn to play maybe?
midnight999
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States257 Posts
July 09 2013 04:41 GMT
#74
Zergs bitching even with BL/Infestor was crossing the line...
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
July 09 2013 04:52 GMT
#75
On July 09 2013 13:41 jkim91 wrote:
Zergs bitching even with BL/Infestor was crossing the line...

You kind of had to survive until BL/infestor though.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16126 Posts
July 09 2013 04:52 GMT
#76
On July 09 2013 13:11 hansonslee wrote:
Protoss have much more build orders to work with while Zerg cannot dictate the game as much, unless it is a zergling all-in or a bust while Protoss can have relatively safer (but not ultimately) builds that can punish.

Terran, on the other hand, can dictate the midgame with drops, mapcontrolling units such as hellions and Widow Mines, etc.

Zerg do not have that great of a luxury and have to play on top of their game to make the best decision as possible.


The flip side of this is that if Terrans CAN'T dictate the midgame then they usually have huge disadvantages in the late game due to the way their macro works and the relative weakness of their higher tech units.

This is why you never see Terrans simply sit back and macro endlessly the way you see Protoss or Zergs play. A passive Terran is a dead Terran, it's a whole other level of frustration.
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phyren
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1067 Posts
July 09 2013 04:52 GMT
#77
I remember zergs bming me and crying imba when I won on ladder even during the height of bl/infestor bullshit. And these were top masters/gm players who I would have thought knew the game enough to at least objectively realize that was op.

Protoss players, on the other hand, balance whine by signing up for the sad zealot fan club. It's much less obnoxious and gives one more of a sense of community.
KingAce
Profile Joined September 2010
United States471 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-09 04:58:06
July 09 2013 04:55 GMT
#78
On July 09 2013 13:11 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 13:05 KingAce wrote:
From my observation throughout SC2, protoss players complain the least. That's because protoss players are usually mentally different from the other two races. Most manly? Yes. And we know that Blizzard will never fix our race. (removing warpgates)

However, Terran and Zerg have dominated the game in longer stretches than protoss ever has. So this looks pretty bad for the attitude of Zerg and Terran players.

Toss players cried unreal hard about 1/1/1.


Oh I remember that. Hurts actually, really still hurts. I don't think I have ever forgiven Terrans. In BW I always cheered against zerg. In SC2 I just want Terrans to fail everytime. I really hate this new Terran race.

I still want a balanced game though. Unbalanced wins IMO are empty victories.
"You're defined by the WORST of your group..." Bill Burr
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
July 09 2013 04:59 GMT
#79
On July 09 2013 13:52 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 13:41 jkim91 wrote:
Zergs bitching even with BL/Infestor was crossing the line...

You kind of had to survive until BL/infestor though.


You make it sound like it was a rare event to survive to that point Lol.

midnight999
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States257 Posts
July 09 2013 05:03 GMT
#80
On July 09 2013 13:52 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 13:41 jkim91 wrote:
Zergs bitching even with BL/Infestor was crossing the line...

You kind of had to survive until BL/infestor though.


...which is not that hard to do tbh.
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