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On June 27 2013 17:17 Caihead wrote: Some day we might have interviews of public celebrity personalities that involve questions about their personal philosophy and world view, some day... Ah, well, there's a reason they don't do that much. Trust me, you really don't want to hear what Tom Brady or Kim Kardashian think about world politics or philosophy...
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On June 27 2013 06:27 niteReloaded wrote: People like Innovation are introverts. (well duh, yeah?) My point is, these interview questions sucked for a personality like that. What are your hobbies? Who do you hang out with? Do you like TV? -.-
Ask him about his philosophy of life. Ask him about his country of South Korea and tension with North Korea. Introverts have a developed inner world, you just need to know how to reach it. Sorry Wax, but IMO almost no person is boring, if it seems that way, the interviewer failed. Everyone has something that makes him tick, and gives him passion, you just gotta undig it.
What are you getting at? I'm a free-wheeling and dealing extrovert and I have nothing against him. I have no problem accepting people for what they are. Not projecting, so please don't generalize. I agree that it is up to the interviewer to keep a good conversation going. That's why you see guys like George Stroumboulopoulos and Rick Campanelli move forward after they were done at Much Music Canada. They're both really good at doing research and connecting with every celebrity/band/etc. It's not easy being a great interviewer. It's takes a lot of time and practice. Something a lot of people can learn when it comes their podcasts and stuff like this. Wax has a strong foundation because he's been in the scene for so frigging long, so he knows his shit. That doesn't mean he's going to be really good at getting certain individuals to come out of their shell. That's more of a Hot_Bid thing to do. Still you have to find a way to get those who are uncomfortable with the given situation comfortable and that's not always easy when it comes to certain individuals. Not to say that makes them a boring person, but it takes work.
On June 27 2013 14:50 eviltomahawk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 14:34 docvoc wrote: Im still surprised he admitted to disliking BW. I was expecting a few kespa pros to say that, but Bogus was a really strong player, and for him to say that is a bit revealing to how the pros really felt, now that BW has ended. I'm actually not surprised to hear him say that. I recall reading one or two BW interviews a while back where the players question their passion for the game. No matter how fun the game, the jump between it being a hobby and it being a job will strain one's enjoyment of it over time. I wouldn't be surprised to see players question their enjoyment when facing losses or slumps, and though Bogus was a strong player with a lot of potential in BW, he wasn't quite TBLS level which might be connected to whatever frustrations he had with the game or his personal performance in it.
That's what happens when players are struggling to find their identities in a game and you start questioning yourself without results. Even when you find success (this has been a problem for many players which includes everyone from Stephano, HuK, NaDa, etc. you can go down the line) the passion and drive will test you. It becomes work not only to make it to the top but to stay there. There have been several interviews with the KeSPA players that I can recall including XellOs, NaDa and Bisu where they lost their motivation and drive. It's hard work and work isn't always fun. If you loss your passion it's really hard to collect yourself and regain what you lost. Not easy pressing the reset button. That's why I tell others to always set new and exciting goals to keep things fresh. Even if it's a small goal. You have to set yourself up in order to succeed and re-motivate yourself.
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His comments about fans and fan reactions made me think of Sasquatch's article about common misconceptions about foreigner teams.
Outside of a few pros, almost every player I know reads reddit/TL threads about matches they played in to see what fans said, and some will even go as far as to watch vods of their own matches just to see what commentators said about them during the games. If you tweet a player they will for sure read it and some (A LOT) search their names on TL to see where their names are popping up.
Now, it's not my intention to make a sweeping generalization about koreans versus foreigners. But I think this highlights that perhaps SOME foreign pros are stuck at a lower level of play because they're in the pro scene for superficial reasons to begin with. Of course you can show some appreciation for your fans without being a sucker for attention, but it's still something to think about.
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On June 28 2013 04:26 adius wrote:His comments about fans and fan reactions made me think of Sasquatch's article about common misconceptions about foreigner teams. Show nested quote +Outside of a few pros, almost every player I know reads reddit/TL threads about matches they played in to see what fans said, and some will even go as far as to watch vods of their own matches just to see what commentators said about them during the games. If you tweet a player they will for sure read it and some (A LOT) search their names on TL to see where their names are popping up. Now, it's not my intention to make a sweeping generalization about koreans versus foreigners. But I think this highlights that perhaps SOME foreign pros are stuck at a lower level of play because they're in the pro scene for superficial reasons to begin with. Of course you can show some appreciation for your fans without being a sucker for attention, but it's still something to think about.
That's the problem with looking for confirmation/positive reinforcement and it's goes way beyond the professional gaming scene. It can be very hard to block out a lot of the shit you see and that's why living in a bubble/keeping your interactions with the community (like doing very little streaming *cough, wink, wink, nudge, nudge) can be viewed as a good thing. Especially when most opinions don't matter and focusing on yourself is a good thing. As for the rest of his blog, those are all relatively obvious things if you've been or followed the scene long enough. We know these things. They date back to BW. That's why I say setting attainable/realistic goals are a good thing and not to aim for the moon. They're all building blocks to create success for the future. I guess I should make this relevant to the thread because we're sort of getting offtrack. Innovation has a very good mindset to continue to succeed considering he says he blocks most of the fluff out and focuses on the task at hand. The lost to Soulkey didn't bother him and I look forward to seeing how he plans on staying on top of the pack that's chasing him.
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This guy has so much soul.
I love his focus though, can't wait to see more from him
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Am I the only one who liked this interview? Yea the answers are short, but it at least reflect his person not like some other dudes who just tell you what you want to hear <- that is boring!!
I read excited through it, and I didn't even look on the watch - if you know what I mean 
He is really honest. You can see how everything connects lol. And you can see how he treats sc2 as a job and how committed he is... He might be "boring" but looking at him as at an object it's kinda interesting to read about that kind of person.
Besides, while being THE BEST in the world PERHAPS you don't have that much time for movies and stuff!? Going out for a walk is probably one of the few things he can do and it's required - moving once a day for 30 minutes is required :D
Maybe he watches movies even, but didn't tell you cause he doesn't consider it as a hobby
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On June 27 2013 18:03 niteReloaded wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 15:43 GolemMadness wrote:On June 27 2013 07:51 niteReloaded wrote:On June 27 2013 07:32 GolemMadness wrote:On June 27 2013 06:25 nuogaiyen wrote: Lol if I was in his shoes I would probably do the same, he doesn't bring home the bacon by watching movies and telling the world about his spectacular hobbies. He brings home the bacon by simply winning. Charlie Sheen bitches!! The guy is an iceman like chuck Liddell or Kimi Raikkonen. The guy wants to be the best and doesn't waste his time. I would respect that. Don't know why people are calling him a lame robot? This is a sport, if you want personality go watch Disney. Introverts don't have hobbies...? Imo Innovation is a super cool human. But the interview was not tailored well to his personality. It's like you talked to Tesla about football and what he thinks the best play of the season was? He'd reply 'i don't care, I don't watch football'. Then you ask about girls and he replies he's celibate for life. You'd think he's a weirdo and boring, and the guy is chaining lightings. I just get a feeling Innovation's mind is super sharp, he has his own approach to life and isn't affected much by other people's opinions. A big chance was wasted by asking 'wrong' questions. On what are you basing this? He essentially says that he has no interests outside of Starcraft 2 and isn't active socially. Outside of questions regarding Starcraft 2 strategy or something, what can you really ask him to make him sound interesting? Im basing it on myself, and people similar to me who were greater than me, but would answer to those questions similarly to Innovation at that age. I know I wouldn't be able to passionately answer to those questions. But I would be a little more 'polite' and try to answer a bit more colorfully. However, notice that I'm draining my energy that way, as I don't really wanna answer trivial questions that make me yawn. (But since Innovation doesn't give a fuck what people think of him, he just responded how he felt.) However, I'm VERY passionate about other things in life, which many normal people find 'unneccessary complications of life'. Spirituality being one topic for example.
On June 27 2013 03:05 Snijjer wrote: Idk whats the deal with people talking about how boring this was. It was a good interview, I particularly like his thoughts on how his 'mediocre' play during BW was just part of the process of becoming a good player. A lot of people seem to be reading the interviews and not comprehending what they're reading.
Also the interview questions were pretty poor...
"Isn't it nice though, to read praise when you've played a good game?" Interviewer is asking the same question as before a second time trying to get a different answer.
"A lot of foreign players say they at least make sure to rewatch the games they've won. How about you?" Third variation of a question this time poised as everyone else vs him.
"Some players like to keep up on a lot of tournaments, whether they're Korean or international. How about you? Do you watch a lot of games?" Another dividing question.
"So your main goal then, all it is is winning championships?" Dripping in a 'that's it?' tone.
Overall I think that what people are finding 'boring' about him is the fact that he doesn't have the same interests as them. He's not interested in TV shows, movies or pop culture in general. He is interested in walks. I personally think people who enjoy walking are more interesting than those who enjoy watching TV shows.
"But they know Innovation very deeply, that's why they say he's boring, and how boring someone is can be easily assessed." don't you hear it in your minds? I've been told once "when you call someone 'boring', you are calling yourself 'boring'", and that actually aplies to other subjective qualities.
My thought is that Innovation is the one profiting from this interview.
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this guys a fucking god or some shit jesus. how do u have that mind set
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Hmm... So he IS a robot. I had a feeling..
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