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WCS AM Season 2 to be run by NASL and Blizzard - Page 18

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neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
June 18 2013 21:30 GMT
#341
On June 19 2013 05:35 Dosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2013 04:53 BlueFlames wrote:
On June 19 2013 04:04 Empirimancer wrote:
Oh thank Blizzard!



Are you shitting me ... people thank Blizzard?

If Blizzards game-developers were as bad as their E-sports division they would be out of business by now. Blizzards decision surrounding the SC2 scene were horrible and bad for almost anyone involved. The only reason WCS was not a disaster is because of ESL/OGN/Gom. If the incompetent people at Blizzard keep fucking up the SC2 scene like they did the past couple of weeks, there will be a lot of people that could lose their jobs.

Lets sum up the greate things WCS gave the SC2-community.
- Messing up the entire NA-scene. Not only did they fuck over the players, but they seemed to not care about NASL almost having to leave the SC2 scene for good. Lets not mention hindering MLG at producing at what they are good at. Tournaments that gave NA-players a chance and brought the spotlight of the whole SC-2 scene on NA. At this point i miss a good weekend tournament by MLG. I want Dreamhack weekends and i want MLG weekends again.

- Deciding on a WCS-format a few weeks before the product had to be ready, screwing over every organisation producing it, especially ESL who were the first to start the league i think. ESL did a good job, but i dont think the working conditions for them were really that good.
- No IEM events in a long time. A tournament that also gives regions and countries a chance that arent that big yet and that triy to actively promote regional players.

- Messing with the free market in korea by enforcing two corporations to work together. If not for Blizzard Gom would probably be dead and OGN and KESPA would be running the show. Blizzards constant messing in this matter boggles my mind.

My thoughts are a bit unorganised at the momement, but i think everyone knows that the sc2-scene was at a reasonably good spot before WSC. Blizzard came in and fucked up big time. So please for the love of god thank the companies that were interested in supporting e-sports and the starcraft community all the years blizzard ignored it and thank the companies that keep trying to support e-sports and the sc2-scene, despite Blizzard forcefully trying to "help" them.


Are you sure you don't have that the other way around? Starleague was a complete bust and they weren't planning on doing another season EVER. Proleague was hardly the success for foreigners as anticipated. With the abysmal casting, EG-TL bombing out, insane amounts of downtime, and the terrible time slots; PL had/has a cult following at best and isn't going to get any bigger. GSL on the other hand has a brand, has a massive foreigner following, has the best name(s) in casting, a team league just as watched as PL, and a tournament system that virtually EVERY major tournament is copying or at least taking from. Now we have to put up with an OGN/KeSPA run tournament that turns the standard WCS format on its head. And we go an entire season without GOM. Sure, they will do off scene casting to an empty studio, but that's about it. WCS is hindering GOM more than anything if you ask me. Just like they hindered MLG.



From my sources, BlueFlame is right.
GOM had no way of breaking into the Korean Television scene where the majority of sponsors in korea look to for advertisement. A few months back, FXOBoSs wrote a blog about this. Without major korean sponsors, the future of eSF and Gom would be bleak.
moo...for DRG
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
June 18 2013 21:31 GMT
#342
Well, MLG kinda tried. But imho they failed horribly. Let's hope for improvement! (which I'm pretty sure will come.)
first we make expand, then we defense it.
theking1
Profile Joined June 2013
Romania658 Posts
June 18 2013 21:32 GMT
#343
For those who want to find more about the nasl situation tune in to chanman now since he has gretorp as an invite.Quick guys.

http://www.twitch.tv/chanmanv?utm_campaign=live_embed_click&utm_source=www.teamliquid.net
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
June 18 2013 21:33 GMT
#344
#SWAG

IGN + NASL should deliver some pretty cool production and a lot of ohhh i don't know kev !
RIP MKP
FireZerg
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada89 Posts
June 18 2013 21:34 GMT
#345
yay! <3 NASL
compLexity-Gaming, Gosucoaching
Akaann
Profile Joined May 2011
Switzerland82 Posts
June 18 2013 21:35 GMT
#346
that's really really great! Finally I can enjoy WCS NA with the great NASL Caster team! Looking foreward to bitterdam
https://www.instagram.com/luke4power/
Nazeron
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1046 Posts
June 18 2013 21:40 GMT
#347
Awesome news, cant wait to tune in, really want to see how they handle WCS
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
June 18 2013 21:45 GMT
#348
nasl / ipl guys can probably not do a worse job than what mlg did...
The only virgins in kpop left are the fans
Ercster
Profile Joined August 2011
United States603 Posts
June 18 2013 21:47 GMT
#349
On June 19 2013 05:51 Dosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2013 05:46 Ercster wrote:
I hope they don't have a big focus on bullshit extra content. I just really want to watch the games and interviews with players.

On June 19 2013 05:40 jalstar wrote:
Seasons 1 and 2 were bad, 3 and 4 were very good. 3 was the best with the Canada final, Canadians generally like SC2 more than Americans.

Evidence?

You do know that "bull shit extra content" was so that we didn't have 15 minutes of the New York Skyline + Traffic Cams while they were setting up for the next match, right?

I meant things like the fitness shit. They could easily have just interviewed the players and/or casters and break those down into 4-5 1-2 minutes segments.
“The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it.” -Neil deGrasse Tyson
Fyrewolf
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1533 Posts
June 18 2013 21:48 GMT
#350
IPL/NASL "The Merging is Complete"

Pretty excited to see what they can do for wcs am. Once they get things rolling it will be interesting to see how different it looks on this side.
"This is not Warcraft in space" "It's much more...... Sophisticated" "I KNOW IT'S NOT 3D!!!"
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
June 18 2013 21:50 GMT
#351
Thank god, great news for NASL! I can't express how aweme this announcment is.
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
TJ31
Profile Joined October 2012
630 Posts
June 18 2013 22:17 GMT
#352
Great news. Not the biggest fan of NASL either tbh, but I think they'll do much better job than MLG considering ex-IPL crew will be helping.
lamprey1
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada919 Posts
June 18 2013 22:19 GMT
#353
The WCS-NA property went from a bidding war to a hot potato.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
June 18 2013 22:22 GMT
#354
Nice, this is pretty cool news. Glad to hear and congrats NASL
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
June 18 2013 22:26 GMT
#355
This is excellent news. Go, Bitterdam!
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
June 18 2013 22:29 GMT
#356
nice to see NASL and IPL now Blizzard back in action. Though I was interested in how MLG would improve. Hope the first season didn't hurt their pockets to badly.
But basically NASL has a free win now, they just have to not use Bo1
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
June 18 2013 22:31 GMT
#357
GOOD: the nasl is best
BAD: ... rly ? the ipl makes the season and nasl only finals ? they have best duo i RLY hope they will go to the studio bcause rotterdam, mr bitter are soooo much better then the ipl guys. nothing !!! against them but, they more lik the guys i wanna see in vids, not daily
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
SinCitta
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany2127 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-18 22:37:23
June 18 2013 22:33 GMT
#358
I'm glad it turns out this way. I thought MLG was the better choice but they really didn't put much effort into WCS (even if they had reasons for that).

And if the process was anything like TotalBiscuit described it, I am disappointed in Blizzard. They really wanted to throw NASL under the bus, did they?
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
June 18 2013 22:34 GMT
#359
On June 19 2013 01:51 Artisane wrote:
Hell Yeah! My wife actually jumped up and down when I told her this.

You guys are NASL have NO idea how much she hated watching the MLG WCS stream.

Can I trade my wife for yours? :D
My wife would only jump up and down if I told her I stopped following Sc2 tournaments and streams :D
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
June 18 2013 22:35 GMT
#360
YEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSS! Thank you sooooooo much Blizzard!
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
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