EPTWCS AM Season 2 to be run by NASL and Blizzard - Page 16
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Thor.Rush
Sweden702 Posts
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Florix
Germany116 Posts
good for ben&kev | ||
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CrazyF1r3f0x
United States2120 Posts
Though I guess MLG will just go back to doing their standard competitions now? | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
bring back catspyjamas and i might actually watch some sc2 | ||
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inn5013orecl
United States227 Posts
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SCST
Mexico1609 Posts
Let's just be happy they're gone and another company gets a chance to do SC2 the justice it deserves. | ||
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BlueFlames
Germany1756 Posts
On June 19 2013 04:04 Empirimancer wrote: Oh thank Blizzard! Are you shitting me ... people thank Blizzard? If Blizzards game-developers were as bad as their E-sports division they would be out of business by now. Blizzards decision surrounding the SC2 scene were horrible and bad for almost anyone involved. The only reason WCS was not a disaster is because of ESL/OGN/Gom. If the incompetent people at Blizzard keep fucking up the SC2 scene like they did the past couple of weeks, there will be a lot of people that could lose their jobs. Lets sum up the greate things WCS gave the SC2-community. - Messing up the entire NA-scene. Not only did they fuck over the players, but they seemed to not care about NASL almost having to leave the SC2 scene for good. Lets not mention hindering MLG at producing at what they are good at. Tournaments that gave NA-players a chance and brought the spotlight of the whole SC-2 scene on NA. At this point i miss a good weekend tournament by MLG. I want Dreamhack weekends and i want MLG weekends again. - Deciding on a WCS-format a few weeks before the product had to be ready, screwing over every organisation producing it, especially ESL who were the first to start the league i think. ESL did a good job, but i dont think the working conditions for them were really that good. - No IEM events in a long time. A tournament that also gives regions and countries a chance that arent that big yet and that triy to actively promote regional players. - Messing with the free market in korea by enforcing two corporations to work together. If not for Blizzard Gom would probably be dead and OGN and KESPA would be running the show. Blizzards constant messing in this matter boggles my mind. My thoughts are a bit unorganised at the momement, but i think everyone knows that the sc2-scene was at a reasonably good spot before WSC. Blizzard came in and fucked up big time. So please for the love of god thank the companies that were interested in supporting e-sports and the starcraft community all the years blizzard ignored it and thank the companies that keep trying to support e-sports and the sc2-scene, despite Blizzard forcefully trying to "help" them. | ||
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fabstr
Germany10 Posts
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thezanursic
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On June 19 2013 04:53 BlueFlames wrote: Are you shitting me ... people thank Blizzard? If Blizzards game-developers were as bad as their E-sports division they would be out of business by now. Blizzards decision surrounding the SC2 scene were horrible and bad for almost anyone involved. The only reason WCS was not a disaster is because of ESL/OGN/Gom. If the incompetent people at Blizzard keep fucking up the SC2 scene like they did the past couple of weeks, there will be a lot of people that could lose their jobs. Lets sum up the greate things WCS gave the SC2-community. - Messing up the entire NA-scene. Not only did they fuck over the players, but they seemed to not care about NASL almost having to leave the SC2 scene for good. Lets not mention hindering MLG at producing at what they are good at. Tournaments that gave NA-players a chance and brought the spotlight of the whole SC-2 scene on NA. At this point i miss a good weekend tournament by MLG. I want Dreamhack weekends and i want MLG weekends again. - Deciding on a WCS-format a few weeks before the product had to be ready, screwing over every organisation producing it, especially ESL who were the first to start the league i think. ESL did a good job, but i dont think the working conditions for them were really that good. - No IEM events in a long time. A tournament that also gives regions and countries a chance that arent that big yet and that triy to actively promote regional players. - Messing with the free market in korea by enforcing two corporations to work together. If not for Blizzard Gom would probably be dead and OGN and KESPA would be running the show. Blizzards constant messing in this matter boggles my mind. My thoughts are a bit unorganised at the momement, but i think everyone knows that the sc2-scene was at a reasonably good spot before WSC. Blizzard came in and fucked up big time. So please for the love of god thank the companies that were interested in supporting e-sports and the starcraft community all the years blizzard ignored it and thank the companies that keep trying to support e-sports and the sc2-scene, despite Blizzard forcefully trying to "help" them. before you explode in a rant at least understand the context. He was just happy that Blizzard gave the rights the NASL for WCS America. | ||
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Swisslink
2958 Posts
I really hope so, I like the MLG tournaments which take place on one weekend, but the Open Tournament seems a little weird and irrelevant to me. | ||
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ZimmyDoom
Mexico42 Posts
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MCXD
Australia2738 Posts
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True_Spike
Poland3434 Posts
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
On June 19 2013 04:53 BlueFlames wrote: My thoughts are a bit unorganised at the momement, but i think everyone knows that the sc2-scene was at a reasonably good spot before WSC. Blizzard came in and fucked up big time. So please for the love of god thank the companies that were interested in supporting e-sports and the starcraft community all the years blizzard ignored it and thank the companies that keep trying to support e-sports and the sc2-scene, despite Blizzard forcefully trying to "help" them. Most of your points are correct, but I really don't think the sc2-scene was in a good spot before WCS. Honestly it's a system that still has it's flaws which have been highlighted to death already, but the system itself was sorely needed. I'm mainly a GSL viewer, but having a similar format has really warmed me up to non-stephano EU players. | ||
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archonOOid
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Wpgstevo
Canada79 Posts
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
On June 19 2013 05:15 Ysellian wrote: Most of your points are correct, but I really don't think the sc2-scene was in a good spot before WCS. Honestly it's a system that still has it's flaws which have been highlighted to death already, but the system itself was sorely needed. I'm mainly a GSL viewer, but having a similar format has really warmed me up to non-stephano EU players. Agreed, for the most part I didn't care too much for tournaments outside of GSL, now with WCS I have a tournament which I regard as the top for each region as there isn't any reason for a player from a certain region not to try and qualify. | ||
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julianto
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
On June 19 2013 04:53 BlueFlames wrote: Are you shitting me ... people thank Blizzard? If Blizzards game-developers were as bad as their E-sports division they would be out of business by now. Blizzards decision surrounding the SC2 scene were horrible and bad for almost anyone involved. The only reason WCS was not a disaster is because of ESL/OGN/Gom. If the incompetent people at Blizzard keep fucking up the SC2 scene like they did the past couple of weeks, there will be a lot of people that could lose their jobs. Lets sum up the greate things WCS gave the SC2-community. - Messing up the entire NA-scene. Not only did they fuck over the players, but they seemed to not care about NASL almost having to leave the SC2 scene for good. Lets not mention hindering MLG at producing at what they are good at. Tournaments that gave NA-players a chance and brought the spotlight of the whole SC-2 scene on NA. At this point i miss a good weekend tournament by MLG. I want Dreamhack weekends and i want MLG weekends again. - Deciding on a WCS-format a few weeks before the product had to be ready, screwing over every organisation producing it, especially ESL who were the first to start the league i think. ESL did a good job, but i dont think the working conditions for them were really that good. - No IEM events in a long time. A tournament that also gives regions and countries a chance that arent that big yet and that triy to actively promote regional players. - Messing with the free market in korea by enforcing two corporations to work together. If not for Blizzard Gom would probably be dead and OGN and KESPA would be running the show. Blizzards constant messing in this matter boggles my mind. My thoughts are a bit unorganised at the momement, but i think everyone knows that the sc2-scene was at a reasonably good spot before WSC. Blizzard came in and fucked up big time. So please for the love of god thank the companies that were interested in supporting e-sports and the starcraft community all the years blizzard ignored it and thank the companies that keep trying to support e-sports and the sc2-scene, despite Blizzard forcefully trying to "help" them. Are you sure you don't have that the other way around? Starleague was a complete bust and they weren't planning on doing another season EVER. Proleague was hardly the success for foreigners as anticipated. With the abysmal casting, EG-TL bombing out, insane amounts of downtime, and the terrible time slots; PL had/has a cult following at best and isn't going to get any bigger. GSL on the other hand has a brand, has a massive foreigner following, has the best name(s) in casting, a team league just as watched as PL, and a tournament system that virtually EVERY major tournament is copying or at least taking from. Now we have to put up with an OGN/KeSPA run tournament that turns the standard WCS format on its head. And we go an entire season without GOM. Sure, they will do off scene casting to an empty studio, but that's about it. WCS is hindering GOM more than anything if you ask me. Just like they hindered MLG. | ||
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