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WCS AM Season 2 to be run by NASL and Blizzard - Page 15

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Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
June 18 2013 18:57 GMT
#281
Greatest thing that could every happen, ty so much blizzard, they do really care )
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
June 18 2013 18:59 GMT
#282
Okay, so we thought NASL should've gotten it to begin with. Now that you guys have it, show us that you can make it more awesome than your recent NASL seasons.

Also, more Chance.
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Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-18 19:04:34
June 18 2013 19:04 GMT
#283
On June 19 2013 03:54 Rainling wrote:
Axeltoss and Axslav are great casters, but NASL has much better online production and a more diverse lineup of casters, often bringing in guests, which makes them more fun to watch imo. I can't wait to see the NASL studio back in action next season!


On June 19 2013 03:42 Proseat wrote:
Also made official on the Blizzard WCS portal:
http://wcs.battle.net/sc2/en/articles/wcs-america-operator-update

I think it makes sense as NASL traditionally are a lot more experienced with day-to-day operations of Starcraft 2 broadcasting, while MLG always excelled at putting on great weekend tournament shows.

Hopefully, MLG will not be too sour about how things transpired and will re-focus with new energy on what made them big and successful in the past. If anything, they probably took a good look at DreamHack and saw that there is a market in running big independent weekend tournaments outside the new WCS system, yet be somewhat associated by awarding WCS points. I like this development and wish much success to everyone involved.


NASL isn't doing the online production part, Blizzard are.
HOLY CHECK!
Empirimancer
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada1024 Posts
June 18 2013 19:04 GMT
#284
Oh thank Blizzard!

Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 18 2013 19:10 GMT
#285
On June 19 2013 04:04 Lonyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2013 03:54 Rainling wrote:
Axeltoss and Axslav are great casters, but NASL has much better online production and a more diverse lineup of casters, often bringing in guests, which makes them more fun to watch imo. I can't wait to see the NASL studio back in action next season!


Show nested quote +
On June 19 2013 03:42 Proseat wrote:
Also made official on the Blizzard WCS portal:
http://wcs.battle.net/sc2/en/articles/wcs-america-operator-update

I think it makes sense as NASL traditionally are a lot more experienced with day-to-day operations of Starcraft 2 broadcasting, while MLG always excelled at putting on great weekend tournament shows.

Hopefully, MLG will not be too sour about how things transpired and will re-focus with new energy on what made them big and successful in the past. If anything, they probably took a good look at DreamHack and saw that there is a market in running big independent weekend tournaments outside the new WCS system, yet be somewhat associated by awarding WCS points. I like this development and wish much success to everyone involved.


NASL isn't doing the online production part, Blizzard are.


Well Blizzard hired the production crew from IPL and built a studio. It doesn't mean they aren't working with NASL's casters and so fourth. Their studios are really close together.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Fries
Profile Joined August 2010
United States124 Posts
June 18 2013 19:14 GMT
#286
On June 19 2013 04:04 Lonyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2013 03:54 Rainling wrote:
Axeltoss and Axslav are great casters, but NASL has much better online production and a more diverse lineup of casters, often bringing in guests, which makes them more fun to watch imo. I can't wait to see the NASL studio back in action next season!


Show nested quote +
On June 19 2013 03:42 Proseat wrote:
Also made official on the Blizzard WCS portal:
http://wcs.battle.net/sc2/en/articles/wcs-america-operator-update

I think it makes sense as NASL traditionally are a lot more experienced with day-to-day operations of Starcraft 2 broadcasting, while MLG always excelled at putting on great weekend tournament shows.

Hopefully, MLG will not be too sour about how things transpired and will re-focus with new energy on what made them big and successful in the past. If anything, they probably took a good look at DreamHack and saw that there is a market in running big independent weekend tournaments outside the new WCS system, yet be somewhat associated by awarding WCS points. I like this development and wish much success to everyone involved.


NASL isn't doing the online production part, Blizzard are.


Only for season 2. NASL is doing all of season three, and the NASL casters will stop by to cast the offline stuff still.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 18 2013 19:17 GMT
#287
I figured they would alternate. Let's see what the NASL/Blizzard combo can do.
TheSir
Profile Joined February 2012
1830 Posts
June 18 2013 19:20 GMT
#288
On June 19 2013 02:52 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2013 02:47 TheSir wrote:
On June 19 2013 02:38 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2013 02:36 DavoS wrote:
See guys, keep your pitchforks sharpened and we can make the world a better place

I don't think it had much to do with pitch forks at all. MLG opted out of WCS and didn't want to do it in the first place.


Then why do it? Whats the difference of bailing out before the start or after just one freaking season. It all sounds like a bunch of bullshit to me. This is exactly like the weak ass GSL production and excuses we got last week. All i hear are excuses why something was or wasn't possible.

And dont tell me, like TB is suggesting, that MLG was forced to run it because then as MLG make a statement with not running it and let the community grab the pitchforks towards Blizzard. But hey if thats true then MLG likes to bend over i guess and i was rating them to high even after all the fuck ups they make on a regular basis.

This hole thing is a joke, and even worse then OGN/GOM nonsense.

Based upon your equivalence of this situation and the OGN/GOM one, I'm going to assume you haven't allowed any consideration for the internal politics of the WCS setup. I have no idea what went on, but image being given a few weeks to set up the largest tournament your game has ever created and trying to bang out everything both logically and legally. Was MLG supposed to say no to the people who permit them to use a game with a large fanbase in major competition, a game that makes them money? Certainly not.


MLG cant exist without SC2? There are way more games then SC2, and what would you think the community would do if MLG would announce they are not allowed to run SC2 championships anymore because Blizzard wants them to run WCS with a loss? Well Blizzard would be fucked, i can tell you that right now. So and if that was true, why are they allowed to bail now then? Right, that makes not much sense.

And MLG makes money of SC2? What? First thing i said when i heard about WCS, well im curious cause thats a lot of man power and resources your going to spent. Anyone could see that, so your telling me its better to let your partners push you around, on as project you know your going to loose money on and you know your going to deliver a shit product (for what ever reason) which will give you a shitload of bad reactions and hate in the community and you will have to pull out at some moment or invest a shitload more to make yourself look good again with the hope it works out.....

Congratulations, they did almost exactly that. Its just next level stupidity. Of course you say no to your partners if they are trying to run your business and force you to loose money, then you say fuck you and move on to something else. Thats what any normal company would do, cause your loosing the control over your own damn company and your bending over and put your brand at risk.

Again, next level stupidity and unless someones comes with real statements and no excuses (im so tired of excuses in esports) im going to think this cause i cant make anything else of it.
Blackrobe
Profile Joined August 2010
United States806 Posts
June 18 2013 19:21 GMT
#289
Sounds like an apt change.

Good luck NASL and new Blizzard staff! :D
"To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future."
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
June 18 2013 19:24 GMT
#290
On June 19 2013 02:47 TheSir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2013 02:38 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2013 02:36 DavoS wrote:
See guys, keep your pitchforks sharpened and we can make the world a better place

I don't think it had much to do with pitch forks at all. MLG opted out of WCS and didn't want to do it in the first place.


Then why do it? Whats the difference of bailing out before the start or after just one freaking season. It all sounds like a bunch of bullshit to me. This is exactly like the weak ass GSL production and excuses we got last week. All i hear are excuses why something was or wasn't possible.

And dont tell me, like TB is suggesting, that MLG was forced to run it because then as MLG make a statement with not running it and let the community grab the pitchforks towards Blizzard. But hey if thats true then MLG likes to bend over i guess and i was rating them to high even after all the fuck ups they make on a regular basis.

This hole thing is a joke, and even worse then OGN/GOM nonsense.


It's great reading community feedback from people that have no idea what they're talking about
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dizzy101
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2066 Posts
June 18 2013 19:27 GMT
#291
Ok, so it is ONLY the offline LAN portion that the NASL will produce? Why not the whole thing? Seems less of a big deal than the hubbub on Reddit suggests.
yh93kim
Profile Joined January 2009
Korea (South)62 Posts
June 18 2013 19:27 GMT
#292
Great news! NASL is better suited for long running tournaments than MLG, and we still get to see MLG do what they do best.
MasterOfChaos: somebody you are talking to disappears mid sentence, and the universe shoots you because you talked to somebody who wasn't there | R1CH: thats surprisingly accurate
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 18 2013 19:28 GMT
#293
On June 19 2013 04:24 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2013 02:47 TheSir wrote:
On June 19 2013 02:38 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2013 02:36 DavoS wrote:
See guys, keep your pitchforks sharpened and we can make the world a better place

I don't think it had much to do with pitch forks at all. MLG opted out of WCS and didn't want to do it in the first place.


Then why do it? Whats the difference of bailing out before the start or after just one freaking season. It all sounds like a bunch of bullshit to me. This is exactly like the weak ass GSL production and excuses we got last week. All i hear are excuses why something was or wasn't possible.

And dont tell me, like TB is suggesting, that MLG was forced to run it because then as MLG make a statement with not running it and let the community grab the pitchforks towards Blizzard. But hey if thats true then MLG likes to bend over i guess and i was rating them to high even after all the fuck ups they make on a regular basis.

This hole thing is a joke, and even worse then OGN/GOM nonsense.


It's great reading community feedback from people that have no idea what they're talking about


I was going to say that, but decided to be more polite about it. But, yeah, he is really just talking out of his ass and just claiming stuff is bullshit for no apparent reason.

But enough about him. Back to the joy and the return of the Pulse. Oh yeah, its coming back.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-18 19:31:57
June 18 2013 19:29 GMT
#294
On June 19 2013 04:27 dizzy101 wrote:
Ok, so it is ONLY the offline LAN portion that the NASL will produce? Why not the whole thing? Seems less of a big deal than the hubbub on Reddit suggests.


Blizzard have the IPL guys as well and I believe there will be a lot of overlapping.

edit: Overlapping is the wrong word, what I mean to say is that they can end up doing both.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
June 18 2013 19:31 GMT
#295
Yes! This is too good to be true!!!!!!
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
June 18 2013 19:32 GMT
#296
On June 19 2013 04:28 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2013 04:24 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On June 19 2013 02:47 TheSir wrote:
On June 19 2013 02:38 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2013 02:36 DavoS wrote:
See guys, keep your pitchforks sharpened and we can make the world a better place

I don't think it had much to do with pitch forks at all. MLG opted out of WCS and didn't want to do it in the first place.


Then why do it? Whats the difference of bailing out before the start or after just one freaking season. It all sounds like a bunch of bullshit to me. This is exactly like the weak ass GSL production and excuses we got last week. All i hear are excuses why something was or wasn't possible.

And dont tell me, like TB is suggesting, that MLG was forced to run it because then as MLG make a statement with not running it and let the community grab the pitchforks towards Blizzard. But hey if thats true then MLG likes to bend over i guess and i was rating them to high even after all the fuck ups they make on a regular basis.

This hole thing is a joke, and even worse then OGN/GOM nonsense.


It's great reading community feedback from people that have no idea what they're talking about


I was going to say that, but decided to be more polite about it. But, yeah, he is really just talking out of his ass and just claiming stuff is bullshit for no apparent reason.

But enough about him. Back to the joy and the return of the Pulse. Oh yeah, its coming back.


Cynical Brit is cynical :p
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Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
June 18 2013 19:34 GMT
#297
Looks like Blizzard doesnt want another NA catastrophe when it comes to qualifiers...
As for NASL. Hope they will do their job well.
As for MLG. Lucky bastards. They dont have to waste money on there overpaid crew on daily basis and just use them once in a while during weekends. Also the price lock by Blizzard makes it easier for them to break even with their Pro Circuit events.
Schmoooopy
Profile Joined July 2011
United States448 Posts
June 18 2013 19:36 GMT
#298
Genuinely happy about this. I think NASL can run it a bit better than MLG, as I think they've certainly grown as an organization through the seasons. Good for them.
grs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany2339 Posts
June 18 2013 19:37 GMT
#299
This is the PR version of Blizzard did not want more bad rep because of MLG, no matter what TB says. Just telling other people they have no clue is not really an argument in itself. This smells so strong like a PR stunt.

But anyways, I hope everyone focusses on what they can do best now.
Zax19
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Czech Republic1136 Posts
June 18 2013 19:39 GMT
#300
Well, it’s a bit late but better than letting NASL die. It would be ideal if MLG did the weekend finals and NASL the regular seasonal games. Now we need region lock and erasing that dumb non-compete.
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