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On June 15 2013 04:11 Topdoller wrote:Cheap banshees, way to go Mr Kim in forcing Protoss into Robo tech yet again for the next 3 years. We could see the return of Dual Port Banshee openings I hope this means that Leta can come back and be bonjwa with his 2port shenanigans.
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I like these, except for how bloody fast he WP is. That's a full 50% faster.
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I rather see a buff to Tanks than banshees. Buff one the following: 1. Single Target damage. 2. Bonus damage vs shields. 3. Increased damage from damage upgrades.
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oh cool the first ridiculous change to terran that wont get implemented, usually its been the other races (but lol, heres me hoping the ridiculous buff gets through like it happened before)
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On June 15 2013 03:32 Noocta wrote: The Banshee buff is insane You can go cloack banshee with only one gas now, and get an earlier command center. There's no way people will not always open banshee in TvT now.
Not only in Tvt i feel
As if Hellbat Drops weren't annoying enough
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On June 15 2013 04:16 Sated wrote: That Banshee buff...
... time to dust off the 2 Gate Robo expand. I don't think you need to play that safe for this, yes cloak is faster but getting a banshee itself isn't. Just get a normal anti-cloak robo, and in HotS PvT you really need fast robo for Widow Mine drops anyway.
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100/100 is a bit on the low-end, methinks. 150/150 would be sufficient, imo.
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On June 15 2013 04:19 digmouse wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2013 04:16 Sated wrote: That Banshee buff...
... time to dust off the 2 Gate Robo expand. I don't think you need to play that safe for this, yes cloak is faster but getting a banshee itself isn't. Just get a normal anti-cloak robo, and in HotS PvT you really need fast robo for Widow Mine drops anyway.
Yeah, I see little changing. All three races need pretty early detection to deal with widow mines, so the banshee is just another things to work around.
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This hellbat nerf is good but please reduce the cost of blue flame instead of cloak. The important part is to delay the timing of fast hellbat drops, but this change hurts Mech play in general. By having cheap blueflame but keeping the research time the fast drops is nerfed without mech being nerfed in general.
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I wonder if blizzard is having love affair with terrans.
Terrans might not be overperfming but they are definitely in better position than other two races.
Banshee buff is a joke. Whats exciting about invisible unit two-shotting everything?
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So this means fast robotics always vs TErran cause they will always get away with fast expo and cloaked banshee.I swear David Kim is just out to make terran imbalanced.I'm not really one to cry about stuff but seriosuly, WP buff and to compensate for nering overpowered they make another one overpowered.I mean what the hell.Why not buff protoss and nerf hell bats.I think they need to buff gateway units as I think late game, one freaking EMP, just one, ( not like protoss who need 100 storms that can be face tanked, cause u know, terran is not imba ) and u are done.
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United States97245 Posts
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Hmm, i like it.
Even if Banshees replace Hellbat drops in every TvT, Banshees are actually fun units with lots of micro potential from both sides.
I'd like to see a price and time reduction for Transformation Servos.
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All this hate against terran...
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United States32432 Posts
1/1/1 is still dead with this change, I'm sad
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Bah, I hate the banshee already. Who in their right mind votes yes to this insane buff? Half price AND time reduction? If you absolutely must buff this already annoying unit, then atleast only pick one. This is a way bigger buff to the banshee than it's a nerf to the Hellbat.
I'd also rather have Hellbats be too strong than the Banshee. With hellbats, if you are not well prepared you are going to fall behind. With banshees either you are prepared or you are not, and if you are not then you are just gonna lose the game straight away. It also force zergs to rush for a third base, cause if that thing is not already done by the time the banshee show up then it's not going up before you have an overseer. Very limiting. The same for Protoss, you're basically forcing them to go Robo or oracles. Atleast you had different options for dealing with Hellbats.
I would definitely prefer what we have now to this craziness. But to be fair, Blizzard have stated that they like to overbuff the units in the test map and the implement a less ridiculous version as we see with the Warp Prism. If that is the case, then I will only find this halfway annoying I guess..
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terrans qqing about cloak buff...
wtf bros Oo
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On June 15 2013 03:31 Tobblish wrote:Yes! Lets replace Hellbats with Banshee rushes Warp Prisms everywhere, all those allins that will be created because of this buff.. T_T Still want to know why changing so the Hellbat cant get loaded into the Medivac isn't a option. Design or Balance problem???
Its a nasty design feature that isnt .. how do i put it .. logical i guess.
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On June 15 2013 04:21 saddaromma wrote: I wonder if blizzard is having love affair with terrans.
Terrans might not be overperfming but they are definitely in better position than other two races.
Banshee buff is a joke. Whats exciting about invisible unit two-shotting everything?
whats exciting about a permanent cloaked unit that one shots everything?
yeah im talking about the DT...and the DT tech had it's cost reduced either and everyone was fine with that
we almost never see banshees anymore in todays matches ...and i think this change is quite reasonable
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