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DRTnOOber
New Zealand476 Posts
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On June 13 2013 12:59 BisuDagger wrote: Hey I was saying things that weren't true, not things that were hurtful.  Aren't you making the SKT vs KT LR today? I am expecting some epic SKT fanboy pics don't let me down | ||
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malady
United States600 Posts
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
On June 13 2013 13:02 sitromit wrote: I didn't just look at their thumbnails. They're not normal maps by any stretch of the imagination. I'm not against concept maps, especially in team leagues. But having entirely untested concept maps for a bo1 for the most important tournament in the world is just bad. This isn't even like an OSL of the past where if you get eliminated, you can always try again for the next one. Being eliminated early means you lose the chance to go to the global finals, and if you lose 1 more bo3, you could drop out of WCS altogether, meaning you lose out on Code S for the next season as well. It's a big fucking deal. apparently you havent - played the map - watched pros play the map so quit your bs. too much hate | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On June 13 2013 13:04 DRTnOOber wrote: I really don't like the fact it's Bo1 in the Ro32... I don't think it'll let the best player's through, but just whoever prepares the best cheese/build. It feels... wrong that the rest of WCS has Bo3 for this part of the tournament. Preparing builds, dealing with high stress environment, responding correctly to builds on the fly, executing all of that with good fundamentals, these are all a part of what makes the best player. Doing the same macro build and relying on your fundamentals every single game is a major weakness of many players (such as Flash). Having a Bo1 is ample ground for storylines and upsets, which by-the-way, is not necessarily a bad thing. If everyone knew exactly who was going to win because every series was a BoX lim -> infinity, why even watch the matches? How would you have diversity in fandom? Why would anyone cheer for the underdog? Bo1 caters to an aggressive, smart, and planned out style where as Bo3+ caters to a safe, map-by-map, and reliable style. The former is alot more fun to watch for alot of people. Bo1's are also alot more exciting because everything is on the line, every Bo1 is treated like match point in a Bo3+ series in the view of the fans. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
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regizer239
Guam327 Posts
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Hammer442
Australia749 Posts
Regarding WCS S2 Ro32 bo1 games: we know the concerns, but it can't be modified now for logistical reasons. Thank you for understanding #WCS | ||
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Brett
Australia3822 Posts
On June 13 2013 12:24 vesicular wrote: Because it's not a GSL, it's an OSL, which has been running (basically) the same way for a decade. And I thought everyone on TL was pissed at WCS "taking over" GSL? Now you *want* WCS to interfere with OSL? Talk about talking out of both sides of your mouth. It's almost like there are multiple people posting with different opinions!!! WHO KNEW????? | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19366 Posts
On June 13 2013 13:06 lichter wrote: Aren't you making the SKT vs KT LR today? I am expecting some epic SKT fanboy pics don't let me down I have work, I can't LR or hype at all! But expect only the best from SKT as they dominate KT. | ||
Waxangel
United States33627 Posts
matters in Korea, but I guess the international scene who started off with SC2 and not BW won't care much | ||
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Emzeeshady
Canada4203 Posts
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magicallypuzzled
United States588 Posts
yugioh's match vs gumiho makes me far more confident then I was about his zvt and flash really doesn't seem unbeatable or all that great to me. so either ragnarok or yugioh taking him out wouldn't surprise me terribly if it's ragnarok that yugioh has to face to advance, than well I think I have already said this, but I really like yugioh's chances in a zvz. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
Competitive standpoint - Bo1 is worse than Bo3, unarguable. The more games there are the higher the chance for the best players to advance. Spectator standpoint - Some people might prefer bo1, reasons for this may be: - not enough time to watch all the ro32 games - more pressure on each game Consistency with other WCS leagues - Casuals might get confused, doesn't bother me personally. WCS KR was already slightly different due to the much higher number of players coming up through Code A every season. We'll just have to deal with it. OGN has announced that they're unable to change the format at this point. | ||
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Emzeeshady
Canada4203 Posts
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sparklyresidue
United States5524 Posts
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Hammer442
Australia749 Posts
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1g8p65/osl_changed_the_wcs_kr_s2_format_change_it_back/cahw2dy Hey guys I know there's been a lot of talk about this. Let me just address a few points. In general As many are pointing out, we are keeping true to the past OSL formats. There are arguments for uniformity as now we are in the era of WCS, and this is duly noted. We, and I am sure other parties as well, will be monitoring things this year to see what to conform and why. However, for the time being, the situation has allowed us to keep our character, and as we venture into the new WCS with excitement, we're very thankful we can keep that. It may not be for everyone, and it may not be a good fit for SC2 or be changed in the future, but we want to see how it works out before jumping to changes. GomTV has been successful with their formula for the GSL, and all the props to them for that. I just hope OGN will also be given a chance to stick to what we've done successfully before finalizing any modifications (and hopefully improvements). We hope you understand and appreciate your patience. Regarding the Ro32: Yes, we understand the concerns. I do not think bo1's have no benefits, but your concerns are valid. I will admit though, currently we are not putting much time or effort into changing it immediately. This is because, even if we wanted to, the logistics are not feasible for this season. I'm not guaranteeing that it will change in the future, just want to admit that right now given the feasibility of things, we aren't focusing on changing the content, but how to better present that content. Throughout all this, we will definitely be monitoring all aspects, and I think it's safe to say that all the parties involved in the WCS will see vast improvement over the year/next year. Thanks for chiming in. We're listening, you can trust me on that one. | ||
stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Oh well. It's been decided so we'll see how it goes. | ||
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Tobblish
Sweden6404 Posts
If it was a normal schedule with games it would cut into prime time in Korea and the LoL program would have to change. So far they haven't even started with the games, so there IS time to change this. But because of the reasoning done above, they can't. Damn you LoL and OGN T_T | ||
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Mattumsfox
United States233 Posts
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