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And the randomly chsoen maps could be very unfair in certain situations.
Picking the GSL format would have been way more interesting.
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sCnInfinity
Germany82 Posts
And the randomly chsoen maps could be very unfair in certain situations. Picking the GSL format would have been way more interesting. | ||
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VManOfMana
United States764 Posts
On June 13 2013 14:01 Dvriel wrote: Please, Chobra, understad this: If every single WCS out of Korea take this format nad make it succeed its because IT WORKS perfectly. Now, you come and screw it with your unknown "logictics". If you are not prepared,just dont do it, WTF!!! You already know its a shit and almost everyone is pissed. I want to see the best players advance, because I expect the best quality of games from the best players in the world. Dont wanna see flash being dropped, because the Zergs decide to baneling bust him every game. The cheese is not the best way to show your skill and you are promoving this. Where is the LOGICstic here???? Explain yourself better, because NO ONE will understand you. Speak for yourself. I want OSL back, and its format is one of those things that makes it special. WCS KR is run between GSL and OSL. WCS KR S1 was run under GSL, WCS KR S2 is now run on OSL. Thus it makes sense that S1 has GSL format and S2 has OSL format. This is a new format with new nuances. Enjoy it for what it is. How do you think Flash became known? One of the most perfectly executed cheeses ever done. And it produced the most delicious Bisu fan tears and rage ever. | ||
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ChriS-X
Malaysia1374 Posts
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DustbinBieber
France276 Posts
On June 13 2013 10:05 LuckyMacro wrote: Not sure if I'd consider group E the group of death, maybe if fantasy and jangbi were both like how they were in BW. Although they do play some nice SC2 sometimes. Kind of excited for the rain vs bomber, depending on which bomber shows up Jangbi has been extremely good lately, better than PartinG if you ask me. As for Fantasy... :-( | ||
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skylarr
Canada209 Posts
On June 13 2013 14:07 sitromit wrote: Fun fact. If the ro32 in season finals had been played as bo1, Innovation, the eventual champion could not have advanced as 1st from his group, and could even have potentially been eliminated. Mvp, the semi finalist wouldn't have advanced past ro32. Mvp and nestea won 3 GSLs with bo1 ro32s. Jaedong and flash won 5 and 6 OSL/MSL with bo1 ro32 finals. Don't worry, OSL's been running for a decade, they know what they're doing. | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
On June 13 2013 10:05 LuckyMacro wrote: Not sure if I'd consider group E the group of death, maybe if fantasy and jangbi were both like how they were in BW. Although they do play some nice SC2 sometimes. Kind of excited for the rain vs bomber, depending on which bomber shows up I actually think Jangbi and Life will dispatch the others quite easily in group E :D We have different opinions so maybe it's indeed the group of death after all haha. | ||
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insanet
Peru439 Posts
On June 13 2013 14:14 skylarr wrote: Mvp and nestea won 3 GSLs with bo1 ro32s. Jaedong and flash won 5 and 6 OSL/MSL with bo1 ro32 finals. Don't worry, OSL's been running for a decade, they know what they're doing. But Jaedong and Flash often got seeded to Ro16, their gold count could be much different if they had to start from ro32 every time. | ||
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DustbinBieber
France276 Posts
On June 13 2013 14:19 insanet wrote: But Jaedong and Flash often got seeded to Ro16, their gold count could be much different if they had to start from ro32 every time. Nah, Bo1 on BW was fine, it's not a volatile game. Bo1 for SC2 might not be a good idea though :-) | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
And wow can't belief they use a proven to not work format, just because their tournament was that way in another game. On the other hand I saw the presentation of the xbox one ... so I should belief that everything is possible. | ||
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
Always has been like this, and logistically it's a TV time slot issue and not much else. I prefer BO3 Dual Tournament Groups like GSL has, but a change once in a while is interesting I guess. What I will dislike though is the breaks in between each game (so even though we have 10 games per night, the night will be longer than GOM's broadcast). I get that it's for Korean ads, but it makes my experience a bit more punctuated. New maps issue: Players only need to practice one matchup on one of the new maps only, I don't think it's thaaat bad. Although I disagree with the assertion they have been well-tested and approved, I don't think the new maps will be so iffy especially for RO32. Anyway, LRs have been pre-made, calendar entries done - feel free to sign up for LRs and gogogo OSL :D | ||
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Emzeeshady
Canada4203 Posts
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Veroleg
Austria76 Posts
On June 13 2013 12:28 1Dhalism wrote: as much as I'd like to stand in the righteous corner and call for fair competition yada yada yada i think when the fate of a 13 year old franchise is on the line there is no place for RNG. wth are you guys talking about, the distribution isnt noteworthy AT ALL On June 13 2013 12:24 Cinim wrote: Stop talking about group of death, it's bo1 format in the first round so it's completely pointless and quite frankly stupid to talk about. It's proven time and time again(for example the last sc2 OSL) that at this lvl of gameplay, when introducing bo1 it almost always creates significantly surprising results, because a bo1 is so volatile. its been proven time again that bo3 always produces surprising results, and isnt v ery different from bo1s, especially in a game as volitile as sc2. lets say the average map winrate is 56% for the round of 32, then the difference between bo1 and bo3 is 56 to 59%. On June 13 2013 14:23 Emzeeshady wrote: You can NEVER count on anything in bo1. Literally anyone could make the next round and I would not be surprised. It will be kind of like that one GSL where they finished at IPL5 so everything had to finish super fast and we ended up with really random winners. lol, i cant imagine how life could even be a favourite vs fantasy, yet you guys are talking as if its hard to see anything but a jangbi/life result. even if they were 60% per map vs the others, they would both make it out only 42% | ||
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Emzeeshady
Canada4203 Posts
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dcemuser
United States3248 Posts
I said 8 months ago that "within 6 months, Kespa would be half of the GSL". I was off by 2 months, but still it is funny considering how many forum regulars jumped on me for that comment (probably because the finals were Life v MVP and Kespa had only like 4-5 players in GSL). Things will probably even out from here though because there is a lot of skill in both organizations, obviously. | ||
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shid0x
Korea (South)5014 Posts
Fantasy group is staked as fuck,i hope he'll be okay,he is never lucky... Even in proleague its always flash,innovation....that faces him. Cmon lady luck fantasy could use a boost ! | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On June 13 2013 14:01 Dvriel wrote: Please, Chobra, understad this: If every single WCS out of Korea take this format nad make it succeed its because IT WORKS perfectly. Now, you come and screw it with your unknown "logictics". If you are not prepared,just dont do it, WTF!!! You already know its a shit and almost everyone is pissed. I want to see the best players advance, because I expect the best quality of games from the best players in the world. Dont wanna see flash being dropped, because the Zergs decide to baneling bust him every game. The cheese is not the best way to show your skill and you are promoving this. Where is the LOGICstic here???? Explain yourself better, because NO ONE will understand you. Chobra isn't the decision maker. What do you want him to do? Relay your message to the higher ups? Give me a break, you guys need to understand that this structure has been used for quite some time and they do tend to switch things up from time to time. Unknown logistics? This is built for a Television cast. You saw Flash got dropped in the GSL format as well bud and you won't see cheese every game. Have you watched PL? More often than not the players in PL scout very thoroughly and are on top of their shit. Those kind of tactics aren't the be all end all. | ||
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rasers
Sweden691 Posts
On June 13 2013 13:36 Caihead wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=177348 Already happened. Am I upset that flash lost in that tournament? Yes. Am I hating on the format for it? No. And as you can see from the recommend games poll, they were great games to watch. and if i remember correctly those 2 games Flash lost werent any cheese games. they were long "macro" (i hate calling normal games like that T_T) games. pretty sure the game vs Classic ended with some battle cruiser stuff. so yeah dunno why people think just because it is bo1 u will suddenly see 50 cheese games. | ||
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Laryleprakon
New Zealand9496 Posts
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jiberish
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Lokken_8
Czech Republic69 Posts
Hopefuly, they can do more in sense of production quality, considering what went on at Season 1 finals... | ||
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