On June 13 2013 12:07 Caihead wrote: Some how group G and H has 6/8 ESF.
I hope my reputation as an anti-elephanist would allow me to say following without stirring any shit up: i think theyre just trying to ensure there are ESF guys in the playoffs for excitement purposes.
On June 13 2013 12:13 movac wrote: This should be the last WCS event that OGN get's to host. Blizzard should just let GOM do it from now on and let the OSL be it's own separate event. bo1 and unknown maps is really absurd.
KeSPA must be really flexing their political power now that they've got a such a big pool of talented players.
What this bo1 group format does is what pro league does, gives a player one week to prepare for a specific player and map and do their absolute best. This will probably heavily favor kespa or anyone who plays in pro league. It is different but it is no more random than a bo3 IMO because it is a week in between each game.
Stop talking about group of death, it's bo1 format in the first round so it's completely pointless and quite frankly stupid to talk about. It's proven time and time again(for example the last sc2 OSL) that at this lvl of gameplay, when introducing bo1 it almost always creates significantly surprising results, because a bo1 is so volatile.
On June 13 2013 12:12 HonorZ wrote: One thing I really don't understand : the WCS system is supposed to be the same for each country... Why didn't they just apply the same format than GSL ?
Because it's not a GSL, it's an OSL, which has been running (basically) the same way for a decade. And I thought everyone on TL was pissed at WCS "taking over" GSL? Now you *want* WCS to interfere with OSL? Talk about talking out of both sides of your mouth.
On June 13 2013 12:12 HonorZ wrote: One thing I really don't understand : the WCS system is supposed to be the same for each country... Why didn't they just apply the same format than GSL ?
Because it's not a GSL, it's an OSL, which has been running (basically) the same way for a decade. And I thought everyone on TL was pissed at WCS "taking over" GSL? Now you *want* WCS to interfere with OSL? Talk about talking out of both sides of your mouth.
I think that would be operating under the assumption that the majority was okay when the OSL was using a Bo1 format, which from my observation, wasn't the case.
I don't recall the last OSL and the relative skill levels of the players, but I feel that this format could really lend itself to some very interesting upsets in the first group stage. The second one should actually favor the better player, as it's an extra match for everyone compared to the GSL format. Should be very interesting.
On June 13 2013 09:56 xuanzue wrote: it seems to be bo1
the group E bring all the hype
No, only one map is listed because loser picks next map.
Format has been confirmed to copy GSL's already, so BO3s as normal.
They're playing 2 groups a day. It's bo1.
Wow really, OSL's format is FUBAR.
They are no doubt constricted by sponsorship. Or lack of thereof.
On June 13 2013 12:07 Caihead wrote: Some how group G and H has 6/8 ESF.
I hope my reputation as an anti-elephanist would allow me to say following without stirring any shit up: i think theyre just trying to ensure there are ESF guys in the playoffs for excitement purposes.
either that or the RNG gods be praised.
as much as I'd like to stand in the righteous corner and call for fair competition yada yada yada i think when the fate of a 13 year old franchise is on the line there is no place for RNG.
On June 13 2013 11:21 BLinD-RawR wrote: before someone goes on a rant about Bo1 again remind yourself that OGN is a TV channel with many shows a day and they simply do not have time for 5 Bo3s a day.
it sucks but thats the way it is.
if that was the case then ro16 would also be bo1. theirs actually 0 reason for it to be bo1.
it's always been bo1 seems like a pretty good reason to me.
the GSL of 2011 was bo1 in the ro32
Yeah, and no one wants to go back to that. Everyone agreed that when GSL moved away from bo1 that it was a good decision, and it is.
Be careful saying everyone, I prefer prepared Bo1's. It makes the matches that much more intense and favours those who prepare the most. It's the opposite of the MLG/DH structure of a shit ton of generic games with little preparation. With the bigger maps and longer games these days Bo1 can work; as it did in BW and still does in proleague.
I too like watching protosses die to a 2 gate proxy on their ramp.
On June 13 2013 09:56 xuanzue wrote: it seems to be bo1
the group E bring all the hype
No, only one map is listed because loser picks next map.
Format has been confirmed to copy GSL's already, so BO3s as normal.
They're playing 2 groups a day. It's bo1.
Wow really, OSL's format is FUBAR.
They are no doubt constricted by sponsorship. Or lack of thereof.
On June 13 2013 12:07 Caihead wrote: Some how group G and H has 6/8 ESF.
I hope my reputation as an anti-elephanist would allow me to say following without stirring any shit up: i think theyre just trying to ensure there are ESF guys in the playoffs for excitement purposes.
either that or the RNG gods be praised.
as much as I'd like to stand in the righteous corner and call for fair competition yada yada yada i think when the fate of a 13 year old franchise is on the line there is no place for RNG.
I find it odd that Blizz didn't ask GSL and OSL to have a similar format. Kinda weird to have essentially the same tournament (if we continue to call them WCS Korea instead of GSL and OSL respectively) have alternating formats. And GOM will handle Challenger league, so it's only Premier league that will have changing formats. Uniformity would have been nice, though I do respect the decision to have each league retain some form of identity.
Overall it's not a big change though. Everyone is crying about Bo1, but you'd be surprised how well it has worked so far in OSL. Although it does give Shine a chance to make it to the semis, haha
At the very least it gives YuGiOh a chance too >.>
I consider group G due to the fact that both Parting and Squirtle are inside, along with Yonghwa, who is unpredictable and Supernova, who is really strong against protoss.
On June 13 2013 12:29 lichter wrote: I find it odd that Blizz didn't ask GSL and OSL to have a similar format. Kinda weird to have essentially the same tournament (if we continue to call them WCS Korea instead of GSL and OSL respectively) have alternating formats. And GOM will handle Challenger league, so it's only Premier league that will have changing formats. Uniformity would have been nice, though I do respect the decision to have each league retain some form of identity.
Overall it's not a big change though. Everyone is crying about Bo1, but you'd be surprised how well it has worked so far in OSL. Although it does give Shine a chance to make it to the semis, haha
At the very least it gives YuGiOh a chance too >.>
On June 13 2013 11:06 Gary Oak wrote: Best of 1? Seriously? Ugh, that's so incredibly disappointing. Code S quality went up by orders of magnitude when they switched away from the crappy Bo1 format. I miss GOM already.
Gom has not at any point had the same bo1 system of the OSL. If they did bo1 groups all at once then it would be bad but in the OSL each player plays 1 game a week vs a known player on a known map. That is NOT random and does not increase the odds of good players losing. If it does anything it gives pro league players an advantage because it is exactly what pro league players do every week.
EPT
