EPTMLG Anaheim: 128 Player Open Tournament - Page 5
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asongdotnet
United States1060 Posts
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SCST
Mexico1609 Posts
On June 01 2013 00:55 bsdaemon wrote: Imo, maybe everyone is still looking at how MLG tournaments should work within WCS. WCS changed a lot of things in SCII and it will take Blizz and tournament organizers a while to polish everything. We should give it time and a chance to grow. Also, didn't Sundance say in SOTG that this announcement is late because they were still working things out with Blizz or whoever? It's clear from the last Inside the Game talking about this that it's really just MLG trying to be cheap asses about the open qualifiers. They wanted to do an invite only tournament but wanted the WCS points as well. They were told they can't have both. So instead of figuring out a solution expediently they apparently took weeks/months trying to barter some kind of deal with Blizzard and came up with this pathetic excuse for a tournament. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't be pissed if Starcraft was on the decline viewership/sponsorship-wise, but it's not. It's on the freaking rise. There is no reason for this bullshit other than incompetence. MLG will get more viewers than ever before and they choose to gut their Starcraft presentation? 25 games only? They don't deserve any mercy on this, especially considering they won the bid for WCS that could have gone to a more deserving studio. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
I always assumed that both were in the same building, but I guess the production staff could just move. | ||
NonY
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freerolll
Belgium1056 Posts
On June 01 2013 00:51 Plansix wrote: Well they are behind EU because they already had a studio and were producing LCS for Riot. It takes some time to get a good production staff and a studio that isn't also your office space. I am willing to give them one more season as long as they announce a better, upgraded studio and more production staff. Isnt MLG producing the LCS NA devision? I thought they did or atleast worked togheter with riot! | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On June 01 2013 01:01 freerolll wrote: Isnt MLG producing the LCS NA devision? I thought they did or atleast worked togheter with riot! No, Riot does that themselves with their own production company and studio. | ||
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Grovbolle
Denmark3815 Posts
Seems fine to me, smaller event is great | ||
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odE
Finland177 Posts
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SCST
Mexico1609 Posts
On June 01 2013 01:03 odE wrote: Stop whining please, be glad they are offering a tournament. Excited to watch the tournament.. Wish there was more streams though. Way to settle. HoTs has more viewership than Wings and people are preaching that we should be satisfied with a massive downgrade in production and effort by MLG. This is exactly the wrong approach to deal with this. | ||
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Qwyn
United States2781 Posts
Utterly pathetic by MLG. Disgusted by this . . . please fire them Blizzard. For the love of God, can't you see these guys don't give a shit about Starcraft anymore? Hire/support NASL for a big event, even WCS - at least it's clear they cared. This is rediculous. The fact that they are establishing an open despite being constricted by the WCS system? If there is anyone you should lather this toxicity on it's the WCS system itself, not MLG. The only valid complaint here IMO is the lack of partner streams for the lower rounds. Done right and it's a lot of great content <3. | ||
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Thinasy
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liberate71
Australia10252 Posts
On June 01 2013 00:42 Zaphid wrote: People are quick to bitch because if you want to play/see offline SC2 event in USA, it's MLG only. NASL has no plans, IPL is dead. EU has ESL doing killer job with WCS, Dreamhack is also upping their game every event. MLG has no pressure to outdo itself. I'm sure their employees aren't going "meh, that'll do", but it's hard to shake that feeling. Whilst I can see what you are saying; the effect is lost on me. The biggest 'esports' event we have here, is about 500 people every 3 months at a LAN in a University Gym. Approx 40 of those people play SC2, and probably half of those again are Diamond or above. The other option is to travel 3000+kms to the other side of the country to attend events which, would have the crowd capacity of a quiet day at GSTL. Oh wait we have WCS Oceania once a year!  but hey, at least GSL is on at 5:00pm for us? :D Just seems people are overly quick to be negative nancys. | ||
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SCST
Mexico1609 Posts
On June 01 2013 01:05 Qwyn wrote: Oh my god. It breaks my heart to see all these complaints regarding another tourney which MLG is willingly setting up with a $25k (that's not a small number in any regard, face it our community has been spoiled) prizepool... This is rediculous. The fact that they are establishing an open despite being constricted by the WCS system? If there is anyone you should lather this toxicity on it's the WCS system itself, not MLG. The only valid complaint here IMO is the lack of partner streams for the lower rounds. Done right and it's a lot of great content <3. Again settling. It's a massive downgrade from previous productions. WCS should have little to no bearing on this whatsoever. Please explain how WCS has an effect on MLG choosing to lower their prize pool massively and cut their streamed games to just 25? | ||
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SChlafmann
France725 Posts
This will be interesting. | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On June 01 2013 01:05 Thinasy wrote: So no open bracket at the last MLG and people bitched and now there is an open bracket and people bitch about WCS and prize pool, never change Well some people want an open bracket and a stream to each game that is played in the bracket, live. They also want unlimited production and invites for all of the best players, including the entire Kespa roster. Lucky, they are a small number of folks. | ||
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MLG X Factor
United States6 Posts
On June 01 2013 00:45 Straxis wrote: can someone explain what is a "Tier 1 WCS event? this is the first place where i've seen the term used Players can earn points from tournaments or other non WCS events. Those events are broken down into "Tier 1" and "Tier 2" events. It just means that Tier 1 events give out much more points then a Tier 2 event. On a side note, I do find it crazy that people are complaining so much. WCS has been nothing short of awesome. Great content every single day from both EU and AM on top of the already great daily content that was GSL, now WCS KR. Then people complain like crazy that non-AM players are playing in the WCS AM, then praise Shoutcraft for having an AM only event, then complain that the MLG is going to be weak because it will be a majority of AM players only. Make up your mind people. On top of all of that, players want those WCS badly. Getting into the final WCS event equals a lot of money. Huge prize pool for the end of the year tournament. Getting as many points from extra tournaments is huge. They will show up, despite the 25k prize pool. (Btw, I don't work for MLG or anything, I just used (my username) as a gamertag when I first started attending Halo tournaments at MLG. I was awful.) | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On June 01 2013 01:07 SCST wrote: Again settling. It's a massive downgrade from previous productions. WCS should have little to no bearing on this whatsoever. Please explain how WCS has an effect on MLG choosing to lower their prize pool massively and cut their streamed games to just 25? They said on Reddit, they are shelling out 100K for WCS and are limited in the amount of cash on hand they can put into the prize pool. The number of streams may be limited by any number of things, including bandwith at the venue or the number of casters they have or production crew. | ||
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archonOOid
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shell
Portugal2722 Posts
MLG keeps getting worse imo.. Between ESL, DH, AsusROG, NASL, IP and of course GSL etc. it's clearly the worse and the one with the most glaring flaws and mistakes! Not hyped at all... | ||
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