The one thing that worries me is the combination of "128 player" and "open bracket". There were enough problems with the WCS qualifiers where legitimate players weren't getting spots with 512 players, and now it's open registration for (fewer than) 128 spots? Even if certain pro players get reserved spots, MLG doesn't have a good track record of choosing players to get those spots...
On June 01 2013 00:09 PixelNite wrote: Prizepool and number of broadcasted matches seems really low. Cool to see the event having WCS points on the line
That was a given though for all majors.
On June 01 2013 01:44 sitromit wrote:
On June 01 2013 01:41 Plansix wrote:
On June 01 2013 01:38 sitromit wrote: So since they say they're "reaching out" to teams to see if they want reserved open bracket tickets and there are no invites, this means MLG isn't flying anyone in, no Kespa players, no Life, no Innovation, all we get is a few Koreans from EG and Liquid?
Yeah. It's almost like its fair and doesn't give anyone special treatment.
We'll see when the stream numbers roll in, what people really want to watch. Wanna bet if it'll reach the last final's numbers?
I see nothing wrong with pampering legit pro gamers. If anything it should make them want to attend your events more. Players deserve to be treated well.
I don't know if any of the top Korean players would be interested in slogging through the MLG open bracket. I don't know what MLG would need to go to get Innovation, Life and Flash to attend without offering to drop them directly into the group stage.
If there are no top Koreans whatsoever and Axeltoss/Axslav are casting the whole event, I really can't see this being successful. What's the draw of the tournament if it's just a bunch of foreigners + Hero/Taeja being given charity WCS points? I already saw foreigners get their asses kicked in WCS NA. I don't need to see it again.
On June 01 2013 00:09 PixelNite wrote: Prizepool and number of broadcasted matches seems really low. Cool to see the event having WCS points on the line
That was a given though for all majors.
On June 01 2013 01:44 sitromit wrote:
On June 01 2013 01:41 Plansix wrote:
On June 01 2013 01:38 sitromit wrote: So since they say they're "reaching out" to teams to see if they want reserved open bracket tickets and there are no invites, this means MLG isn't flying anyone in, no Kespa players, no Life, no Innovation, all we get is a few Koreans from EG and Liquid?
Yeah. It's almost like its fair and doesn't give anyone special treatment.
We'll see when the stream numbers roll in, what people really want to watch. Wanna bet if it'll reach the last final's numbers?
I see nothing wrong with pampering legit pro gamers. If anything it should make them want to attend your events more. Players deserve to be treated well.
I don't know if any of the top Korean players would be interested in slogging through the MLG open bracket. I don't know what MLG would need to go to get Innovation, Life and Flash to attend without offering to drop them directly into the group stage.
WCS points. With Asus back, MLG back, IEM season starting in August, HSC and so on, european players, EGTL players and a few others will start gaining a lot of WCS points until the year ends. Life for example dropped out early in GSL in the first season, if he wants to reach the top 16 at the end of the year, he should attend a few international events.
On June 01 2013 00:09 PixelNite wrote: Prizepool and number of broadcasted matches seems really low. Cool to see the event having WCS points on the line
That was a given though for all majors.
On June 01 2013 01:44 sitromit wrote:
On June 01 2013 01:41 Plansix wrote:
On June 01 2013 01:38 sitromit wrote: So since they say they're "reaching out" to teams to see if they want reserved open bracket tickets and there are no invites, this means MLG isn't flying anyone in, no Kespa players, no Life, no Innovation, all we get is a few Koreans from EG and Liquid?
Yeah. It's almost like its fair and doesn't give anyone special treatment.
We'll see when the stream numbers roll in, what people really want to watch. Wanna bet if it'll reach the last final's numbers?
I see nothing wrong with pampering legit pro gamers. If anything it should make them want to attend your events more. Players deserve to be treated well.
I don't know if any of the top Korean players would be interested in slogging through the MLG open bracket. I don't know what MLG would need to go to get Innovation, Life and Flash to attend without offering to drop them directly into the group stage.
If there are no top Koreans whatsoever and Axeltoss/Axslav are casting the whole event, I really can't see this being successful. What's the draw of the tournament if it's just a bunch of foreigners + Hero/Taeja being given charity WCS points? I already saw foreigners get their asses kicked in WCS NA. I don't need to see it again.
Is that official? I haven´t seen a caster announcement yet, but I really hope, they bring in a few others; casting the entire tourney will really exhaust those two and tbh. they aren´t exactly the biggest/best names as well.
On June 01 2013 00:09 PixelNite wrote: Prizepool and number of broadcasted matches seems really low. Cool to see the event having WCS points on the line
That was a given though for all majors.
On June 01 2013 01:44 sitromit wrote:
On June 01 2013 01:41 Plansix wrote:
On June 01 2013 01:38 sitromit wrote: So since they say they're "reaching out" to teams to see if they want reserved open bracket tickets and there are no invites, this means MLG isn't flying anyone in, no Kespa players, no Life, no Innovation, all we get is a few Koreans from EG and Liquid?
Yeah. It's almost like its fair and doesn't give anyone special treatment.
We'll see when the stream numbers roll in, what people really want to watch. Wanna bet if it'll reach the last final's numbers?
I see nothing wrong with pampering legit pro gamers. If anything it should make them want to attend your events more. Players deserve to be treated well.
I don't know if any of the top Korean players would be interested in slogging through the MLG open bracket. I don't know what MLG would need to go to get Innovation, Life and Flash to attend without offering to drop them directly into the group stage.
WCS points. With Asus back, MLG back, IEM season starting in August, HSC and so on, european players, EGTL players and a few others will start gaining a lot of WCS points until the year ends. Life for example dropped out early in GSL in the first season, if he wants to reach the top 16 at the end of the year, he should attend a few international events.
Only foreign teams send their players to foreign events on their own dime, Korean teams can't afford it. Another way for players on foreign teams to pad their WCS points with easier competitions, I guess.
On June 01 2013 00:09 PixelNite wrote: Prizepool and number of broadcasted matches seems really low. Cool to see the event having WCS points on the line
That was a given though for all majors.
On June 01 2013 01:44 sitromit wrote:
On June 01 2013 01:41 Plansix wrote:
On June 01 2013 01:38 sitromit wrote: So since they say they're "reaching out" to teams to see if they want reserved open bracket tickets and there are no invites, this means MLG isn't flying anyone in, no Kespa players, no Life, no Innovation, all we get is a few Koreans from EG and Liquid?
Yeah. It's almost like its fair and doesn't give anyone special treatment.
We'll see when the stream numbers roll in, what people really want to watch. Wanna bet if it'll reach the last final's numbers?
I see nothing wrong with pampering legit pro gamers. If anything it should make them want to attend your events more. Players deserve to be treated well.
I don't know if any of the top Korean players would be interested in slogging through the MLG open bracket. I don't know what MLG would need to go to get Innovation, Life and Flash to attend without offering to drop them directly into the group stage.
If there are no top Koreans whatsoever and Axeltoss/Axslav are casting the whole event, I really can't see this being successful. What's the draw of the tournament if it's just a bunch of foreigners + Hero/Taeja being given charity WCS points? I already saw foreigners get their asses kicked in WCS NA. I don't need to see it again.
I don't know who is casting. DJWheat said he was invited to cast all the events on this weeks ITG, so we might not know who the casters are. I am sure that MLG can get enough good casters from the NA scene to make the event enjoyable.
On June 01 2013 00:09 PixelNite wrote: Prizepool and number of broadcasted matches seems really low. Cool to see the event having WCS points on the line
That was a given though for all majors.
On June 01 2013 01:44 sitromit wrote:
On June 01 2013 01:41 Plansix wrote:
On June 01 2013 01:38 sitromit wrote: So since they say they're "reaching out" to teams to see if they want reserved open bracket tickets and there are no invites, this means MLG isn't flying anyone in, no Kespa players, no Life, no Innovation, all we get is a few Koreans from EG and Liquid?
Yeah. It's almost like its fair and doesn't give anyone special treatment.
We'll see when the stream numbers roll in, what people really want to watch. Wanna bet if it'll reach the last final's numbers?
I see nothing wrong with pampering legit pro gamers. If anything it should make them want to attend your events more. Players deserve to be treated well.
I don't know if any of the top Korean players would be interested in slogging through the MLG open bracket. I don't know what MLG would need to go to get Innovation, Life and Flash to attend without offering to drop them directly into the group stage.
WCS points. With Asus back, MLG back, IEM season starting in August, HSC and so on, european players, EGTL players and a few others will start gaining a lot of WCS points until the year ends. Life for example dropped out early in GSL in the first season, if he wants to reach the top 16 at the end of the year, he should attend a few international events.
Only foreign teams send their players to foreign events on their own dime, Korean teams can't afford it. Another way for players on foreign teams to pad their WCS points with easier competitions, I guess.
Also, Proleague exists and a bunch of the high level Korean players may not be willing to give up so much practice time for proleague. Getting people to fly across the world to compete in an event is hard when those players have their own shit going on.
On June 01 2013 00:09 PixelNite wrote: Prizepool and number of broadcasted matches seems really low. Cool to see the event having WCS points on the line
That was a given though for all majors.
On June 01 2013 01:44 sitromit wrote:
On June 01 2013 01:41 Plansix wrote:
On June 01 2013 01:38 sitromit wrote: So since they say they're "reaching out" to teams to see if they want reserved open bracket tickets and there are no invites, this means MLG isn't flying anyone in, no Kespa players, no Life, no Innovation, all we get is a few Koreans from EG and Liquid?
Yeah. It's almost like its fair and doesn't give anyone special treatment.
We'll see when the stream numbers roll in, what people really want to watch. Wanna bet if it'll reach the last final's numbers?
I see nothing wrong with pampering legit pro gamers. If anything it should make them want to attend your events more. Players deserve to be treated well.
I don't know if any of the top Korean players would be interested in slogging through the MLG open bracket. I don't know what MLG would need to go to get Innovation, Life and Flash to attend without offering to drop them directly into the group stage.
WCS points. With Asus back, MLG back, IEM season starting in August, HSC and so on, european players, EGTL players and a few others will start gaining a lot of WCS points until the year ends. Life for example dropped out early in GSL in the first season, if he wants to reach the top 16 at the end of the year, he should attend a few international events.
Only foreign teams send their players to foreign events on their own dime, Korean teams can't afford it. Another way for players on foreign teams to pad their WCS points with easier competitions, I guess.
LGIM sent (correct past?) quite a few players to IEM´s last year, FXO had players at the last DH and AFAIK kespa teams should be richer than ESF ones. Also a player like Innovation or Life will most likely make more prize than his flight costs.
On June 01 2013 02:00 TeslasPigeon wrote: The event seems decent enough, I wonder who they will invite to the tournament? I think it should be the top 4 from each region using WCS standings.
They won't invite anyone. You'll see Joe Schmoes duking it out against mid-tier Koreans on foreign teams.
On June 01 2013 00:09 PixelNite wrote: Prizepool and number of broadcasted matches seems really low. Cool to see the event having WCS points on the line
That was a given though for all majors.
On June 01 2013 01:44 sitromit wrote:
On June 01 2013 01:41 Plansix wrote:
On June 01 2013 01:38 sitromit wrote: So since they say they're "reaching out" to teams to see if they want reserved open bracket tickets and there are no invites, this means MLG isn't flying anyone in, no Kespa players, no Life, no Innovation, all we get is a few Koreans from EG and Liquid?
Yeah. It's almost like its fair and doesn't give anyone special treatment.
We'll see when the stream numbers roll in, what people really want to watch. Wanna bet if it'll reach the last final's numbers?
I see nothing wrong with pampering legit pro gamers. If anything it should make them want to attend your events more. Players deserve to be treated well.
I don't know if any of the top Korean players would be interested in slogging through the MLG open bracket. I don't know what MLG would need to go to get Innovation, Life and Flash to attend without offering to drop them directly into the group stage.
WCS points. With Asus back, MLG back, IEM season starting in August, HSC and so on, european players, EGTL players and a few others will start gaining a lot of WCS points until the year ends. Life for example dropped out early in GSL in the first season, if he wants to reach the top 16 at the end of the year, he should attend a few international events.
Only foreign teams send their players to foreign events on their own dime, Korean teams can't afford it. Another way for players on foreign teams to pad their WCS points with easier competitions, I guess.
Also, Proleague exists and a bunch of the high level Korean players may not be willing to give up so much practice time for proleague. Getting people to fly across the world to compete in an event is hard when those players have their own shit going on.
Maybe ProLeague should award some WCS points, too.
On June 01 2013 00:09 PixelNite wrote: Prizepool and number of broadcasted matches seems really low. Cool to see the event having WCS points on the line
That was a given though for all majors.
On June 01 2013 01:44 sitromit wrote:
On June 01 2013 01:41 Plansix wrote:
On June 01 2013 01:38 sitromit wrote: So since they say they're "reaching out" to teams to see if they want reserved open bracket tickets and there are no invites, this means MLG isn't flying anyone in, no Kespa players, no Life, no Innovation, all we get is a few Koreans from EG and Liquid?
Yeah. It's almost like its fair and doesn't give anyone special treatment.
We'll see when the stream numbers roll in, what people really want to watch. Wanna bet if it'll reach the last final's numbers?
I see nothing wrong with pampering legit pro gamers. If anything it should make them want to attend your events more. Players deserve to be treated well.
I don't know if any of the top Korean players would be interested in slogging through the MLG open bracket. I don't know what MLG would need to go to get Innovation, Life and Flash to attend without offering to drop them directly into the group stage.
WCS points. With Asus back, MLG back, IEM season starting in August, HSC and so on, european players, EGTL players and a few others will start gaining a lot of WCS points until the year ends. Life for example dropped out early in GSL in the first season, if he wants to reach the top 16 at the end of the year, he should attend a few international events.
Only foreign teams send their players to foreign events on their own dime, Korean teams can't afford it. Another way for players on foreign teams to pad their WCS points with easier competitions, I guess.
Also, Proleague exists and a bunch of the high level Korean players may not be willing to give up so much practice time for proleague. Getting people to fly across the world to compete in an event is hard when those players have their own shit going on.
Maybe ProLeague should give out some WCS points, too.
How would you give out WCS points to a team tournament? If you base it on teams winning, random B-teamers will get underserved points, if you give it out on performance, players have to rely on good draws/coach desicions.
Also Proleague is invite-only, that alone make it impossible to give WCS points out on that.
On June 01 2013 00:09 PixelNite wrote: Prizepool and number of broadcasted matches seems really low. Cool to see the event having WCS points on the line
That was a given though for all majors.
On June 01 2013 01:44 sitromit wrote:
On June 01 2013 01:41 Plansix wrote:
On June 01 2013 01:38 sitromit wrote: So since they say they're "reaching out" to teams to see if they want reserved open bracket tickets and there are no invites, this means MLG isn't flying anyone in, no Kespa players, no Life, no Innovation, all we get is a few Koreans from EG and Liquid?
Yeah. It's almost like its fair and doesn't give anyone special treatment.
We'll see when the stream numbers roll in, what people really want to watch. Wanna bet if it'll reach the last final's numbers?
I see nothing wrong with pampering legit pro gamers. If anything it should make them want to attend your events more. Players deserve to be treated well.
I don't know if any of the top Korean players would be interested in slogging through the MLG open bracket. I don't know what MLG would need to go to get Innovation, Life and Flash to attend without offering to drop them directly into the group stage.
WCS points. With Asus back, MLG back, IEM season starting in August, HSC and so on, european players, EGTL players and a few others will start gaining a lot of WCS points until the year ends. Life for example dropped out early in GSL in the first season, if he wants to reach the top 16 at the end of the year, he should attend a few international events.
Only foreign teams send their players to foreign events on their own dime, Korean teams can't afford it. Another way for players on foreign teams to pad their WCS points with easier competitions, I guess.
Also, Proleague exists and a bunch of the high level Korean players may not be willing to give up so much practice time for proleague. Getting people to fly across the world to compete in an event is hard when those players have their own shit going on.
Maybe ProLeague should give out some WCS points, too.
Its not really an league with an open bracket or anything that even resembles WCS beyond the fact that it has SC2.
Meh, a step back for MLG from the Dallas event and last year's events and the lowered prize pool is disappointing. No korean invites like previous champ Life will make this a less interesting event for me. WCS ruining more tourneys with their damn system and points. R.I.P. old MLG! I'll miss you!
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R.I.P. old MLG! I'll miss you!
