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MLG Anaheim: 128 Player Open Tournament - Page 4

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Straxis
Profile Joined August 2012
85 Posts
May 31 2013 15:45 GMT
#61
can someone explain what is a "Tier 1 WCS event? this is the first place where i've seen the term used
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
May 31 2013 15:45 GMT
#62
GSL and OSL prize pool cut in half, number of tournaments reduced, MLG prize pool cut down to a 3rd of what it was. WCS is doing more harm than good, it looks like to the Korean scene.
Dinotramp
Profile Joined August 2012
Nauru2871 Posts
May 31 2013 15:46 GMT
#63
On June 01 2013 00:45 Negius wrote:
Heh, I don't like it very much, but with the main focus on WCS from Blizzard, I can understand this desicionmaking.
I think tournaments like MLG will have to step back a bit, to make sure the WCS system can grow (yes, I like the WCS system now, even with its flaws).

Maybe they will go all out during the WCS Global Finals Season 3. That seems to me a pretty good reason to keep the SC2 sector at MLG events a bit lower.

Remember, MLG is also a big part of WCS, so maybe it isn't cost-effective to host two large tournaments.


Has it been confirmed then that the Season 3 Finals are in NA and EU is Season 2? I've not seen that announced...
RIP Starcraft scene in the UK. Defeated by EG money and Swedish Zergs.
CountZero71
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany89 Posts
May 31 2013 15:48 GMT
#64
At least they DO have SC2 at all!!
You cannot kill what doesn't die...
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 31 2013 15:49 GMT
#65
On June 01 2013 00:46 Dinotramp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2013 00:45 Negius wrote:
Heh, I don't like it very much, but with the main focus on WCS from Blizzard, I can understand this desicionmaking.
I think tournaments like MLG will have to step back a bit, to make sure the WCS system can grow (yes, I like the WCS system now, even with its flaws).

Maybe they will go all out during the WCS Global Finals Season 3. That seems to me a pretty good reason to keep the SC2 sector at MLG events a bit lower.

Remember, MLG is also a big part of WCS, so maybe it isn't cost-effective to host two large tournaments.


Has it been confirmed then that the Season 3 Finals are in NA and EU is Season 2? I've not seen that announced...

It was in the main WSC announcement. One final per region and then the Grand Finals at Blizzcon.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Ichabod
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1659 Posts
May 31 2013 15:49 GMT
#66
Hopefully the scheduling of an open bracket doesn't make this a painful tournament for the top players. (In terms of playing at midnight with the first game at 8:00 AM or something, not that the level of competition will be difficult.)
arkedos
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1426 Posts
May 31 2013 15:49 GMT
#67
On June 01 2013 00:45 Negius wrote:
Heh, I don't like it very much, but with the main focus on WCS from Blizzard, I can understand this desicionmaking.
I think tournaments like MLG will have to step back a bit, to make sure the WCS system can grow (yes, I like the WCS system now, even with its flaws).

Maybe they will go all out during the WCS Global Finals Season 3. That seems to me a pretty good reason to keep the SC2 sector at MLG events a bit lower.

Remember, MLG is also a big part of WCS, so maybe it isn't cost-effective to host two large tournaments.



Pretty much this. although MLG has quite a bit of homework to do because WCS NA was largely inferior to EU and KR.
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YataGarasu
Profile Joined May 2013
United States1 Post
May 31 2013 15:51 GMT
#68
Players and MLG are focused on WCS at the moment; thus, even if they did have multiple streams, Anaheim would not be as entertaining as the previous Dallas event.
Play with determination and vigor; play to your potential.
Dinotramp
Profile Joined August 2012
Nauru2871 Posts
May 31 2013 15:51 GMT
#69
On June 01 2013 00:49 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2013 00:46 Dinotramp wrote:
On June 01 2013 00:45 Negius wrote:
Heh, I don't like it very much, but with the main focus on WCS from Blizzard, I can understand this desicionmaking.
I think tournaments like MLG will have to step back a bit, to make sure the WCS system can grow (yes, I like the WCS system now, even with its flaws).

Maybe they will go all out during the WCS Global Finals Season 3. That seems to me a pretty good reason to keep the SC2 sector at MLG events a bit lower.

Remember, MLG is also a big part of WCS, so maybe it isn't cost-effective to host two large tournaments.


Has it been confirmed then that the Season 3 Finals are in NA and EU is Season 2? I've not seen that announced...

It was in the main WSC announcement. One final per region and then the Grand Finals at Blizzcon.


But they never said which order the last two would be in?
RIP Starcraft scene in the UK. Defeated by EG money and Swedish Zergs.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 31 2013 15:51 GMT
#70
On June 01 2013 00:49 arkedos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2013 00:45 Negius wrote:
Heh, I don't like it very much, but with the main focus on WCS from Blizzard, I can understand this desicionmaking.
I think tournaments like MLG will have to step back a bit, to make sure the WCS system can grow (yes, I like the WCS system now, even with its flaws).

Maybe they will go all out during the WCS Global Finals Season 3. That seems to me a pretty good reason to keep the SC2 sector at MLG events a bit lower.

Remember, MLG is also a big part of WCS, so maybe it isn't cost-effective to host two large tournaments.



Pretty much this. although MLG has quite a bit of homework to do because WCS NA was largely inferior to EU and KR.


Well they are behind EU because they already had a studio and were producing LCS for Riot. It takes some time to get a good production staff and a studio that isn't also your office space. I am willing to give them one more season as long as they announce a better, upgraded studio and more production staff.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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SCST
Profile Joined November 2011
Mexico1609 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-31 23:01:19
May 31 2013 15:51 GMT
#71
Utterly pathetic by MLG.

Hire/support NASL for a big event, even WCS - at least it's clear they cared.

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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 31 2013 15:54 GMT
#72
On June 01 2013 00:51 Dinotramp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2013 00:49 Plansix wrote:
On June 01 2013 00:46 Dinotramp wrote:
On June 01 2013 00:45 Negius wrote:
Heh, I don't like it very much, but with the main focus on WCS from Blizzard, I can understand this desicionmaking.
I think tournaments like MLG will have to step back a bit, to make sure the WCS system can grow (yes, I like the WCS system now, even with its flaws).

Maybe they will go all out during the WCS Global Finals Season 3. That seems to me a pretty good reason to keep the SC2 sector at MLG events a bit lower.

Remember, MLG is also a big part of WCS, so maybe it isn't cost-effective to host two large tournaments.


Has it been confirmed then that the Season 3 Finals are in NA and EU is Season 2? I've not seen that announced...

It was in the main WSC announcement. One final per region and then the Grand Finals at Blizzcon.


But they never said which order the last two would be in?

I am not 100% sure which one is for season 2 or 3, but I know the information was out there. EU for season 2 and NA for season 3 sounds right.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
May 31 2013 15:54 GMT
#73
On June 01 2013 00:51 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2013 00:49 arkedos wrote:
On June 01 2013 00:45 Negius wrote:
Heh, I don't like it very much, but with the main focus on WCS from Blizzard, I can understand this desicionmaking.
I think tournaments like MLG will have to step back a bit, to make sure the WCS system can grow (yes, I like the WCS system now, even with its flaws).

Maybe they will go all out during the WCS Global Finals Season 3. That seems to me a pretty good reason to keep the SC2 sector at MLG events a bit lower.

Remember, MLG is also a big part of WCS, so maybe it isn't cost-effective to host two large tournaments.



Pretty much this. although MLG has quite a bit of homework to do because WCS NA was largely inferior to EU and KR.


Well they are behind EU because they already had a studio and were producing LCS for Riot. It takes some time to get a good production staff and a studio that isn't also your office space. I am willing to give them one more season as long as they announce a better, upgraded studio and more production staff.

WCS EU studio and LCS studio were separate as far as I know and saw.
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Rainman5419
Profile Joined January 2011
United States92 Posts
May 31 2013 15:55 GMT
#74
On June 01 2013 00:23 Waxangel wrote:
It's basically DreamHack Open in terms of scale and prize, but without the 230984390 partner streams for lower rounds?

I think as long as they're going in this direction it could really help to have some partner streams (or self produced sub-streams) for the lower round matches, though it would depend on what the player list looks like.


I agree. Great to have open bracket back, but some broadcasting of those guys would be awesome.
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Dinotramp
Profile Joined August 2012
Nauru2871 Posts
May 31 2013 15:55 GMT
#75
On June 01 2013 00:54 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2013 00:51 Plansix wrote:
On June 01 2013 00:49 arkedos wrote:
On June 01 2013 00:45 Negius wrote:
Heh, I don't like it very much, but with the main focus on WCS from Blizzard, I can understand this desicionmaking.
I think tournaments like MLG will have to step back a bit, to make sure the WCS system can grow (yes, I like the WCS system now, even with its flaws).

Maybe they will go all out during the WCS Global Finals Season 3. That seems to me a pretty good reason to keep the SC2 sector at MLG events a bit lower.

Remember, MLG is also a big part of WCS, so maybe it isn't cost-effective to host two large tournaments.



Pretty much this. although MLG has quite a bit of homework to do because WCS NA was largely inferior to EU and KR.


Well they are behind EU because they already had a studio and were producing LCS for Riot. It takes some time to get a good production staff and a studio that isn't also your office space. I am willing to give them one more season as long as they announce a better, upgraded studio and more production staff.

WCS EU studio and LCS studio were separate as far as I know and saw.


This is correct
RIP Starcraft scene in the UK. Defeated by EG money and Swedish Zergs.
bsdaemon
Profile Joined July 2012
618 Posts
May 31 2013 15:55 GMT
#76
Imo, maybe everyone is still looking at how MLG tournaments should work within WCS. WCS changed a lot of things in SCII and it will take Blizz and tournament organizers a while to polish everything. We should give it time and a chance to grow.

Also, didn't Sundance say in SOTG that this announcement is late because they were still working things out with Blizz or whoever?
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-31 15:57:19
May 31 2013 15:56 GMT
#77
On June 01 2013 00:23 Waxangel wrote:
It's basically DreamHack Open in terms of scale and prize, but without the 230984390 partner streams for lower rounds?

I think as long as they're going in this direction it could really help to have some partner streams (or self produced sub-streams) for the lower round matches, though it would depend on what the player list looks like.

You know they CANT ask NASL as a partner stream... The viewers would choose them over MLG main stream ^^.

Are there any other NA streamers?
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
May 31 2013 15:57 GMT
#78
On June 01 2013 00:45 Straxis wrote:
can someone explain what is a "Tier 1 WCS event? this is the first place where i've seen the term used

From what I can gather on liquipedia there are two tiers of non wcs events, T2 gives very few points while T1 gives much more (Not as much as WCS itself iirc leenock got 750 points for winning dreamhack which was T1)
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nooboon
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2602 Posts
May 31 2013 15:57 GMT
#79
It seems that MLG is shifting their SC2 focus to WCS. LANs are scaled down because less resources are being put into them and the main purposes of the MLG LAN is to provide WCS points.
TumNarDok
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany854 Posts
May 31 2013 15:57 GMT
#80
THis is your channce America.
USE IT.
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