• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:35
CEST 13:35
KST 20:35
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
2v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature2Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy8uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event17Serral wins EWC 202549Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple6SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 195Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up6LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments7[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder10
StarCraft 2
General
RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time 2v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature Is there a way to see if 2 accounts=1 person? uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments SEL Masters #5 - Korea vs Russia (SC Evo) Enki Epic Series #5 - TaeJa vs Classic (SC Evo)
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 486 Watch the Skies Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL 20 HYPE VIDEO! Soma Explains: JaeDong's Double Muta Micro BW AKA finder tool ASL20 Pre-season Tier List ranking!
Tourneys
Cosmonarchy Pro Showmatches KCM 2025 Season 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI The year 2050
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Biochemical Cost of Gami…
TrAiDoS
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1641 users

MLG Anaheim: 128 Player Open Tournament - Page 3

Forum Index > SC2 General
421 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 20 21 22 Next All
Arbee
Profile Joined September 2010
United States58 Posts
May 31 2013 15:31 GMT
#41
Yeah, I think its great to just have an open bracket back. Of course I am with everyone who hates how they have had to wait until the last minute to announce so many details, but oh well. Its a pretty decent (not single-elim, not 64 players) open bracket, which is what everyone was demanding. People should get over it and be happy about it.

The one thing that is an effect of it being announced so late, and I do wonder if it was someone's intention, is that it will make it tougher for international (aka Korean), and average scrub players to attend this late in the game. I will be interested to see if this ends up overall as a good, primarily NA tournament.

Also, I will mention that Aware Gaming is definitely recruiting good players for this and willing to help with some support . So get in touch asap, if you are serious.
Maasked
Profile Joined December 2011
United States567 Posts
May 31 2013 15:32 GMT
#42
I think Starcraft at this MLG was a last minute budget decision.
Atleast that is how it seems to me
TwitchTV as Maaasked I stream hots (rarely)
Kompicek
Profile Joined May 2008
Czech Republic245 Posts
May 31 2013 15:32 GMT
#43
every other mlg event is worse than the last. Its really going downhill hardcore What other major event has one stream? We will be enjoying open bracket via liquidpedia, yahooooo.
Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
May 31 2013 15:33 GMT
#44
On June 01 2013 00:18 BronzeKnee wrote:
There was a time when MLG had 4 streams... it was amazing.

1 stream is a huge disappointment.

Not like they sinchronized in a way that allowed to see more content properly that in they only had 1. If they cut downtimes they should be able to show us almost the same.
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
May 31 2013 15:36 GMT
#45
MLG is probably focusing more on Cawl of Dooty! Lets hope that some underdog Americans makes some splashes.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
Mormel
Profile Joined February 2012
Netherlands57 Posts
May 31 2013 15:36 GMT
#46
Took you long enough.
Don't, don't, don't belive the hype
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 31 2013 15:37 GMT
#47
On June 01 2013 00:29 sitromit wrote:
This really sucks.

I don't know why people are happy about full open bracket like this. They could have at least had separate group stage for invites and open bracket for sign-ups feeding into a championship bracket like old MLGs. All this is going to give is shitty 1 sided games until the latest rounds and bad players trying to all-in every game hoping they can get a lucky win.


They can't use invites because they may not get WCS points if they do and they have to have an open bracket to get WSC points. With no previous non-invite event this year for HotS, they have no ability to seed people into the groups stage fairly.

Also, MLG has said that running open brackets for SC2 cost a lot with little pay off. It is hard to stream the games with good production and even harder to get them on all done in a reasonable period of time. I am surprised they even have one at this event, personally.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
1handsomE
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States199 Posts
May 31 2013 15:37 GMT
#48
keep dat perspective. There was almost no starcraft at all.
MarineKing / Jaedong / DeMusliM / SeleCT / Maru hwaiting!
TestSubject893
Profile Joined September 2009
United States774 Posts
May 31 2013 15:37 GMT
#49
1 out of 8 players that show up will get WCS points. That's a pretty high amount given that everyone starts on even footing and my grandma could play if she bought a competitor pass fast enough.
I'm worried about the implications of this format. Hopefully it turns out better than what I'm envisioning.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
May 31 2013 15:38 GMT
#50
haha if they show games on a reasonable rate they show as much games with 1 stream than they used to with 4
also if there isnt a good pricepool, means not the top koreans are coming means the only thing that made mlg attractive before is now gone
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-31 15:39:27
May 31 2013 15:38 GMT
#51
On June 01 2013 00:37 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2013 00:29 sitromit wrote:
This really sucks.

I don't know why people are happy about full open bracket like this. They could have at least had separate group stage for invites and open bracket for sign-ups feeding into a championship bracket like old MLGs. All this is going to give is shitty 1 sided games until the latest rounds and bad players trying to all-in every game hoping they can get a lucky win.


They can't use invites because they may not get WCS points if they do and they have to have an open bracket to get WSC points. With no previous non-invite event this year for HotS, they have no ability to seed people into the groups stage fairly.

Also, MLG has said that running open brackets for SC2 cost a lot with little pay off. It is hard to stream the games with good production and even harder to get them on all done in a reasonable period of time. I am surprised they even have one at this event, personally.

Actually MLGAdam said on Reddit that you only need to have 25% of the tournament be open bracket (and it can be online) to get WCS points. So the decision to not have groups/invites was an MLG decision.

The prize pool is lowers because, according to Adam, they're shelling out 100k for WCS a few weeks before. I was under the impression Blizzard paid for WCS, though?
Irre
Profile Joined August 2010
United States646 Posts
May 31 2013 15:38 GMT
#52
is this where they are going to have the s1 finals for WCS? or is that happening in the NY studio...

I feel like the scaled down event will be more for the "little guys". It will make less top Koreans/EU guys want to come over for it. Meaning it will most likely be shitty games. Oh well at least they gave the open bracket everyone wanted I guess.
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
May 31 2013 15:39 GMT
#53
Bleh, double elimination - ,.-
Terran & Potato Salad.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
May 31 2013 15:39 GMT
#54
Not quite sure what to think of this.
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-31 15:40:10
May 31 2013 15:39 GMT
#55
On June 01 2013 00:37 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2013 00:29 sitromit wrote:
This really sucks.

I don't know why people are happy about full open bracket like this. They could have at least had separate group stage for invites and open bracket for sign-ups feeding into a championship bracket like old MLGs. All this is going to give is shitty 1 sided games until the latest rounds and bad players trying to all-in every game hoping they can get a lucky win.


They can't use invites because they may not get WCS points if they do and they have to have an open bracket to get WSC points. With no previous non-invite event this year for HotS, they have no ability to seed people into the groups stage fairly.

Also, MLG has said that running open brackets for SC2 cost a lot with little pay off. It is hard to stream the games with good production and even harder to get them on all done in a reasonable period of time. I am surprised they even have one at this event, personally.

They could have used invites if they wanted to, they chose not to. From reddit:

MrMLGAdam

Not true at all. Only 25% of the spots need to be 'open' for Tier 1, and open can be via online qualifiers.

MLG chose to do an Open bracket.
drugsarebad
Profile Joined January 2013
20 Posts
May 31 2013 15:41 GMT
#56
nice prizepool WCS completely fucked everything up now that it gives WCS points organizers dont even have to put up decent prizepools to attract the best players GJ
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 31 2013 15:42 GMT
#57
On June 01 2013 00:38 Shiori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2013 00:37 Plansix wrote:
On June 01 2013 00:29 sitromit wrote:
This really sucks.

I don't know why people are happy about full open bracket like this. They could have at least had separate group stage for invites and open bracket for sign-ups feeding into a championship bracket like old MLGs. All this is going to give is shitty 1 sided games until the latest rounds and bad players trying to all-in every game hoping they can get a lucky win.


They can't use invites because they may not get WCS points if they do and they have to have an open bracket to get WSC points. With no previous non-invite event this year for HotS, they have no ability to seed people into the groups stage fairly.

Also, MLG has said that running open brackets for SC2 cost a lot with little pay off. It is hard to stream the games with good production and even harder to get them on all done in a reasonable period of time. I am surprised they even have one at this event, personally.

Actually MLGAdam said on Reddit that you only need to have 25% of the tournament be open bracket (and it can be online) to get WCS points. So the decision to not have groups/invites was an MLG decision.

The prize pool is lowers because, according to Adam, they're shelling out 100k for WCS a few weeks before. I was under the impression Blizzard paid for WCS, though?


I did not see that, but it makes sense. Blizzard is covering the 100K, but they don't deposit a fat amount of money in to the "MLG account for WCS" and tell them to take it out when necessary. The contract Between Blizzard and MLG likely has a set date when they get paid each season.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Zaphid
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1860 Posts
May 31 2013 15:42 GMT
#58
On June 01 2013 00:31 liberate71 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2013 00:26 pwei wrote:
All this negativity seems to miss the point that they are putting up an open tournament in-addition to what is already happening with WCS. It seems like a good opportunity for lesser players to do well and make a name for themselves. Comparing the prize pool against previous MLGs when WCS didn't even exist doesn't seem like the right way to view things.


Nailed it

But hey, people are quick to bitch.

I'm glad there is an open tournament and people get a chance to qualify and play on the big stage, or at least play against established legends of the game.

More Starcraft 2 is a good thing, not a bad thing!

People are quick to bitch because if you want to play/see offline SC2 event in USA, it's MLG only. NASL has no plans, IPL is dead. EU has ESL doing killer job with WCS, Dreamhack is also upping their game every event. MLG has no pressure to outdo itself. I'm sure their employees aren't going "meh, that'll do", but it's hard to shake that feeling.
I will never ever play Mech against Protoss. - MVP
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 31 2013 15:43 GMT
#59
On June 01 2013 00:39 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2013 00:37 Plansix wrote:
On June 01 2013 00:29 sitromit wrote:
This really sucks.

I don't know why people are happy about full open bracket like this. They could have at least had separate group stage for invites and open bracket for sign-ups feeding into a championship bracket like old MLGs. All this is going to give is shitty 1 sided games until the latest rounds and bad players trying to all-in every game hoping they can get a lucky win.


They can't use invites because they may not get WCS points if they do and they have to have an open bracket to get WSC points. With no previous non-invite event this year for HotS, they have no ability to seed people into the groups stage fairly.

Also, MLG has said that running open brackets for SC2 cost a lot with little pay off. It is hard to stream the games with good production and even harder to get them on all done in a reasonable period of time. I am surprised they even have one at this event, personally.

They could have used invites if they wanted to, they chose not to. From reddit:

Show nested quote +
MrMLGAdam

Not true at all. Only 25% of the spots need to be 'open' for Tier 1, and open can be via online qualifiers.

MLG chose to do an Open bracket.


I just saw that and I am ok with no invites. I am tired of MLG catering to top players and Kespa by inviting them to events. Its a new game and everyone can struggle through the bracket like everyone else.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Negius
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands290 Posts
May 31 2013 15:45 GMT
#60
Heh, I don't like it very much, but with the main focus on WCS from Blizzard, I can understand this desicionmaking.
I think tournaments like MLG will have to step back a bit, to make sure the WCS system can grow (yes, I like the WCS system now, even with its flaws).

Maybe they will go all out during the WCS Global Finals Season 3. That seems to me a pretty good reason to keep the SC2 sector at MLG events a bit lower.

Remember, MLG is also a big part of WCS, so maybe it isn't cost-effective to host two large tournaments.
[Terran] mvp | maru | innovation | mma [Protoss] mc | squirtle [Zerg] nestea | soo
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 20 21 22 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Summer Champion…
11:00
Group Stage 1 - Group D
WardiTV353
IndyStarCraft 153
Rex73
Liquipedia
Sparkling Tuna Cup
10:00
Weekly #102
ByuN vs PercivalLIVE!
TriGGeR vs NightMare
CranKy Ducklings145
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 566
Hui .243
IndyStarCraft 153
Rex 73
MindelVK 27
trigger 25
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 44228
Calm 6131
Rain 2558
Pusan 467
EffOrt 370
Last 221
Soma 197
ggaemo 172
ToSsGirL 162
Hyun 96
[ Show more ]
JYJ78
Killer 59
sorry 50
Aegong 36
Sacsri 23
Hm[arnc] 22
scan(afreeca) 21
ajuk12(nOOB) 19
Sea.KH 19
Icarus 18
zelot 11
SilentControl 11
sSak 9
ivOry 4
Dota 2
XcaliburYe669
ODPixel405
Counter-Strike
x6flipin650
Other Games
gofns14713
singsing1994
B2W.Neo1475
Pyrionflax345
DeMusliM253
XaKoH 195
RotterdaM89
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
CasterMuse 31
UltimateBattle 17
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt739
Other Games
• WagamamaTV465
Upcoming Events
SC Evo League
25m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3h 25m
BSL Team Wars
7h 25m
Team Dewalt vs Team Bonyth
Afreeca Starleague
22h 25m
Sharp vs Ample
Larva vs Stork
Wardi Open
1d 3h
RotterdaM Event
1d 4h
Replay Cast
1d 12h
Replay Cast
1d 22h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 22h
JyJ vs TY
Bisu vs Speed
WardiTV Summer Champion…
1d 23h
[ Show More ]
PiGosaur Monday
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Mini vs TBD
Soma vs sSak
WardiTV Summer Champion…
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
LiuLi Cup
4 days
BSL Team Wars
5 days
Team Hawk vs Team Dewalt
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
SC Evo League
6 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
6 days
[BSL 2025] Weekly
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-08-13
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
CSL Season 18: Qualifier 1
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
HCC Europe
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLAN 3
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.