On July 18 2013 01:00 URLateral wrote: You guys need to also consider the fact that Liquids dota 2 team right now is boot camping and getting ready for Ti3 the biggest dota tournament of the year so i don't think Liquid wants to start this until after TI3 which will be august 14th i think
Thats ok, this has nothing to do with the Dota 2 team..
Yes, that is correct, but the same group of people who are dealing with TI3 are the people what would be setting up these videos. TL does not have unlimited staff.
They will get to making the funny youtube videos at some point, but its freaking busy for Esports teams right now.
It's going to be busy year round though, and EG obviously has enough staff to manage both their teams and marketing at the same time as they do all the time with the videos and such.
I'm not too terribly concerned about this tier stuff but I can see why people would be upset It's taking so long.
On July 19 2013 02:47 Eggi wrote: you know there was MLG not to long ago...
that was the "next big NA event"
t.t. happy i didnt buy any pizza. well i couldnt I live in canada :D
What does this even mean? You need to complete your thoughts, rather than rely on me to fill in the blanks.
I think he's saying that it was expected the " pizza party at a NA event " would happen at MLG but it didn't.( I don't know if it actually did or not, I didn't go.)
On July 18 2013 01:00 URLateral wrote: You guys need to also consider the fact that Liquids dota 2 team right now is boot camping and getting ready for Ti3 the biggest dota tournament of the year so i don't think Liquid wants to start this until after TI3 which will be august 14th i think
Thats ok, this has nothing to do with the Dota 2 team..
Yes, that is correct, but the same group of people who are dealing with TI3 are the people what would be setting up these videos. TL does not have unlimited staff.
They will get to making the funny youtube videos at some point, but its freaking busy for Esports teams right now.
It's going to be busy year round though, and EG obviously has enough staff to manage both their teams and marketing at the same time as they do all the time with the videos and such.
I'm not too terribly concerned about this tier stuff but I can see why people would be upset It's taking so long.
On July 19 2013 02:47 Eggi wrote: you know there was MLG not to long ago...
that was the "next big NA event"
t.t. happy i didnt buy any pizza. well i couldnt I live in canada :D
What does this even mean? You need to complete your thoughts, rather than rely on me to fill in the blanks.
I think he's saying that it was expected the " pizza party at a NA event " would happen at MLG but it didn't.( I don't know if it actually did or not, I didn't go.)
Well MLG was a big question mark up if SC2 was even going to be there, so that wasn't really a good place to plan a pizza party. I think they want to plan that out a bit more than 2 weeks before hand.
As for the issues with EG having enough staff, the next teir is the EG, TL, ROOT cross game match, which will likely include their dota 2 teams as well. Since IT3 is coming up a couple of weeks, that is going to put a damper on that.
Honestly, I'm more interested in knowing if the whole campaign made Papa John invest in these teams or not. I don't care about the AMA, the videos and the fluff.
On July 19 2013 02:56 Noocta wrote: Honestly, I'm more interested in knowing if the whole campaign made Papa John invest in these teams or not. I don't care about the AMA, the videos and the fluff.
Yeah I'm interested in that as well, I have to wonder what the teams even got out of this.
Would of been better if 1 dollar was split amongst the team.....mostly because the prizes are turning into a joke. What a year from now they going to suddenly pop up "hey guys remember that pizza thing a year ago? Well heres your prizes!" no one will care at that point.
Looks to be a shameless cash grab with no real management.
On July 19 2013 03:07 FromShouri wrote: Would of been better if 1 dollar was split amongst the team.....mostly because the prizes are turning into a joke. What a year from now they going to suddenly pop up "hey guys remember that pizza thing a year ago? Well heres your prizes!" no one will care at that point.
Looks to be a shameless cash grab with no real management.
Yes, but where is the surprise here? Papa John's and the teams got marketing attention out of this; you got cheaper pizza. That was never about anything else. Come on people; please don't be so naive.
On July 19 2013 03:07 FromShouri wrote: Would of been better if 1 dollar was split amongst the team.....mostly because the prizes are turning into a joke. What a year from now they going to suddenly pop up "hey guys remember that pizza thing a year ago? Well heres your prizes!" no one will care at that point.
Looks to be a shameless cash grab with no real management.
Yes, but where is the surprise here? Papa John's and the teams got marketing attention out of this; you got cheaper pizza. That was never about anything else. Come on people; please don't be so naive.
i think a genuine sentiment i had was whether or not the marketing attention was great enough to warrant further cooperation or sponsorship in the future between papa john's and US teams. it would certainly make sense to have an esports favourite pizza as nerds eat a lot of pizza.
On July 19 2013 02:56 Noocta wrote: Honestly, I'm more interested in knowing if the whole campaign made Papa John invest in these teams or not. I don't care about the AMA, the videos and the fluff.
Yeah I'm interested in that as well, I have to wonder what the teams even got out of this.
I am listening to Inside the Game right now and Incontrol confirmed that folks are still in talks with Papa Johns. He also said, and I qoute:
"Big Companies take forever to do anything."
A someone who works for very large companies, mostly international in nature, I will confirm this. We are talking 2-4 day turn around on a single email and 3-5 days to set up a phone call with someone worth talking to. Its a long haul.
On July 19 2013 02:56 Noocta wrote: Honestly, I'm more interested in knowing if the whole campaign made Papa John invest in these teams or not. I don't care about the AMA, the videos and the fluff.
Yeah I'm interested in that as well, I have to wonder what the teams even got out of this.
I am listening to Inside the Game right now and Incontrol confirmed that folks are still in talks with Papa Johns. He also said, and I qoute:
"Big Companies take forever to do anything."
A someone who works for very large companies, mostly international in nature, I will confirm this. We are talking 2-4 day turn around on a single email and 3-5 days to set up a phone call with someone worth talking to. Its a long haul.
This can depend. I work for a company that is extremely large and does things extremely quickly--but my last company (also large) took forever to do anything close to significant. In my current company we could knock this out in a week or two.
On July 19 2013 02:56 Noocta wrote: Honestly, I'm more interested in knowing if the whole campaign made Papa John invest in these teams or not. I don't care about the AMA, the videos and the fluff.
Yeah I'm interested in that as well, I have to wonder what the teams even got out of this.
I am listening to Inside the Game right now and Incontrol confirmed that folks are still in talks with Papa Johns. He also said, and I qoute:
"Big Companies take forever to do anything."
A someone who works for very large companies, mostly international in nature, I will confirm this. We are talking 2-4 day turn around on a single email and 3-5 days to set up a phone call with someone worth talking to. Its a long haul.
I respond almost immediately to e-mails and work for a Fortune 100 company. You take 48 hours to respond and you've already lost business to your competitor. Compeitition is absolutely cutthroat for most companies, despite what people think about price fixing and price gouging.
On July 19 2013 05:13 iNcontroL wrote: Hey guys I noticed we were adding up examples of large companies moving fast or slow so I wanted to win:
I know of over 1000 fortune 50 companies that take 2-16 years to reply to emails
So uh, I win.
Well I have examples of companies that respond to the email before I finish writting it. They have super future tech that lets them know about what people want before they want it.
Seriously folks, shit takes time. I don't get why people want to think that it doesn't because someone at their work responses to email quickly.
Atleast tell us what happening. Saying "other companies are slow" is like being the kid in class who got a F and laughs with his other friends who also got a low mark also. Dont be those companies, be the better company.
not disappear for a while and hope we forget. It was really cool a week or two after to see stuff coming.
Now if it does come its 100x less effective, bad marketing imo. Could capitalize on more pizza's 1-1.5 months after. 6-12 months after its like "oh i bought pizzas from these guys, cool I guess they came through with it, standard esports downtime."
You couldve had "hey guys here is the ______ tier achievement. Lets sit down watch some games and get some more pizzas!(have a certain % off coupon code again) That way PPJ can really cement themselves in the Esports market as being the Go2pizza for esports events etc.
do you always be known for "standard esports downtime?" lets get some legitimacy going and better marketing. Unless it was a good cheap cash grab for PPJ, flash marketing strategy for PPJ and we'll never hear of em again.
On July 19 2013 05:32 Eggi wrote: Atleast tell us what happening. Saying "other companies are slow" is like being the kid in class who got a F and laughs with his other friends who also got a low mark also. Dont be those companies, be the better company.
not disappear for a while and hope we forget. It was really cool a week or two after to see stuff coming.
Now if it does come its 100x less effective, bad marketing imo. Could capitalize on more pizza's 1-1.5 months after. 6-12 months after its like "oh i bought pizzas from these guys, cool I guess they came through with it, standard esports downtime."
You couldve had "hey guys here is the ______ tier achievement. Lets sit down watch some games and get some more pizzas!(have a certain % off coupon code again) That way PPJ can really cement themselves in the Esports market as being the Go2pizza for esports events etc.
do you always be known for "standard esports downtime?" lets get some legitimacy going and better marketing. Unless it was a good cheap cash grab for PPJ, flash marketing strategy for PPJ and we'll never hear of em again.
They did tell you want what happening. They are talking with people. The best way to kill a deal is to talk about it publicly, companies don't like that at all(people too, for that matter). Don't expect insider information on everything. You don't get to know the inner workings of sponsorship deals with people like Tiger Woods.
On July 19 2013 05:32 Eggi wrote: Atleast tell us what happening. Saying "other companies are slow" is like being the kid in class who got a F and laughs with his other friends who also got a low mark also. Dont be those companies, be the better company.
not disappear for a while and hope we forget. It was really cool a week or two after to see stuff coming.
Now if it does come its 100x less effective, bad marketing imo. Could capitalize on more pizza's 1-1.5 months after. 6-12 months after its like "oh i bought pizzas from these guys, cool I guess they came through with it, standard esports downtime."
You couldve had "hey guys here is the ______ tier achievement. Lets sit down watch some games and get some more pizzas!(have a certain % off coupon code again) That way PPJ can really cement themselves in the Esports market as being the Go2pizza for esports events etc.
do you always be known for "standard esports downtime?" lets get some legitimacy going and better marketing. Unless it was a good cheap cash grab for PPJ, flash marketing strategy for PPJ and we'll never hear of em again.
They did tell you want what happening. They are talking with people. The best way to kill a deal is to talk about it publicly, companies don't like that at all(people too, for that matter). Don't expect insider information on everything. You don't get to know the inner workings of sponsorship deals with people like Tiger Woods.
Why are we talking about sponsorship deals and inner workings of them? The original necro of the thread is asking when the tier rewards will be done, which has 0 to do with papa john's the company, since it's only b/w tl and eg.
On July 19 2013 05:32 Eggi wrote: Atleast tell us what happening. Saying "other companies are slow" is like being the kid in class who got a F and laughs with his other friends who also got a low mark also. Dont be those companies, be the better company.
not disappear for a while and hope we forget. It was really cool a week or two after to see stuff coming.
Now if it does come its 100x less effective, bad marketing imo. Could capitalize on more pizza's 1-1.5 months after. 6-12 months after its like "oh i bought pizzas from these guys, cool I guess they came through with it, standard esports downtime."
You couldve had "hey guys here is the ______ tier achievement. Lets sit down watch some games and get some more pizzas!(have a certain % off coupon code again) That way PPJ can really cement themselves in the Esports market as being the Go2pizza for esports events etc.
do you always be known for "standard esports downtime?" lets get some legitimacy going and better marketing. Unless it was a good cheap cash grab for PPJ, flash marketing strategy for PPJ and we'll never hear of em again.
They did tell you want what happening. They are talking with people. The best way to kill a deal is to talk about it publicly, companies don't like that at all(people too, for that matter). Don't expect insider information on everything. You don't get to know the inner workings of sponsorship deals with people like Tiger Woods.
Why are we talking about sponsorship deals and inner workings of them? The original necro of the thread is asking when the tier rewards will be done, which has 0 to do with papa john's the company, since it's only b/w tl and eg.
If you go back one page, you will see that has been addressed and people have moved on to new topics.
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