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nevermind forget it dont even know why this was bumped
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I appreciated the Plato reference, though it is odd. I do find the lack of follow up from Papa Johns a bit disheartening, but I sort of expected it.
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On August 31 2013 13:08 BronzeKnee wrote:
But instead, you'll tell me how to feel, and not to whine about half off pizza and a bunch of youtube videos, because you believe you can decide for me what I should think is important or not. Big surprise. No elitism there huh?
Nice. Because God forbid I actually use what I've learned in life, and apply it huh? Especially when what I've learned disagrees with your opinion?
Right is right and wrong is wrong, no matter who says or does it, no matter how big or small. And I call it how I see it. So yes, I do think this is worth outrage, but you can feel free to disagree.
I do disagree. I think it's a waste of time. EG, TL and Root have provided me with great entertainment since and I don't feel there is any reason to complain. Sure, they have not brought me exactly what was promised, but I don't mind. I feel no need to jump on the moral high groung and I think it's silly to be outraged about it. And just like you can voice your opinion, I can voice mine.
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On August 31 2013 13:22 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 13:08 BronzeKnee wrote:
But instead, you'll tell me how to feel, and not to whine about half off pizza and a bunch of youtube videos, because you believe you can decide for me what I should think is important or not. Big surprise. No elitism there huh?
Nice. Because God forbid I actually use what I've learned in life, and apply it huh? Especially when what I've learned disagrees with your opinion?
Right is right and wrong is wrong, no matter who says or does it, no matter how big or small. And I call it how I see it. So yes, I do think this is worth outrage, but you can feel free to disagree.
I do disagree. I think it's a waste of time. EG, TL and Root have provided me with great entertainment since and I don't feel there is any reason to complain. Sure, they have not brought me exactly what was promised, but I don't mind. I feel no need to jump on the moral high groung and I think it's silly to be outraged about it. And just like you can voice your opinion, I can voice mine.
And I'm happy you voiced your opinion.
Sure, they have not brought me exactly what was promised, but I don't mind.
I once wrote a response to one of your messages about how I'd hate going to buy a used car with you because your such an apologist, willing to let everyone walk all over you and apologize for their poor behavior. But then I deleted it.
At least you admit it now, so I can confirm my belief.
But the issue (for you at least) becomes what is stopping TL or EG in the future from failing to follow through on something else important to some people, say something you think is important?
Certainly not your opinions now. In fact, you're giving them a free pass for the future.
You should read Plato's Republic, and I'll recommend the Tao Te Ching to you too. You might learn a thing or two.
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I agree with Bronzeknee, even though I don't really care about this.
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On August 31 2013 13:25 BronzeKnee wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 13:22 Plansix wrote:On August 31 2013 13:08 BronzeKnee wrote:
But instead, you'll tell me how to feel, and not to whine about half off pizza and a bunch of youtube videos, because you believe you can decide for me what I should think is important or not. Big surprise. No elitism there huh?
Nice. Because God forbid I actually use what I've learned in life, and apply it huh? Especially when what I've learned disagrees with your opinion?
Right is right and wrong is wrong, no matter who says or does it, no matter how big or small. And I call it how I see it. So yes, I do think this is worth outrage, but you can feel free to disagree.
I do disagree. I think it's a waste of time. EG, TL and Root have provided me with great entertainment since and I don't feel there is any reason to complain. Sure, they have not brought me exactly what was promised, but I don't mind. I feel no need to jump on the moral high groung and I think it's silly to be outraged about it. And just like you can voice your opinion, I can voice mine. And I'm happy you voiced your opinion. Show nested quote +Sure, they have not brought me exactly what was promised, but I don't mind. I feel no need to jump on the moral high groung and I think it's silly to be outraged about it. I once wrote a response to one of your messages about how I'd hate going to buy a used car with you because your such an apologist, willing to let everyone walk all over you and apologize for their poor behavior. But then I deleted it. At least you admit it now, so I can confirm my belief. But the issue (for you at least) becomes what is stopping TL or EG in the future from failing to follow through on something else important to some people, say something you think is important? Certainly not your opinions now. In fact, you're giving them a free pass for the future.
Nothing. But I have faith they won't. I don't worry myself about you tube videos I won't get. It to minor to be bothered with or get upset about. There are plent of good things to watch and enjoy, so they can release the YouTube videos later. And if people want to get about it, they can. And I will continue to point out all those teams have provided quality entertainment since.
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On August 31 2013 13:33 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 13:25 BronzeKnee wrote:On August 31 2013 13:22 Plansix wrote:On August 31 2013 13:08 BronzeKnee wrote:
But instead, you'll tell me how to feel, and not to whine about half off pizza and a bunch of youtube videos, because you believe you can decide for me what I should think is important or not. Big surprise. No elitism there huh?
Nice. Because God forbid I actually use what I've learned in life, and apply it huh? Especially when what I've learned disagrees with your opinion?
Right is right and wrong is wrong, no matter who says or does it, no matter how big or small. And I call it how I see it. So yes, I do think this is worth outrage, but you can feel free to disagree.
I do disagree. I think it's a waste of time. EG, TL and Root have provided me with great entertainment since and I don't feel there is any reason to complain. Sure, they have not brought me exactly what was promised, but I don't mind. I feel no need to jump on the moral high groung and I think it's silly to be outraged about it. And just like you can voice your opinion, I can voice mine. And I'm happy you voiced your opinion. Sure, they have not brought me exactly what was promised, but I don't mind. I feel no need to jump on the moral high groung and I think it's silly to be outraged about it. I once wrote a response to one of your messages about how I'd hate going to buy a used car with you because your such an apologist, willing to let everyone walk all over you and apologize for their poor behavior. But then I deleted it. At least you admit it now, so I can confirm my belief. But the issue (for you at least) becomes what is stopping TL or EG in the future from failing to follow through on something else important to some people, say something you think is important? Certainly not your opinions now. In fact, you're giving them a free pass for the future. But I have faith they won't.
Based on their history with the E-Sports Tiers, you would say "well they didn't follow through on that thing important to those guys, but I'm sure they will follow through on what is important to me"?
Well, as Donald Rumsfeld said, "freedom's untidy, and free people are free to make mistakes and commit crimes and do bad things."
As you wish. I'll never buy a used car with you, or place a bet based on your advice...
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On August 31 2013 13:36 BronzeKnee wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 13:33 Plansix wrote:On August 31 2013 13:25 BronzeKnee wrote:On August 31 2013 13:22 Plansix wrote:On August 31 2013 13:08 BronzeKnee wrote:
But instead, you'll tell me how to feel, and not to whine about half off pizza and a bunch of youtube videos, because you believe you can decide for me what I should think is important or not. Big surprise. No elitism there huh?
Nice. Because God forbid I actually use what I've learned in life, and apply it huh? Especially when what I've learned disagrees with your opinion?
Right is right and wrong is wrong, no matter who says or does it, no matter how big or small. And I call it how I see it. So yes, I do think this is worth outrage, but you can feel free to disagree.
I do disagree. I think it's a waste of time. EG, TL and Root have provided me with great entertainment since and I don't feel there is any reason to complain. Sure, they have not brought me exactly what was promised, but I don't mind. I feel no need to jump on the moral high groung and I think it's silly to be outraged about it. And just like you can voice your opinion, I can voice mine. And I'm happy you voiced your opinion. Sure, they have not brought me exactly what was promised, but I don't mind. I feel no need to jump on the moral high groung and I think it's silly to be outraged about it. I once wrote a response to one of your messages about how I'd hate going to buy a used car with you because your such an apologist, willing to let everyone walk all over you and apologize for their poor behavior. But then I deleted it. At least you admit it now, so I can confirm my belief. But the issue (for you at least) becomes what is stopping TL or EG in the future from failing to follow through on something else important to some people, say something you think is important? Certainly not your opinions now. In fact, you're giving them a free pass for the future. But I have faith they won't. Based on their history with the E-Sports Tiers? Well, as Donald Rumsfeld said, "freedom's untidy, and free people are free to make mistakes and commit crimes and do bad things." As you wish. I'll never buy a used car with you, or place a bet based on your advice...
You can believe that. I said I trusted TL, EG and Root, not the world at large. They are not used car sales men. You keep trying to make this about more than it is. It is minor and has no negative impact on my life. If it did, I might be a little less trusting. But that is not the case.
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I gotta agree with BronzeKnee. If TL/EG/Root promised that they'll release those videos or do whatever for those tiers then they should follow through. Giving them a pass and eventually sweeping it under the rug is not the way to go because it means that in the future, they can do such things again. I personally could care less since I didn't buy any pizza and don't care much for what they promised lol but I'm sure some people bought pizza just to try and help the community reach the different tiers.
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On August 31 2013 13:41 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 13:36 BronzeKnee wrote:On August 31 2013 13:33 Plansix wrote:On August 31 2013 13:25 BronzeKnee wrote:On August 31 2013 13:22 Plansix wrote:On August 31 2013 13:08 BronzeKnee wrote:
But instead, you'll tell me how to feel, and not to whine about half off pizza and a bunch of youtube videos, because you believe you can decide for me what I should think is important or not. Big surprise. No elitism there huh?
Nice. Because God forbid I actually use what I've learned in life, and apply it huh? Especially when what I've learned disagrees with your opinion?
Right is right and wrong is wrong, no matter who says or does it, no matter how big or small. And I call it how I see it. So yes, I do think this is worth outrage, but you can feel free to disagree.
I do disagree. I think it's a waste of time. EG, TL and Root have provided me with great entertainment since and I don't feel there is any reason to complain. Sure, they have not brought me exactly what was promised, but I don't mind. I feel no need to jump on the moral high groung and I think it's silly to be outraged about it. And just like you can voice your opinion, I can voice mine. And I'm happy you voiced your opinion. Sure, they have not brought me exactly what was promised, but I don't mind. I feel no need to jump on the moral high groung and I think it's silly to be outraged about it. I once wrote a response to one of your messages about how I'd hate going to buy a used car with you because your such an apologist, willing to let everyone walk all over you and apologize for their poor behavior. But then I deleted it. At least you admit it now, so I can confirm my belief. But the issue (for you at least) becomes what is stopping TL or EG in the future from failing to follow through on something else important to some people, say something you think is important? Certainly not your opinions now. In fact, you're giving them a free pass for the future. But I have faith they won't. Based on their history with the E-Sports Tiers? Well, as Donald Rumsfeld said, "freedom's untidy, and free people are free to make mistakes and commit crimes and do bad things." As you wish. I'll never buy a used car with you, or place a bet based on your advice... You can believe that. I said I trusted TL, EG and Root, not the world at large. They are not used car sales men. You keep trying to make this about more than it is. It is minor and has no negative impact on my life. If it did, I might be a little less trusting. But that is not the case.
So again, you would say "well they didn't follow through on that thing important to those guys, but I'm sure they will follow through on what is important to me" because you have faith they will?
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
BronzeKnee sure likes to name drop
I mean I agree they need to hold up their end of the bargain but sheesh man
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On August 31 2013 13:43 lichter wrote:
BronzeKnee sure likes to name drop
I mean I agree they need to hold up their end of the bargain but sheesh man
Hey, just taking it all the way to teach someone. I gotta lead the horses to water man... whether or not they drink isn't up to me. But I have to do all I can, for me.
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Before asking us to support you again, be sure to make good on your promises for the first time
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On August 31 2013 13:42 BronzeKnee wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 13:41 Plansix wrote:On August 31 2013 13:36 BronzeKnee wrote:On August 31 2013 13:33 Plansix wrote:On August 31 2013 13:25 BronzeKnee wrote:On August 31 2013 13:22 Plansix wrote:On August 31 2013 13:08 BronzeKnee wrote:
But instead, you'll tell me how to feel, and not to whine about half off pizza and a bunch of youtube videos, because you believe you can decide for me what I should think is important or not. Big surprise. No elitism there huh?
Nice. Because God forbid I actually use what I've learned in life, and apply it huh? Especially when what I've learned disagrees with your opinion?
Right is right and wrong is wrong, no matter who says or does it, no matter how big or small. And I call it how I see it. So yes, I do think this is worth outrage, but you can feel free to disagree.
I do disagree. I think it's a waste of time. EG, TL and Root have provided me with great entertainment since and I don't feel there is any reason to complain. Sure, they have not brought me exactly what was promised, but I don't mind. I feel no need to jump on the moral high groung and I think it's silly to be outraged about it. And just like you can voice your opinion, I can voice mine. And I'm happy you voiced your opinion. Sure, they have not brought me exactly what was promised, but I don't mind. I feel no need to jump on the moral high groung and I think it's silly to be outraged about it. I once wrote a response to one of your messages about how I'd hate going to buy a used car with you because your such an apologist, willing to let everyone walk all over you and apologize for their poor behavior. But then I deleted it. At least you admit it now, so I can confirm my belief. But the issue (for you at least) becomes what is stopping TL or EG in the future from failing to follow through on something else important to some people, say something you think is important? Certainly not your opinions now. In fact, you're giving them a free pass for the future. But I have faith they won't. Based on their history with the E-Sports Tiers? Well, as Donald Rumsfeld said, "freedom's untidy, and free people are free to make mistakes and commit crimes and do bad things." As you wish. I'll never buy a used car with you, or place a bet based on your advice... You can believe that. I said I trusted TL, EG and Root, not the world at large. They are not used car sales men. You keep trying to make this about more than it is. It is minor and has no negative impact on my life. If it did, I might be a little less trusting. But that is not the case. So again, you would say "well they didn't follow through on that thing important to those guys, but I'm sure they will follow through on what is important to me" because you have faith they won't?
Nope. I think they will follow through later and I don't give a shit of they never do. I am unhurt by the lack of the YouTube videos and I believe that all three teams wouldn't do something that would have a negative impact on me. I am not upset for the sake of being upset.
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On August 31 2013 13:47 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 13:42 BronzeKnee wrote:On August 31 2013 13:41 Plansix wrote:On August 31 2013 13:36 BronzeKnee wrote:On August 31 2013 13:33 Plansix wrote:On August 31 2013 13:25 BronzeKnee wrote:On August 31 2013 13:22 Plansix wrote:On August 31 2013 13:08 BronzeKnee wrote:
But instead, you'll tell me how to feel, and not to whine about half off pizza and a bunch of youtube videos, because you believe you can decide for me what I should think is important or not. Big surprise. No elitism there huh?
Nice. Because God forbid I actually use what I've learned in life, and apply it huh? Especially when what I've learned disagrees with your opinion?
Right is right and wrong is wrong, no matter who says or does it, no matter how big or small. And I call it how I see it. So yes, I do think this is worth outrage, but you can feel free to disagree.
I do disagree. I think it's a waste of time. EG, TL and Root have provided me with great entertainment since and I don't feel there is any reason to complain. Sure, they have not brought me exactly what was promised, but I don't mind. I feel no need to jump on the moral high groung and I think it's silly to be outraged about it. And just like you can voice your opinion, I can voice mine. And I'm happy you voiced your opinion. Sure, they have not brought me exactly what was promised, but I don't mind. I feel no need to jump on the moral high groung and I think it's silly to be outraged about it. I once wrote a response to one of your messages about how I'd hate going to buy a used car with you because your such an apologist, willing to let everyone walk all over you and apologize for their poor behavior. But then I deleted it. At least you admit it now, so I can confirm my belief. But the issue (for you at least) becomes what is stopping TL or EG in the future from failing to follow through on something else important to some people, say something you think is important? Certainly not your opinions now. In fact, you're giving them a free pass for the future. But I have faith they won't. Based on their history with the E-Sports Tiers? Well, as Donald Rumsfeld said, "freedom's untidy, and free people are free to make mistakes and commit crimes and do bad things." As you wish. I'll never buy a used car with you, or place a bet based on your advice... You can believe that. I said I trusted TL, EG and Root, not the world at large. They are not used car sales men. You keep trying to make this about more than it is. It is minor and has no negative impact on my life. If it did, I might be a little less trusting. But that is not the case. So again, you would say "well they didn't follow through on that thing important to those guys, but I'm sure they will follow through on what is important to me" because you have faith they won't? Nope. I think they will follow through later and I don't give a shit of they never do. I am unhurt by the lack of the YouTube videos and I believe that all three teams wouldn't do something that would have a negative impact on me. I am not upset for the sake of being upset.
I think his point is that if they promised something, they should go through with it regardless. It builds trust between the community and the team which is really important considering how much of a niche market esports is(SCII pretty small imo).
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I'm not digging through 46 pages of forum posts to see what's going on. All I'm going to say is I ordered 3 large pizzas to support these events, and haven't seen jack shit from EG or Root. I am pissed about this.
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On August 31 2013 14:34 BrieFanFiction wrote:
I'm not digging through 46 pages of forum posts to see what's going on. All I'm going to say is I ordered 3 large pizzas to support these events, and haven't seen jack shit from EG or Root. I am pissed about this.
hey at least you got 3 discounted pizzas.
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EG does not do what they promise eventho we wasted money helping what they promoted the shit out of ? "SUPPLIES"
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On August 31 2013 14:34 BrieFanFiction wrote:
I'm not digging through 46 pages of forum posts to see what's going on. All I'm going to say is I ordered 3 large pizzas to support these events, and haven't seen jack shit from EG or Root. I am pissed about this.
You atleast had a healthy nutritious meal ! 3x over.
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To be fair, the "discounted pizzas" aren't much of a discount, it's along the lines of their regular deals and promotions. They run $9.99 deals all the time, oftentimes related to sports events, and back during the pizzagg promotion you could order a large online for $9.99 every Monday to Wednesday as part of their midweek pricing.
Even now I have a Papa John's circular in the mail saying I can order a large 3-topping for $7.99 any time through September 15th. So people who keep insisting the pizzagg promo was some sort of fantastic deal are grossly exaggerating.
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