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Surili
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1141 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-06 02:24:10
August 06 2013 02:23 GMT
#1001
On August 06 2013 10:22 ZataN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 09:47 revel8 wrote:
On August 06 2013 09:39 ZataN wrote:
On August 06 2013 09:24 GolemMadness wrote:
On August 06 2013 09:23 ZataN wrote:
I find it quite funny how everybody accepts Stephanos decision to go study, says it is a good move etc. I don't understand it, if I was that good at a computer game, widely known with tonnes of fans and earning decent money I would never throw it away to be a doctor.

Don't think I will ever understand that.


Because he's planning his future? You think he can be a professional Starcraft player forever?

Well too many replies to respond to... You definetly cannot be a startcraft player forever, however there are other options in the esports industry.

I do agree that planning for your future is a good thing, however it is not 100% important to have a degree to succeed, there are alot of jobs that you don't require a degree for. I personally think society puts too much importance on university education.

And it is obvious money is of upmost importance to Stephano, and it is my personal opinion that having money as the most important thing in your life is bad.

But obviously Stephano and myself are different people; if he really wasn't enjoying himself playing SC2 and is really going to enjoy being a doctor (lol something I can't really imagine, massive amounts of study so you can get a job with horrendously long hours and massive stress all so you can earn an amount of money that far surpasses the amount of money you need to live comfortably) then good on him.


Have you considered the possibility that being a Doctor is about helping sick people rather than about earning money? People can get job satisfaction by actually making a real difference in people's lives and Doctor's certainly make a difference.

Possible, unlikely in this case.

Sorry, i don't usually join conversations soon angrily, but who are you to say "unlikely in this case." Like you really know anything about what motivations stephano, or his vision for his future. How dare you speak that way about someone, that helping sick people is not something he might want to do.
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Vertigro
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom261 Posts
August 06 2013 02:29 GMT
#1002
On August 06 2013 11:23 Surili wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 10:22 ZataN wrote:
On August 06 2013 09:47 revel8 wrote:
On August 06 2013 09:39 ZataN wrote:
On August 06 2013 09:24 GolemMadness wrote:
On August 06 2013 09:23 ZataN wrote:
I find it quite funny how everybody accepts Stephanos decision to go study, says it is a good move etc. I don't understand it, if I was that good at a computer game, widely known with tonnes of fans and earning decent money I would never throw it away to be a doctor.

Don't think I will ever understand that.


Because he's planning his future? You think he can be a professional Starcraft player forever?

Well too many replies to respond to... You definetly cannot be a startcraft player forever, however there are other options in the esports industry.

I do agree that planning for your future is a good thing, however it is not 100% important to have a degree to succeed, there are alot of jobs that you don't require a degree for. I personally think society puts too much importance on university education.

And it is obvious money is of upmost importance to Stephano, and it is my personal opinion that having money as the most important thing in your life is bad.

But obviously Stephano and myself are different people; if he really wasn't enjoying himself playing SC2 and is really going to enjoy being a doctor (lol something I can't really imagine, massive amounts of study so you can get a job with horrendously long hours and massive stress all so you can earn an amount of money that far surpasses the amount of money you need to live comfortably) then good on him.


Have you considered the possibility that being a Doctor is about helping sick people rather than about earning money? People can get job satisfaction by actually making a real difference in people's lives and Doctor's certainly make a difference.

Possible, unlikely in this case.

Sorry, i don't usually join conversations soon angrily, but who are you to say "unlikely in this case." Like you really know anything about what motivations stephano, or his vision for his future. How dare you speak that way about someone, that helping sick people is not something he might want to do.


With the departure of Stephano, the hate train that follows him has to have its own final goodbyes i guess
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Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
August 06 2013 02:30 GMT
#1003
Stephano has said months ago that he doesn't want to go to medical school anymore, so whaytever discussion you guys are having is kinda moot.
Refer to my post.
Packawana
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1081 Posts
August 06 2013 02:33 GMT
#1004
Pro gaming is about 15 years old now, and as it shows, very few progamers can make a long-term living out of it. I applaud Mr. Sartouri here -- he is being realistic.
"May all your dreaming fill the empty sky."
tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
August 06 2013 02:34 GMT
#1005
Well played young french man
ZataN
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand414 Posts
August 06 2013 02:42 GMT
#1006
On August 06 2013 11:23 Surili wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 10:22 ZataN wrote:
On August 06 2013 09:47 revel8 wrote:
On August 06 2013 09:39 ZataN wrote:
On August 06 2013 09:24 GolemMadness wrote:
On August 06 2013 09:23 ZataN wrote:
I find it quite funny how everybody accepts Stephanos decision to go study, says it is a good move etc. I don't understand it, if I was that good at a computer game, widely known with tonnes of fans and earning decent money I would never throw it away to be a doctor.

Don't think I will ever understand that.


Because he's planning his future? You think he can be a professional Starcraft player forever?

Well too many replies to respond to... You definetly cannot be a startcraft player forever, however there are other options in the esports industry.

I do agree that planning for your future is a good thing, however it is not 100% important to have a degree to succeed, there are alot of jobs that you don't require a degree for. I personally think society puts too much importance on university education.

And it is obvious money is of upmost importance to Stephano, and it is my personal opinion that having money as the most important thing in your life is bad.

But obviously Stephano and myself are different people; if he really wasn't enjoying himself playing SC2 and is really going to enjoy being a doctor (lol something I can't really imagine, massive amounts of study so you can get a job with horrendously long hours and massive stress all so you can earn an amount of money that far surpasses the amount of money you need to live comfortably) then good on him.


Have you considered the possibility that being a Doctor is about helping sick people rather than about earning money? People can get job satisfaction by actually making a real difference in people's lives and Doctor's certainly make a difference.

Possible, unlikely in this case.

Sorry, i don't usually join conversations soon angrily, but who are you to say "unlikely in this case." Like you really know anything about what motivations stephano, or his vision for his future. How dare you speak that way about someone, that helping sick people is not something he might want to do.


Love how defensive people get. Almost like im insulting them personally. Dude was clearly driven by money, if you couldn't see that you are .... bad at reading people?
CJ BABY | FAKER > PAWN BELIEVE IT
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-06 02:46:47
August 06 2013 02:45 GMT
#1007
On August 06 2013 09:10 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 09:07 StarStruck wrote:
On August 06 2013 08:59 Havik_ wrote:
So I assume this WCS will be his last tournament. I hope he wins and reconsiders. A guy can hope


I think he's made enough money and is ready to move on. No reason for him to delay it anymore plus he can always come back whenever he wants.


If you take six months off, coming back is pretty hard.


Stephano is a special case. The game is always going to be shifting regardless with the patches and LotV. Stephano is a smart player even if he doesn't like to guidance.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
August 06 2013 02:46 GMT
#1008
On August 06 2013 11:42 ZataN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 11:23 Surili wrote:
On August 06 2013 10:22 ZataN wrote:
On August 06 2013 09:47 revel8 wrote:
On August 06 2013 09:39 ZataN wrote:
On August 06 2013 09:24 GolemMadness wrote:
On August 06 2013 09:23 ZataN wrote:
I find it quite funny how everybody accepts Stephanos decision to go study, says it is a good move etc. I don't understand it, if I was that good at a computer game, widely known with tonnes of fans and earning decent money I would never throw it away to be a doctor.

Don't think I will ever understand that.


Because he's planning his future? You think he can be a professional Starcraft player forever?

Well too many replies to respond to... You definetly cannot be a startcraft player forever, however there are other options in the esports industry.

I do agree that planning for your future is a good thing, however it is not 100% important to have a degree to succeed, there are alot of jobs that you don't require a degree for. I personally think society puts too much importance on university education.

And it is obvious money is of upmost importance to Stephano, and it is my personal opinion that having money as the most important thing in your life is bad.

But obviously Stephano and myself are different people; if he really wasn't enjoying himself playing SC2 and is really going to enjoy being a doctor (lol something I can't really imagine, massive amounts of study so you can get a job with horrendously long hours and massive stress all so you can earn an amount of money that far surpasses the amount of money you need to live comfortably) then good on him.


Have you considered the possibility that being a Doctor is about helping sick people rather than about earning money? People can get job satisfaction by actually making a real difference in people's lives and Doctor's certainly make a difference.

Possible, unlikely in this case.

Sorry, i don't usually join conversations soon angrily, but who are you to say "unlikely in this case." Like you really know anything about what motivations stephano, or his vision for his future. How dare you speak that way about someone, that helping sick people is not something he might want to do.


Love how defensive people get. Almost like im insulting them personally. Dude was clearly driven by money, if you couldn't see that you are .... bad at reading people?



Stephano played SC2 for the money -> Therefore, the reason Stephano wants to become a doctor is the money.

I think you need a couple more steps in between those 2 statements bro. Try again .
ZataN
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand414 Posts
August 06 2013 02:50 GMT
#1009
On August 06 2013 11:46 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 11:42 ZataN wrote:
On August 06 2013 11:23 Surili wrote:
On August 06 2013 10:22 ZataN wrote:
On August 06 2013 09:47 revel8 wrote:
On August 06 2013 09:39 ZataN wrote:
On August 06 2013 09:24 GolemMadness wrote:
On August 06 2013 09:23 ZataN wrote:
I find it quite funny how everybody accepts Stephanos decision to go study, says it is a good move etc. I don't understand it, if I was that good at a computer game, widely known with tonnes of fans and earning decent money I would never throw it away to be a doctor.

Don't think I will ever understand that.


Because he's planning his future? You think he can be a professional Starcraft player forever?

Well too many replies to respond to... You definetly cannot be a startcraft player forever, however there are other options in the esports industry.

I do agree that planning for your future is a good thing, however it is not 100% important to have a degree to succeed, there are alot of jobs that you don't require a degree for. I personally think society puts too much importance on university education.

And it is obvious money is of upmost importance to Stephano, and it is my personal opinion that having money as the most important thing in your life is bad.

But obviously Stephano and myself are different people; if he really wasn't enjoying himself playing SC2 and is really going to enjoy being a doctor (lol something I can't really imagine, massive amounts of study so you can get a job with horrendously long hours and massive stress all so you can earn an amount of money that far surpasses the amount of money you need to live comfortably) then good on him.


Have you considered the possibility that being a Doctor is about helping sick people rather than about earning money? People can get job satisfaction by actually making a real difference in people's lives and Doctor's certainly make a difference.

Possible, unlikely in this case.

Sorry, i don't usually join conversations soon angrily, but who are you to say "unlikely in this case." Like you really know anything about what motivations stephano, or his vision for his future. How dare you speak that way about someone, that helping sick people is not something he might want to do.


Love how defensive people get. Almost like im insulting them personally. Dude was clearly driven by money, if you couldn't see that you are .... bad at reading people?



Stephano played SC2 for the money -> Therefore, the reason Stephano wants to become a doctor is the money.

I think you need a couple more steps in between those 2 statements bro. Try again .

Hes not even becoming a doctor according to some post above.

ggnore
CJ BABY | FAKER > PAWN BELIEVE IT
Let it Raine
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1245 Posts
August 06 2013 02:57 GMT
#1010
none of you were intelligent enough to understand how to be as good as stephano in sc2

don't expect to be able to understand outside decisions either
Grandmaster Zerg x14. Diamond 1 LoL. MLG 50, Halo 3. Raine.
AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
August 06 2013 02:58 GMT
#1011
On August 06 2013 11:57 Let it Raine wrote:
none of you were intelligent enough to understand how to be as good as stephano in sc2

don't expect to be able to understand outside decisions either


lol why don't you explain in detail how he came to be soooo good at sc2 then ?
Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
August 06 2013 02:59 GMT
#1012
On August 06 2013 11:14 Iron_ wrote:
I certainly think he was good for the game, but his big money and big wins came when zerg was IMBA as all get out. The winnings will not carry him anymore, so good call on the timing.


this is the truth. even stephano admitted that zerg had a big advantage in every matchup and that he did not even care who his opponent was because he did the same thing every game.
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ZataN
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand414 Posts
August 06 2013 03:05 GMT
#1013
On August 06 2013 11:59 Terranist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 11:14 Iron_ wrote:
I certainly think he was good for the game, but his big money and big wins came when zerg was IMBA as all get out. The winnings will not carry him anymore, so good call on the timing.


this is the truth. even stephano admitted that zerg had a big advantage in every matchup and that he did not even care who his opponent was because he did the same thing every game.

Stephano confirmed for exploiting imba then quitting when its balanced.
CJ BABY | FAKER > PAWN BELIEVE IT
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
August 06 2013 03:08 GMT
#1014
On August 06 2013 12:05 ZataN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 11:59 Terranist wrote:
On August 06 2013 11:14 Iron_ wrote:
I certainly think he was good for the game, but his big money and big wins came when zerg was IMBA as all get out. The winnings will not carry him anymore, so good call on the timing.


this is the truth. even stephano admitted that zerg had a big advantage in every matchup and that he did not even care who his opponent was because he did the same thing every game.

Stephano confirmed for exploiting imba then quitting when its balanced.

... quitting with shitloads of money in the bag. an evil genius indeed.

farewell stephano, you were something special and will be missed.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-06 03:09:39
August 06 2013 03:09 GMT
#1015
this guy became successful when sc2 was on the rise and at its peak and leaves when its on the decline. smart/lucky man
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
xxxxxxb
Profile Joined October 2009
155 Posts
August 06 2013 04:43 GMT
#1016
What happens if he grabs a season final seed at wcs? postponed retirement? seed is given to another player? lame 3 man group at finals?
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
August 06 2013 04:46 GMT
#1017
On August 06 2013 12:09 andaylin wrote:
this guy became successful when sc2 was on the rise and at its peak and leaves when its on the decline. smart/lucky man




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Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
August 06 2013 04:49 GMT
#1018
On August 06 2013 13:43 xxxxxxb wrote:
What happens if he grabs a season final seed at wcs? postponed retirement? seed is given to another player? lame 3 man group at finals?


If he goes to Season 2 Finals, that'd be all of a week after his "retirement", so he'd probably just go, pick up the 5k + comp and do whatever he wants. It's pretty much free money that he'd have earned anyway.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
August 06 2013 05:02 GMT
#1019
On August 06 2013 09:55 feanor1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 09:24 GolemMadness wrote:
On August 06 2013 09:23 ZataN wrote:
I find it quite funny how everybody accepts Stephanos decision to go study, says it is a good move etc. I don't understand it, if I was that good at a computer game, widely known with tonnes of fans and earning decent money I would never throw it away to be a doctor.

Don't think I will ever understand that.


Because he's planning his future? You think he can be a professional Starcraft player forever?

Dude making 100k+ a year at age 20 is pretty much priceless from a financial perspective. Its not like he couldn't enter school at age 24 or 25 if he wanted to. However deciding to pursue an education is always a good decision, and if you don't enjoy playing much then the money may not be worth it.


You think he can continue to make $100k a year for five more years? This isn't 2012 where he can place top 3 in over 10 tournaments. His career is clearly on the downswing, and it's the logical time to pursue a new career.
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F.O.A.D.
Profile Joined July 2013
Canada100 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-06 05:29:27
August 06 2013 05:28 GMT
#1020
On August 06 2013 12:05 ZataN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 11:59 Terranist wrote:
On August 06 2013 11:14 Iron_ wrote:
I certainly think he was good for the game, but his big money and big wins came when zerg was IMBA as all get out. The winnings will not carry him anymore, so good call on the timing.


this is the truth. even stephano admitted that zerg had a big advantage in every matchup and that he did not even care who his opponent was because he did the same thing every game.

Stephano confirmed for exploiting imba then quitting when its balanced.

lol'd

Z was never OP in WoL, but you T/P-players can keep telling yourselves that if it helps you sleep at night. Also, HotS is not balanced atm; i.e., Z are UP, Widow Mines and Photon Overcharge need further examining etc.

Anyway, gl in future endeavors Stephano.

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