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On August 06 2013 14:28 F.O.A.D. wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2013 12:05 ZataN wrote:On August 06 2013 11:59 Terranist wrote:On August 06 2013 11:14 Iron_ wrote:
I certainly think he was good for the game, but his big money and big wins came when zerg was IMBA as all get out. The winnings will not carry him anymore, so good call on the timing. this is the truth. even stephano admitted that zerg had a big advantage in every matchup and that he did not even care who his opponent was because he did the same thing every game. Stephano confirmed for exploiting imba then quitting when its balanced. lol'd Z was never OP in WoL, but you T/P-players can keep telling yourselves that if it helps you sleep at night. Also, HotS is not balanced atm; e.g., Z are UP, Widow Mines and Photon Overcharge need further examining etc. Anyway, gl in future endeavors Stephano.
Yeah, that's why all the last finals were ZvZ and even the zerg players themselves admitted there were balance issues with zerg.
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On August 06 2013 14:29 GolemMadness wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2013 14:28 F.O.A.D. wrote:On August 06 2013 12:05 ZataN wrote:On August 06 2013 11:59 Terranist wrote:On August 06 2013 11:14 Iron_ wrote:
I certainly think he was good for the game, but his big money and big wins came when zerg was IMBA as all get out. The winnings will not carry him anymore, so good call on the timing. this is the truth. even stephano admitted that zerg had a big advantage in every matchup and that he did not even care who his opponent was because he did the same thing every game. Stephano confirmed for exploiting imba then quitting when its balanced. lol'd Z was never OP in WoL, but you T/P-players can keep telling yourselves that if it helps you sleep at night. Also, HotS is not balanced atm; e.g., Z are UP, Widow Mines and Photon Overcharge need further examining etc. Anyway, gl in future endeavors Stephano. Yeah, that's why all the last finals were ZvZ and even the zerg players themselves admitted there were balance issues with zerg.
Because when Fruitdealer reached the Final and won, Z were OP...rofl, get a grip.
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On August 06 2013 14:36 F.O.A.D. wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2013 14:29 GolemMadness wrote:On August 06 2013 14:28 F.O.A.D. wrote:On August 06 2013 12:05 ZataN wrote:On August 06 2013 11:59 Terranist wrote:On August 06 2013 11:14 Iron_ wrote:
I certainly think he was good for the game, but his big money and big wins came when zerg was IMBA as all get out. The winnings will not carry him anymore, so good call on the timing. this is the truth. even stephano admitted that zerg had a big advantage in every matchup and that he did not even care who his opponent was because he did the same thing every game. Stephano confirmed for exploiting imba then quitting when its balanced. lol'd Z was never OP in WoL, but you T/P-players can keep telling yourselves that if it helps you sleep at night. Also, HotS is not balanced atm; e.g., Z are UP, Widow Mines and Photon Overcharge need further examining etc. Anyway, gl in future endeavors Stephano. Yeah, that's why all the last finals were ZvZ and even the zerg players themselves admitted there were balance issues with zerg. Because when Fruitdealer reached the Final and won, Z were OP...rofl, get a grip.
Really, you think that one zerg reaching a final one time is the same thing as two different zergs being in multiple straight finals? Ok, let's just ignore common sense.
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On August 06 2013 14:37 GolemMadness wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2013 14:36 F.O.A.D. wrote:On August 06 2013 14:29 GolemMadness wrote:On August 06 2013 14:28 F.O.A.D. wrote:On August 06 2013 12:05 ZataN wrote:On August 06 2013 11:59 Terranist wrote:On August 06 2013 11:14 Iron_ wrote:
I certainly think he was good for the game, but his big money and big wins came when zerg was IMBA as all get out. The winnings will not carry him anymore, so good call on the timing. this is the truth. even stephano admitted that zerg had a big advantage in every matchup and that he did not even care who his opponent was because he did the same thing every game. Stephano confirmed for exploiting imba then quitting when its balanced. lol'd Z was never OP in WoL, but you T/P-players can keep telling yourselves that if it helps you sleep at night. Also, HotS is not balanced atm; e.g., Z are UP, Widow Mines and Photon Overcharge need further examining etc. Anyway, gl in future endeavors Stephano. Yeah, that's why all the last finals were ZvZ and even the zerg players themselves admitted there were balance issues with zerg. Because when Fruitdealer reached the Final and won, Z were OP...rofl, get a grip. Really, you think that one zerg reaching a final one time is the same thing as two different zergs being in multiple straight finals? Ok, let's just ignore common sense.
That has been done before in this thread (e.g. people caliming to know how stephano thinks and makes his decisions ~ OF COURSE, it's so feasible to get to know somebody through television...). He is in good (or bad) company!
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On June 21 2013 17:24 Xorphene wrote:Really? I don't like the guy, I find him to be arrogant, egotistical and to be making one too many bad jokes all the time. That said his determination and vision to fund a career in medicine is outstanding and he should be applauded for the PASSION for his future career and the PASSION he invested into SC2 to achieve his goal.
Funny, that's why i like Stephano and IdrA alot, without those ppl, E-Sports would just be half the fun it is
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I hope he does well in his last effort, raising the French flag of the Swarm one last time. Now who will we have to break the meta game for us? 
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On August 06 2013 14:29 GolemMadness wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2013 14:28 F.O.A.D. wrote:On August 06 2013 12:05 ZataN wrote:On August 06 2013 11:59 Terranist wrote:On August 06 2013 11:14 Iron_ wrote:
I certainly think he was good for the game, but his big money and big wins came when zerg was IMBA as all get out. The winnings will not carry him anymore, so good call on the timing. this is the truth. even stephano admitted that zerg had a big advantage in every matchup and that he did not even care who his opponent was because he did the same thing every game. Stephano confirmed for exploiting imba then quitting when its balanced. lol'd Z was never OP in WoL, but you T/P-players can keep telling yourselves that if it helps you sleep at night. Also, HotS is not balanced atm; e.g., Z are UP, Widow Mines and Photon Overcharge need further examining etc. Anyway, gl in future endeavors Stephano. Yeah, that's why all the last finals were ZvZ and even the zerg players themselves admitted there were balance issues with zerg.
That is an outright lie, Z has been underperforming in hots in the highest tiers of play, that is a statistical truth.
Just checking liquidpedia right now, the past 4 tournaments only 1 z was in the finals.
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On August 06 2013 20:22 Cinim wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2013 14:29 GolemMadness wrote:On August 06 2013 14:28 F.O.A.D. wrote:On August 06 2013 12:05 ZataN wrote:On August 06 2013 11:59 Terranist wrote:On August 06 2013 11:14 Iron_ wrote:
I certainly think he was good for the game, but his big money and big wins came when zerg was IMBA as all get out. The winnings will not carry him anymore, so good call on the timing. this is the truth. even stephano admitted that zerg had a big advantage in every matchup and that he did not even care who his opponent was because he did the same thing every game. Stephano confirmed for exploiting imba then quitting when its balanced. lol'd Z was never OP in WoL, but you T/P-players can keep telling yourselves that if it helps you sleep at night. Also, HotS is not balanced atm; e.g., Z are UP, Widow Mines and Photon Overcharge need further examining etc. Anyway, gl in future endeavors Stephano. Yeah, that's why all the last finals were ZvZ and even the zerg players themselves admitted there were balance issues with zerg. That is an outright lie, Z has been underperforming in hots in the highest tiers of play, that is a statistical truth. Just checking liquidpedia right now, the past 4 tournaments only 1 z was in the finals.
Hes talking about wol durp di durp di dum.
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I wonder how often stephano reads threads like this to laugh
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I dont care what other people say about hype and what not, but im gonna miss stephano tbh. I already barely watch sc2 tournaments anymore because he isnt in them. He was like the only foreigner who could consistently beat koreans. Sc2 will miss you my darling.
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Still think that people are overlooking just how intelligent of a player he was? Ok, he racked up a lot of wins during a time of zerg superiority, but, it was still him taking those wins on a more consistent basis then most other zergs! He single handedly innovated zerg match ups to an extent where he sometimes broke the metagame!  Not to mention, Stephano began his rise before the time of the legendary 'patch zergs'. So yeah... think he deserves a lot of credit tbh.
Oh, and thank you Ilyes... for being one of the most amazing personalities in starcraft! Certainly need more people like him, naniwa and even idra! (bringing in dat publicity!)
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I hope he can still play casually, and maybe play some showmatches from time to time.
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On August 06 2013 20:22 Cinim wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2013 14:29 GolemMadness wrote:On August 06 2013 14:28 F.O.A.D. wrote:On August 06 2013 12:05 ZataN wrote:On August 06 2013 11:59 Terranist wrote:On August 06 2013 11:14 Iron_ wrote:
I certainly think he was good for the game, but his big money and big wins came when zerg was IMBA as all get out. The winnings will not carry him anymore, so good call on the timing. this is the truth. even stephano admitted that zerg had a big advantage in every matchup and that he did not even care who his opponent was because he did the same thing every game. Stephano confirmed for exploiting imba then quitting when its balanced. lol'd Z was never OP in WoL, but you T/P-players can keep telling yourselves that if it helps you sleep at night. Also, HotS is not balanced atm; e.g., Z are UP, Widow Mines and Photon Overcharge need further examining etc. Anyway, gl in future endeavors Stephano. Yeah, that's why all the last finals were ZvZ and even the zerg players themselves admitted there were balance issues with zerg. That is an outright lie, Z has been underperforming in hots in the highest tiers of play, that is a statistical truth. Just checking liquidpedia right now, the past 4 tournaments only 1 z was in the finals.
stop this nonsense if you know nothing about statistics..
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On August 06 2013 20:22 Cinim wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2013 14:29 GolemMadness wrote:On August 06 2013 14:28 F.O.A.D. wrote:On August 06 2013 12:05 ZataN wrote:On August 06 2013 11:59 Terranist wrote:On August 06 2013 11:14 Iron_ wrote:
I certainly think he was good for the game, but his big money and big wins came when zerg was IMBA as all get out. The winnings will not carry him anymore, so good call on the timing. this is the truth. even stephano admitted that zerg had a big advantage in every matchup and that he did not even care who his opponent was because he did the same thing every game. Stephano confirmed for exploiting imba then quitting when its balanced. lol'd Z was never OP in WoL, but you T/P-players can keep telling yourselves that if it helps you sleep at night. Also, HotS is not balanced atm; e.g., Z are UP, Widow Mines and Photon Overcharge need further examining etc. Anyway, gl in future endeavors Stephano. Yeah, that's why all the last finals were ZvZ and even the zerg players themselves admitted there were balance issues with zerg. That is an outright lie, Z has been underperforming in hots in the highest tiers of play, that is a statistical truth. Just checking liquidpedia right now, the past 4 tournaments only 1 z was in the finals.
Look at protoss in the last 10 months of wol.
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I always laugh at anyone who says "you can't be a pro gamer forever".
Erm, why? How do you know? How do you possibly know that in 10 years time e-sports wont be so big you can EASILY be a pro gamer forever? We already have people like grubby and Whitera who have been pro gamers for a long time and they seem fine, Is their some magical force stopping them from competing as time goes on? Stop being so "old fashioned", you are half the reason e-sports isnt doing as well as it is. You support it yet say "you cant be a pro gamer forever" thus also condemning it at the same time.
I don't know about you guys but I would love for e-sports to be as big as football, rugby, tennis or any of the other "real sports". That will only happen if people want it to, so the very fans of it condemning it by saying that you can't get a career as a pro gamer aren't helping.
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I do still recall that random french kid winning IPL over some pretty big names.
Too cool for e-sports, good luck at school.
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Why do people bump this thread with balance whine, when not a single person in here, is qualified to do that?
PS, I think and hope that Stephano wins this season of WCS 
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Did someone seriously just say that Zerg wasn't overpowered at the end of WOL?
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On August 06 2013 20:22 Cinim wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2013 14:29 GolemMadness wrote:On August 06 2013 14:28 F.O.A.D. wrote:On August 06 2013 12:05 ZataN wrote:On August 06 2013 11:59 Terranist wrote:On August 06 2013 11:14 Iron_ wrote:
I certainly think he was good for the game, but his big money and big wins came when zerg was IMBA as all get out. The winnings will not carry him anymore, so good call on the timing. this is the truth. even stephano admitted that zerg had a big advantage in every matchup and that he did not even care who his opponent was because he did the same thing every game. Stephano confirmed for exploiting imba then quitting when its balanced. lol'd Z was never OP in WoL, but you T/P-players can keep telling yourselves that if it helps you sleep at night. Also, HotS is not balanced atm; e.g., Z are UP, Widow Mines and Photon Overcharge need further examining etc. Anyway, gl in future endeavors Stephano. Yeah, that's why all the last finals were ZvZ and even the zerg players themselves admitted there were balance issues with zerg. That is an outright lie, Z has been underperforming in hots in the highest tiers of play, that is a statistical truth. Just checking liquidpedia right now, the past 4 tournaments only 1 z was in the finals.
Take a close look:
- http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/hots/individual-leagues
- http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Premier_Tournaments
Then come back and say that again.
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On August 06 2013 20:22 Cinim wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2013 14:29 GolemMadness wrote:On August 06 2013 14:28 F.O.A.D. wrote:On August 06 2013 12:05 ZataN wrote:On August 06 2013 11:59 Terranist wrote:On August 06 2013 11:14 Iron_ wrote:
I certainly think he was good for the game, but his big money and big wins came when zerg was IMBA as all get out. The winnings will not carry him anymore, so good call on the timing. this is the truth. even stephano admitted that zerg had a big advantage in every matchup and that he did not even care who his opponent was because he did the same thing every game. Stephano confirmed for exploiting imba then quitting when its balanced. lol'd Z was never OP in WoL, but you T/P-players can keep telling yourselves that if it helps you sleep at night. Also, HotS is not balanced atm; e.g., Z are UP, Widow Mines and Photon Overcharge need further examining etc. Anyway, gl in future endeavors Stephano. Yeah, that's why all the last finals were ZvZ and even the zerg players themselves admitted there were balance issues with zerg. That is an outright lie, Z has been underperforming in hots in the highest tiers of play, that is a statistical truth. Just checking liquidpedia right now, the past 4 tournaments only 1 z was in the finals.
What statistical analysis did you use?
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