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Lobotomist
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1541 Posts
May 10 2013 05:38 GMT
#2221
So he was let go because of bad attitude, not lack of results?!?
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 10 2013 05:39 GMT
#2222
On May 10 2013 14:32 739 wrote:
[image loading]

This pretty much sums it up. I'm happy it happened actually

You actually have less than half the context there http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=411483&currentpage=4
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Rabiator
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany3948 Posts
May 10 2013 05:39 GMT
#2223
On May 10 2013 14:26 vesicular wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 14:24 ninazerg wrote:
Nobody in SC2 is being paid enough to be considered "wealthy", period.


Mmm, Flash may take issue with that.

That may be the one (or one of the few) exception(s), but the average salary is going to be just "low-regular".

The problem with eSports is that there is - to use Starcraft terminology - no logical transition into any other job not connected to eSport and the jobs that could be transitions (casting and streaming/organizing events) are very limited and already taken. The problem is that you cant learn new things as easily anymore when you are 25+ and you kinda wasted the time playing a game and gathering specific knowledge which becomes irrelevant when no one plays the game anymore.

Just because there is a handful of people who make enough money for the rest of their lives in the few years of eSport doesnt mean it is a healthy career option for kids. IdrA is a good specimen to study and to see what happens next ... when he does something completely different. As iNcontrol suggested he may have some passions to turn into a job, but that could also end up with him complaining about "imbalanced lobsters" in the kitchen.
If you cant say what you're meaning, you can never mean what you're saying.
tredogz
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada170 Posts
May 10 2013 05:39 GMT
#2224
Alex, I am a boss, I know what stress and Emotions does to those we work with. I know they get the better of you. I am sry you made rash decisions. You will regret this for years and years. Idra is more important to eSports than you know, he IS eSports.
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lannisport
Profile Joined February 2012
878 Posts
May 10 2013 05:39 GMT
#2225
Bravo. He dislikes the game, says some of the most offensive things you can say while getting away with it, and even dislikes his own god damn fanbase (All the while taking home a big pay check). MMMmmm. Schaudenfreude. On the other hand, you can't forget that idra did move to korea for 3 years and joined Cj Entus at a time when the foreigner scene was at a lull. You can't say he wasn't dedicated. I feel really bad for Incontrol and all people this affects.

vesicular
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1310 Posts
May 10 2013 05:39 GMT
#2226
On May 10 2013 14:38 thezanursic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 14:35 ninazerg wrote:
On May 10 2013 14:33 BisuDagger wrote:
On May 10 2013 14:29 ninazerg wrote:
On May 10 2013 14:26 vesicular wrote:
On May 10 2013 14:24 ninazerg wrote:
Nobody in SC2 is being paid enough to be considered "wealthy", period.


Mmm, Flash may take issue with that.


Why, how much is he making for playing SC2?

His salary is still a continuation from sc1 so he's making over a 100k.


hm, I guess that really depends on how much you think 100k is.

I don't really think of 100k as "wealthy", although personally, I think it would be amazing to make that much money. In Korea, it might go further than in America though.

I think FlasH has probably banked a little over a million with his winnings + his salary from BW


He has, he went over $1 million two years ago. That said, he has said he gives it all to his parents to manage.
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armada[sb]
Profile Joined August 2011
United States432 Posts
May 10 2013 05:40 GMT
#2227
If you don't think a six figure salary makes you wealth you live in ignorance of the rest of the world.
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Malkavian183
Profile Joined February 2011
Turkey227 Posts
May 10 2013 05:41 GMT
#2228
On May 10 2013 14:31 Rccodes wrote:
well eg threw away thousands of ad views per day... for what? him doing what youve supported him doing the past 3 years? being himself and joking with the community... i would've figured since none of their players are winning anything that at the very least idra was a prime commodity as he carries a far larger fan/viewer base than almost anyone else. sounds more like alex garfield had a bad day and stopped popping his zoloft or someshit... if stephano leaves EG at the end of the year you can bet sponsors will follow, thats prob like 1/3 of the projected eye balls for sponsors gone. anyways good time to start acting classy EG, now maybe those incontrol comments about nazis and jews will have repercussions, stay frosty!


I liked IdrA's beheaviour because I think he was the only player with balls to say what he thinks.

Even so I don't think that it is about his success or behavior:

1- Idra always was this way. He had major argments and major offence multiple times. Why now?

2- People like machine haven't had any major (minor?) success for as long as I can remember. Why throw him because he haven't been performing his best lately.

There probably is something other then what's been said here. If this is the reason than Alex is a man who doesn't know why he does what he does.
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SCST
Profile Joined November 2011
Mexico1609 Posts
May 10 2013 05:41 GMT
#2229
On May 10 2013 14:36 Agnosthar wrote:
Not really paid much attention to Starcraft drama recently. One thing I've seen hinted at is Idra's attitude towards Demuslim. I've seen that Idra called him a "shit player" and watched Demuslim talk about gifting him wins to relieve tension. Has there been a thread about this? Is this one of the reasons Idra has been fired or has there been a comment from someone in EG about this?


I speculate that this had something to do with it, honestly. Idra started some drama between him and Demuslim when he played a game against him while they were both streaming, and called DemuSlim a "shit player" on his stream after losing to him. DemuSlim found out about this and was obviously upset, and stream-sniped Idra as a joke. After this, Idra started to instantly leave the games against Demuslim every time they met on ladder. Demuslim expressed frequently that he wanted the drama to go away so they could be amiable teammates again, but Idra wouldn't let it go.

Not sure how much this had to do with it, but it's possible it had an impact of some kind.
"The weak cannot forgive. Forgiveness is an attribute of the strong." - Gandhi
Lysenko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Iceland2128 Posts
May 10 2013 05:42 GMT
#2230
On May 10 2013 14:35 ninazerg wrote:
I don't really think of 100k as "wealthy", although personally, I think it would be amazing to make that much money. In Korea, it might go further than in America though.


I live in Santa Monica, California, where $100k/yr is enough for one person to rent (not buy) an older-construction one-bedroom apartment in a nice but high-traffic neighborhood, pay bills, eat out occasionally, and save some but not that much money.

So, at least here it's comfortable but there's not much "wealth" in it.

Pretty sure that Seoul is more expensive than here.
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SamsungStar
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States912 Posts
May 10 2013 05:43 GMT
#2231
On May 10 2013 14:40 armada[sb] wrote:
If you don't think a six figure salary makes you wealth you live in ignorance of the rest of the world.


Or you don't understand the meaning of the word "wealthy." It's quite different from "well-off." People who make a $100K a year are lower middle class in America tbh. America is a country with extremely unequal levels of income. The actual upper class in America constitutes only about 0.4% of the population, and they are VASTLY wealthier than the category right below them. Those people are considered wealthy. Celebs, etc are considered rich. And plebians who make $100K or so are just doing alright.

Then again, this is a forum of younger kids for the most part so to them six figures must seem like quite a lot of money.
Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
May 10 2013 05:43 GMT
#2232
On May 10 2013 14:17 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 14:15 Maloreon wrote:
On May 10 2013 14:12 Caihead wrote:
On May 10 2013 14:09 Maloreon wrote:
On May 10 2013 14:01 Caihead wrote:
On May 10 2013 13:59 Maloreon wrote:
On May 10 2013 13:56 SCST wrote:
On May 10 2013 13:52 RoboSnail wrote:
On May 10 2013 13:48 SCST wrote:
On May 10 2013 13:38 RoboSnail wrote:
[quote]

You are a liar, you have contributed in the past and you are contributing now making him ever more popular.


Think you need to chill out there bub. It's not you & Idra against the community . . . it's just you against a few select people who troll Idra in his stream chat.

As many of us have said before in the thread - Idra stated that all of the community are "a bunch of fucks". He insults all players, even guys like Polt by being BM in world-wide broadcasted games. I'm sorry to say that you are not special. Idra doesn't like you, either. You are not a special snowflake. I feel bad for "fans" that don't understand this. =/


Idra doesn't need to like me, He doesn't owe me or anyone else anything. The community should be thanking him for the life he breathed into it.


There's a recognized disorder that describes "thanking" people that are abusive to you . . . scan up a couple posts. It starts with an "S".


Are you actually equating Idra's personality or statements toward fans and/or their reaction towards him in an online VIDEO GAME forum community to a disorder such as Stockholm?? I mean normally internet forums get pretty far out there but seriously... lol.


Idra's had real life psychiatrists.


Unfortunately I'm afraid you don't understand what this disorder is or even the relevance (or lack thereof) to making the analogy that was made.


I'm just saying that neither are you qualified to dismiss anything on the basis of knowledge you don't have. Idra actually has personal problems which may or may not be psychiatric that requires attention from his friends and social circle, what ever they are ain't our business.


Unlike you I actually work in a mental health field and realize how poor and crude this analogy is. Idra more likely has psychological problems, not ones requiring psychiatric care. He has a mental block when it comes to performing certain tasks in his chosen field of employment - not a need for medicine. I think my entire point is lost on these forums though, and posters like that in particular, who really don't know anything about psychological disorders and make crude analogies for basically no reason.


No... Idra's actually had real life psychiatrists. This is a fact. Ask Incontrol. This happened like 1 1/2 years ago.


A lot of people have had professional help. That doesn't make them damaged goods, which is the vibe I'm getting from a lot of posts here.
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 05:45:31
May 10 2013 05:43 GMT
#2233
On May 10 2013 14:41 Malkavian183 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 14:31 Rccodes wrote:
well eg threw away thousands of ad views per day... for what? him doing what youve supported him doing the past 3 years? being himself and joking with the community... i would've figured since none of their players are winning anything that at the very least idra was a prime commodity as he carries a far larger fan/viewer base than almost anyone else. sounds more like alex garfield had a bad day and stopped popping his zoloft or someshit... if stephano leaves EG at the end of the year you can bet sponsors will follow, thats prob like 1/3 of the projected eye balls for sponsors gone. anyways good time to start acting classy EG, now maybe those incontrol comments about nazis and jews will have repercussions, stay frosty!


I liked IdrA's beheaviour because I think he was the only player with balls to say what he thinks.

Even so I don't think that it is about his success or behavior:

1- Idra always was this way. He had major argments and major offence multiple times. Why now?

2- People like machine haven't had any major (minor?) success for as long as I can remember. Why throw him because he haven't been performing his best lately.

There probably is something other then what's been said here. If this is the reason than Alex is a man who doesn't know why he does what he does.


1. Straw that broke the camel's back.

2. Players are liked and kept on teams for differing reasons, Idra was basically a esports culture celebrity riding the waves of his fan base that he's gathered, and as long as that media attention meant positive imaging for EG or that the attracted attention outweighed the cons for the management it was enough to warrant him staying on the team.

Evidently they've decided that this just wasn't cutting it any more.

On May 10 2013 14:43 Ansinjunger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 14:17 Caihead wrote:
On May 10 2013 14:15 Maloreon wrote:
On May 10 2013 14:12 Caihead wrote:
On May 10 2013 14:09 Maloreon wrote:
On May 10 2013 14:01 Caihead wrote:
On May 10 2013 13:59 Maloreon wrote:
On May 10 2013 13:56 SCST wrote:
On May 10 2013 13:52 RoboSnail wrote:
On May 10 2013 13:48 SCST wrote:
[quote]

Think you need to chill out there bub. It's not you & Idra against the community . . . it's just you against a few select people who troll Idra in his stream chat.

As many of us have said before in the thread - Idra stated that all of the community are "a bunch of fucks". He insults all players, even guys like Polt by being BM in world-wide broadcasted games. I'm sorry to say that you are not special. Idra doesn't like you, either. You are not a special snowflake. I feel bad for "fans" that don't understand this. =/


Idra doesn't need to like me, He doesn't owe me or anyone else anything. The community should be thanking him for the life he breathed into it.


There's a recognized disorder that describes "thanking" people that are abusive to you . . . scan up a couple posts. It starts with an "S".


Are you actually equating Idra's personality or statements toward fans and/or their reaction towards him in an online VIDEO GAME forum community to a disorder such as Stockholm?? I mean normally internet forums get pretty far out there but seriously... lol.


Idra's had real life psychiatrists.


Unfortunately I'm afraid you don't understand what this disorder is or even the relevance (or lack thereof) to making the analogy that was made.


I'm just saying that neither are you qualified to dismiss anything on the basis of knowledge you don't have. Idra actually has personal problems which may or may not be psychiatric that requires attention from his friends and social circle, what ever they are ain't our business.


Unlike you I actually work in a mental health field and realize how poor and crude this analogy is. Idra more likely has psychological problems, not ones requiring psychiatric care. He has a mental block when it comes to performing certain tasks in his chosen field of employment - not a need for medicine. I think my entire point is lost on these forums though, and posters like that in particular, who really don't know anything about psychological disorders and make crude analogies for basically no reason.


No... Idra's actually had real life psychiatrists. This is a fact. Ask Incontrol. This happened like 1 1/2 years ago.


A lot of people have had professional help. That doesn't make them damaged goods, which is the vibe I'm getting from a lot of posts here.


Not saying that he is, people are just throwing their own diagnosis' around like they always do (saying that someone has absolutely zero problems is also a diagnosis) with out considering that this media culture feeding frenzy might actually be hurting a person.
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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
May 10 2013 05:44 GMT
#2234
On May 10 2013 14:37 Rccodes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 14:35 ninazerg wrote:
On May 10 2013 14:33 BisuDagger wrote:
On May 10 2013 14:29 ninazerg wrote:
On May 10 2013 14:26 vesicular wrote:
On May 10 2013 14:24 ninazerg wrote:
Nobody in SC2 is being paid enough to be considered "wealthy", period.


Mmm, Flash may take issue with that.


Why, how much is he making for playing SC2?

His salary is still a continuation from sc1 so he's making over a 100k.


hm, I guess that really depends on how much you think 100k is.

I don't really think of 100k as "wealthy", although personally, I think it would be amazing to make that much money. In Korea, it might go further than in America though.



soo you wouldnt consider being 25 with close to a quarter million dollars banked and making 6 figures every year wealthy>? what world did you grow up in?> daddy mustve been a brain surgeon or something with that attitude.


You must've missed the part where I said it would be amazing for me to make that kind of money. I'm sure if you read that part, you wouldn't have been so quick to try and insult me personally, insinuating that I'm a spoiled child with a rich father. My family was poor and I grew up broke, thank you very much.
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Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
May 10 2013 05:44 GMT
#2235
On May 10 2013 14:39 tredogz wrote:
Alex, I am a boss, I know what stress and Emotions does to those we work with. I know they get the better of you. I am sry you made rash decisions. You will regret this for years and years. Idra is more important to eSports than you know, he IS eSports.


Idra has some really delusional fans, it seems.
BW forever || Thall
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
May 10 2013 05:44 GMT
#2236
Sorry but I ain't in the know

Can someone explain to me please what happened? Or a link to an explanation in the thread would also be greatly appreciated.

Is this an overreaction from EG?
The heart's eternal vow
Rccodes
Profile Joined March 2013
11 Posts
May 10 2013 05:45 GMT
#2237
On May 10 2013 14:41 Malkavian183 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 14:31 Rccodes wrote:
well eg threw away thousands of ad views per day... for what? him doing what youve supported him doing the past 3 years? being himself and joking with the community... i would've figured since none of their players are winning anything that at the very least idra was a prime commodity as he carries a far larger fan/viewer base than almost anyone else. sounds more like alex garfield had a bad day and stopped popping his zoloft or someshit... if stephano leaves EG at the end of the year you can bet sponsors will follow, thats prob like 1/3 of the projected eye balls for sponsors gone. anyways good time to start acting classy EG, now maybe those incontrol comments about nazis and jews will have repercussions, stay frosty!


I liked IdrA's beheaviour because I think he was the only player with balls to say what he thinks.

Even so I don't think that it is about his success or behavior:

1- Idra always was this way. He had major argments and major offence multiple times. Why now?

2- People like machine haven't had any major (minor?) success for as long as I can remember. Why throw him because he haven't been performing his best lately.

There probably is something other then what's been said here. If this is the reason than Alex is a man who doesn't know why he does what he does.


I have to say i agree with both points, and i do believe something else must of went on. I can only hope should idra stay in esports that he lands a team with less publicity and can get back to the roots of progaming and fuck the hype train that went along with EG.
Xorphene
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom492 Posts
May 10 2013 05:45 GMT
#2238
To all the people thinking Greg shit on the community, you're right he did.

However, looking through every post on this thread it appears that so so many people are now shitting on Greg, hypocrits much....

Good luck for the future Greg.
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Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 05:46:10
May 10 2013 05:45 GMT
#2239
On May 10 2013 14:39 tredogz wrote:
Alex, I am a boss, I know what stress and Emotions does to those we work with. I know they get the better of you. I am sry you made rash decisions. You will regret this for years and years. Idra is more important to eSports than you know, he IS eSports.

LOLOLOLOL
IdrA is eSports? Joke of the year, hands down.
Also, I don't think as a "boss" you would have such bad grammatical errors.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
May 10 2013 05:45 GMT
#2240
On May 10 2013 14:39 tredogz wrote:
Alex, I am a boss, I know what stress and Emotions does to those we work with. I know they get the better of you. I am sry you made rash decisions. You will regret this for years and years. Idra is more important to eSports than you know, he IS eSports.

Do you think so? eSports have been taking place for what, 15-20 years now? Do you really believe that eSports need a person such as Idra? A guy who doesn't even have love for the game.
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