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Moonling
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States987 Posts
May 10 2013 05:53 GMT
#2261
WTF EG.. this is just sad.
1% of koreans control 99% of starcraft winnings. #occupykorea.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
May 10 2013 05:54 GMT
#2262
holy shit....absolutely did not see this one coming. I figured Idra would retire first before EG ever released him.

His comment of calling the community a "bunch of fucks" finally broke the camel's back I suppose. Wow, going to be strange seeing the face of EG and one of the most iconic players out there without a team xD
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3xTr4_FragQuenz
Profile Joined August 2011
36 Posts
May 10 2013 05:54 GMT
#2263
Yep, it was kinda obvious but still sad to hear...
achan1058
Profile Joined February 2012
1091 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 05:57:15
May 10 2013 05:54 GMT
#2264
On May 10 2013 14:51 RoboSnail wrote:
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On May 10 2013 14:46 vesicular wrote:
On May 10 2013 14:39 tredogz wrote:
Alex, I am a boss, I know what stress and Emotions does to those we work with. I know they get the better of you. I am sry you made rash decisions. You will regret this for years and years. Idra is more important to eSports than you know, he IS eSports.


That's interesting because I also own a business with a staff, and I would have fired Idra a long time ago. The most important part of running a business is to know when to cut your losses. Idra became a liability (I would say this actually happened with his comments about David Kim).

There will always be other players, new rising stars, etc. It's simply not worth it to keep someone with Idra's mind state on a team. He can be replaced.

In fact, that's something everyone should learn, you can always be replaced.


If idra worked for you and you fired him in this hypothetical situation you would lose thousands of fans and gain what? How is that good business? If you really believe EG will gain respect for this you are a fool.

There is at least 1 person whom EG would have gained respect from, and I suspect there are many more out there, but I cannot confirm since I am not them.
On May 10 2013 14:48 ninazerg wrote:
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On May 10 2013 14:46 Rccodes wrote:
On May 10 2013 14:44 ninazerg wrote:
On May 10 2013 14:37 Rccodes wrote:
On May 10 2013 14:35 ninazerg wrote:
On May 10 2013 14:33 BisuDagger wrote:
On May 10 2013 14:29 ninazerg wrote:
On May 10 2013 14:26 vesicular wrote:
On May 10 2013 14:24 ninazerg wrote:
Nobody in SC2 is being paid enough to be considered "wealthy", period.


Mmm, Flash may take issue with that.


Why, how much is he making for playing SC2?

His salary is still a continuation from sc1 so he's making over a 100k.


hm, I guess that really depends on how much you think 100k is.

I don't really think of 100k as "wealthy", although personally, I think it would be amazing to make that much money. In Korea, it might go further than in America though.



soo you wouldnt consider being 25 with close to a quarter million dollars banked and making 6 figures every year wealthy>? what world did you grow up in?> daddy mustve been a brain surgeon or something with that attitude.


You must've missed the part where I said it would be amazing for me to make that kind of money. I'm sure if you read that part, you wouldn't have been so quick to try and insult me personally, insinuating that I'm a spoiled child with a rich father. My family was poor and I grew up broke, thank you very much.


your a contradiction to yourself.


Oh, 8-post user. =\

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On May 10 2013 14:39 tredogz wrote:
Alex, I am a boss.


Are you now?

+ Show Spoiler +




I was thinking about the other kind of boss.
+ Show Spoiler +


dashpar
Profile Joined May 2012
United States20 Posts
May 10 2013 05:54 GMT
#2265
Tarababcock give me a break... She doesn't play because she likes it. She plays for the little money in it she see's. Plus she's practically a porn actor. When she streams she has way to many ads and she makes sure you can see right down her dress. Ms Spyte is good and she has class! Plus she can draw too! Have you seen her Zerg? It's awesome! What can tarababcock do?

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vesicular
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1310 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 05:59:26
May 10 2013 05:54 GMT
#2266
On May 10 2013 14:51 RoboSnail wrote:
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On May 10 2013 14:46 vesicular wrote:
On May 10 2013 14:39 tredogz wrote:
Alex, I am a boss, I know what stress and Emotions does to those we work with. I know they get the better of you. I am sry you made rash decisions. You will regret this for years and years. Idra is more important to eSports than you know, he IS eSports.


That's interesting because I also own a business with a staff, and I would have fired Idra a long time ago. The most important part of running a business is to know when to cut your losses. Idra became a liability (I would say this actually happened with his comments about David Kim).

There will always be other players, new rising stars, etc. It's simply not worth it to keep someone with Idra's mind state on a team. He can be replaced.

In fact, that's something everyone should learn, you can always be replaced.


If idra worked for you and you fired him in this hypothetical situation you would lose thousands of fans and gain what? How is that good business? If you really believe EG will gain respect for this you are a fool.


Please tell me where I said anything about respect. This was a business decision. From a business perspective damn right it was the right move. Until you own a business with a payroll and a staff this isn't always obvious.
STX Fighting!
RockIronrod
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia1369 Posts
May 10 2013 05:56 GMT
#2267
On May 10 2013 14:53 scypio wrote:
Did they just say that IdrA was in fact too evil O_o ?

No, he's too petty.
ixi.genocide
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States981 Posts
May 10 2013 05:57 GMT
#2268
On May 10 2013 14:43 SamsungStar wrote:
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On May 10 2013 14:40 armada[sb] wrote:
If you don't think a six figure salary makes you wealth you live in ignorance of the rest of the world.


Or you don't understand the meaning of the word "wealthy." It's quite different from "well-off." People who make a $100K a year are lower middle class in America tbh. America is a country with extremely unequal levels of income. The actual upper class in America constitutes only about 0.4% of the population, and they are VASTLY wealthier than the category right below them. Those people are considered wealthy. Celebs, etc are considered rich. And plebians who make $100K or so are just doing alright.

Then again, this is a forum of younger kids for the most part so to them six figures must seem like quite a lot of money.


100k a year is not Wealthy but it is well off. Also 100k a year is not lower-middle class. It is upper class through and through; Especially if it is 1 persons income. Lower class is deemed 17k (+ 6k for each additional person) per household and average wage is approximately 45k. 100k per year for someone in their career prime (mid 30's through 50's) is pretty awesome and will be very comfortable in all but the most affluent neighborhoods. A 25 year old with no degree and experience outside of handling himself in the entertainment business (which is what he says he does) making 100k is phenominal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income_in_the_United_States
For Both middle class and lower class info.
The US Census page uses XLS files so that can't be linked
http://www.coli.org/COLIAdjustedMHI.asp
Should be sufficient for Cost of living . Note how 100k is well above the even New york city.
Mothra
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States1448 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 06:05:25
May 10 2013 05:58 GMT
#2269
On May 10 2013 14:39 Jrocker152 wrote:
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On May 10 2013 14:32 739 wrote:
[image loading]

This pretty much sums it up. I'm happy it happened actually

You actually have less than half the context there http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=411483&currentpage=4


I think Idra's post before the last one was actually rather interesting. It seems he is disgusted with the community for raising him on a pedestal despite his poor results. It's true that when top tier Koreans stream they often get less viewers than players who are not currently competitive. Perhaps Idra was tired of being a novelty rather than a competitor. I suspect that he is as harsh on himself as he is on others, and maybe he finally had enough of getting more money and attention than players who are better than him. Here's the quote if the image is hard to see:

talk to your fellow viewers then. because they dont reward results, either for players or teams. code S koreans can stream and get less than 500 viewers. the community forgets about a big tournament win as soon as the next big tournament happens. a business' purpose is to make money. winning is at best tangentially related to making money in this industry, solely because of what you and the rest of the community chooses to watch. and any company who tries to lead the charge in the direction you're asking for is gonna go out of business. we arent "abusing a competitive platform" we work in an entertainment industry and you guys are entertained by pandering, not competition.
SCST
Profile Joined November 2011
Mexico1609 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 05:58:44
May 10 2013 05:58 GMT
#2270
On May 10 2013 14:51 RoboSnail wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 14:46 vesicular wrote:
On May 10 2013 14:39 tredogz wrote:
Alex, I am a boss, I know what stress and Emotions does to those we work with. I know they get the better of you. I am sry you made rash decisions. You will regret this for years and years. Idra is more important to eSports than you know, he IS eSports.


That's interesting because I also own a business with a staff, and I would have fired Idra a long time ago. The most important part of running a business is to know when to cut your losses. Idra became a liability (I would say this actually happened with his comments about David Kim).

There will always be other players, new rising stars, etc. It's simply not worth it to keep someone with Idra's mind state on a team. He can be replaced.

In fact, that's something everyone should learn, you can always be replaced.


If idra worked for you and you fired him in this hypothetical situation you would lose thousands of fans and gain what? How is that good business? If you really believe EG will gain respect for this you are a fool.


You overestimate the power of Idra's "fan base'. I am one of Idra's "typical" fans, which constitutes the majority of his viewership, not those trolls in his chat-room or die-hard, obsessed fans. What makes me a typical fan is that I was never invested in Idra emotionally or personally, but I still cheered for at all of his matchups.

Most of us are done with Idra. I'm sorry to break the news, but when you call all of the casual viewers - the majority of your fan base, a "bunch of fucks" you tend to lose guys like us.

"The weak cannot forgive. Forgiveness is an attribute of the strong." - Gandhi
RoboSnail
Profile Joined June 2010
United States59 Posts
May 10 2013 05:58 GMT
#2271
On May 10 2013 14:54 vesicular wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 14:51 RoboSnail wrote:
On May 10 2013 14:46 vesicular wrote:
On May 10 2013 14:39 tredogz wrote:
Alex, I am a boss, I know what stress and Emotions does to those we work with. I know they get the better of you. I am sry you made rash decisions. You will regret this for years and years. Idra is more important to eSports than you know, he IS eSports.


That's interesting because I also own a business with a staff, and I would have fired Idra a long time ago. The most important part of running a business is to know when to cut your losses. Idra became a liability (I would say this actually happened with his comments about David Kim).

There will always be other players, new rising stars, etc. It's simply not worth it to keep someone with Idra's mind state on a team. He can be replaced.

In fact, that's something everyone should learn, you can always be replaced.


If idra worked for you and you fired him in this hypothetical situation you would lose thousands of fans and gain what? How is that good business? If you really believe EG will gain respect for this you are a fool.


Please tell me where I said anything about respect. This was a business decision. From a business perspective damn right it was a good move.


How is having less exposure/traffic a good business decision?
ffadicted
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3545 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 06:08:00
May 10 2013 05:59 GMT
#2272
Respect from the community means nothing limo ol you are not important to the point where anyone needs to please you. You are a fan. You're just along for the ride, you should have no say in anything tbh, that's why they never cared at this point. Results also mean almost nothing, as clearly proven because idra is right, that's not what community cares about. I'm certain the issue lies entirely with sponsorship, and as always, the $$$ talks, so when the sponsors call, people will oblige.

Sad to see tbh. Greg will be fine whatever he decides to do though. If he stays with SC2 he can easily get personal sponsorship or any other team that isn't stupid would be glad to pick him up. If he decides to move on, he's a smart guy, he'll figure it out.
SooYoung-Noona!
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
May 10 2013 05:59 GMT
#2273
On May 10 2013 14:54 achan1058 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 14:51 RoboSnail wrote:
On May 10 2013 14:46 vesicular wrote:
On May 10 2013 14:39 tredogz wrote:
Alex, I am a boss, I know what stress and Emotions does to those we work with. I know they get the better of you. I am sry you made rash decisions. You will regret this for years and years. Idra is more important to eSports than you know, he IS eSports.


That's interesting because I also own a business with a staff, and I would have fired Idra a long time ago. The most important part of running a business is to know when to cut your losses. Idra became a liability (I would say this actually happened with his comments about David Kim).

There will always be other players, new rising stars, etc. It's simply not worth it to keep someone with Idra's mind state on a team. He can be replaced.

In fact, that's something everyone should learn, you can always be replaced.


If idra worked for you and you fired him in this hypothetical situation you would lose thousands of fans and gain what? How is that good business? If you really believe EG will gain respect for this you are a fool.

There is at least 1 person whom EG would have gained respect from, and I suspect there are many more out there, but I cannot confirm since I am not them.
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 14:48 ninazerg wrote:
On May 10 2013 14:46 Rccodes wrote:
On May 10 2013 14:44 ninazerg wrote:
On May 10 2013 14:37 Rccodes wrote:
On May 10 2013 14:35 ninazerg wrote:
On May 10 2013 14:33 BisuDagger wrote:
On May 10 2013 14:29 ninazerg wrote:
On May 10 2013 14:26 vesicular wrote:
On May 10 2013 14:24 ninazerg wrote:
Nobody in SC2 is being paid enough to be considered "wealthy", period.


Mmm, Flash may take issue with that.


Why, how much is he making for playing SC2?

His salary is still a continuation from sc1 so he's making over a 100k.


hm, I guess that really depends on how much you think 100k is.

I don't really think of 100k as "wealthy", although personally, I think it would be amazing to make that much money. In Korea, it might go further than in America though.



soo you wouldnt consider being 25 with close to a quarter million dollars banked and making 6 figures every year wealthy>? what world did you grow up in?> daddy mustve been a brain surgeon or something with that attitude.


You must've missed the part where I said it would be amazing for me to make that kind of money. I'm sure if you read that part, you wouldn't have been so quick to try and insult me personally, insinuating that I'm a spoiled child with a rich father. My family was poor and I grew up broke, thank you very much.


your a contradiction to yourself.


Oh, 8-post user. =\

On May 10 2013 14:39 tredogz wrote:
Alex, I am a boss.


Are you now?

+ Show Spoiler +

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1cxP2nCBdU


I was thinking about the other kind of boss.
+ Show Spoiler +

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NisCkxU544c


Andy is best boss.

On May 10 2013 14:54 dashpar wrote:
Tarababcock give me a break... She doesn't play because she likes it. She plays for the little money in it she see's. Plus she's practically a porn actor. When she streams she has way to many ads and she makes sure you can see right down her dress. Ms Spyte is good and she has class! Plus she can draw too! Have you seen her Zerg? It's awesome! What can tarababcock do?


You kidding me? TaraBabcock is a supermodel gamer, and it's clear you're just hating on her for her looks. EG should hire her as soon as possible.
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Chaggi
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1936 Posts
May 10 2013 06:00 GMT
#2274
On May 10 2013 14:51 RoboSnail wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 14:46 vesicular wrote:
On May 10 2013 14:39 tredogz wrote:
Alex, I am a boss, I know what stress and Emotions does to those we work with. I know they get the better of you. I am sry you made rash decisions. You will regret this for years and years. Idra is more important to eSports than you know, he IS eSports.


That's interesting because I also own a business with a staff, and I would have fired Idra a long time ago. The most important part of running a business is to know when to cut your losses. Idra became a liability (I would say this actually happened with his comments about David Kim).

There will always be other players, new rising stars, etc. It's simply not worth it to keep someone with Idra's mind state on a team. He can be replaced.

In fact, that's something everyone should learn, you can always be replaced.


If idra worked for you and you fired him in this hypothetical situation you would lose thousands of fans and gain what? How is that good business? If you really believe EG will gain respect for this you are a fool.


actually it seems like you're the one is the fool. It's silly to believe that anyone who's commenting here can actually speak on what goes on within EG and how much Idra is worth. If you don't think that companies, especially ones as public and community based as EG, monitor if it's worth it to keep a player vs cutting their loses, you're just, I don't even know. Whatever, maybe you're just smarter than everyone in this topic and within EG.
ErrantKnight
Profile Joined November 2012
Switzerland186 Posts
May 10 2013 06:00 GMT
#2275
This can't be the real reason, Idra has always been BM and that never was problem, why release him now ?
"Quantity is quality by itself"
ryzorzen
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada9 Posts
May 10 2013 06:00 GMT
#2276
Why do people watch his stream so religiously? He's not good, predictable sensitive rage moments, unenthusiastic tone, takes personal shots at players/sponsors/fans alike, ends streams abruptly when he realizes he's still terrible, blames developers more than he offers any sort of valuable input, blatantly brags that he can live off ads and not salary or winnings. The list goes on and on. Idra doesn't need luck (to all those wishing it), he just needs you to watch his ads so he can show you how cool it is to play videogames full time on everyone elses dime and time. He basically said he doesn't need EG, why so shocked community? P-P-P-PEACE !
skylarr
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada209 Posts
May 10 2013 06:00 GMT
#2277
On May 10 2013 14:54 vesicular wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 14:51 RoboSnail wrote:
On May 10 2013 14:46 vesicular wrote:
On May 10 2013 14:39 tredogz wrote:
Alex, I am a boss, I know what stress and Emotions does to those we work with. I know they get the better of you. I am sry you made rash decisions. You will regret this for years and years. Idra is more important to eSports than you know, he IS eSports.


That's interesting because I also own a business with a staff, and I would have fired Idra a long time ago. The most important part of running a business is to know when to cut your losses. Idra became a liability (I would say this actually happened with his comments about David Kim).

There will always be other players, new rising stars, etc. It's simply not worth it to keep someone with Idra's mind state on a team. He can be replaced.

In fact, that's something everyone should learn, you can always be replaced.


If idra worked for you and you fired him in this hypothetical situation you would lose thousands of fans and gain what? How is that good business? If you really believe EG will gain respect for this you are a fool.


Please tell me where I said anything about respect. This was a business decision. From a business perspective damn right it was a good move.

It's pro and con. They lose all the attention idra brings to EG (you can argue Stephano and jaedong being eg players but they don't do talk shows like sotg and itg, cast occasionally, and promote EG sponsors like idra did). But idra made eg look bad with that TL post so doing this they clear up the bad image
Onzaa
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada11 Posts
May 10 2013 06:00 GMT
#2278
oh my lord this absolutely shocking news. Always been a huge fan of Idra.. I hope he does well in future teams or even get's back into EG.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 10 2013 06:01 GMT
#2279
On May 10 2013 14:45 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 14:39 tredogz wrote:
Alex, I am a boss, I know what stress and Emotions does to those we work with. I know they get the better of you. I am sry you made rash decisions. You will regret this for years and years. Idra is more important to eSports than you know, he IS eSports.

LOLOLOLOL
IdrA is eSports? Joke of the year, hands down.
Also, I don't think as a "boss" you would have such bad grammatical errors.

Grammar is not required to start up a multi- million dollar business, that's what secretaries are for. I live in Indian wells, some folks here can't spel beter then the intrnet peepul but they stil driv a furarri son. Sure, it's embarrassing until they tell you the story of how they overcame severe dyslexia.

Yeah. Shut up. I take offense because MY BOSS can't spell an he is one of the coolest people I've met. He's not the dyslexic and he drives a luxury truck but he just felt spelling was unnecessary until it was kind of too late.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
May 10 2013 06:01 GMT
#2280
Here's hoping this makes Idra go through the same transformation we saw from Naniwa.

Wishful thinking I know.
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