Then, when you realize you don't need him anymore, fire him for saying something that is genuinely true and not really offensive at all.
Well color me surprised.
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
May 10 2013 06:07 GMT
#2301
Then, when you realize you don't need him anymore, fire him for saying something that is genuinely true and not really offensive at all. Well color me surprised. | ||
ceaRshaf
Romania4926 Posts
May 10 2013 06:07 GMT
#2302
I think it's for the better though. | ||
dUTtrOACh
Canada2339 Posts
May 10 2013 06:08 GMT
#2303
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Rabiator
Germany3948 Posts
May 10 2013 06:09 GMT
#2304
On May 10 2013 15:04 ZenithM wrote: Show nested quote + On May 10 2013 15:01 Rabiator wrote: On May 10 2013 14:41 Malkavian183 wrote: I liked IdrA's beheaviour because I think he was the only player with balls to say what he thinks. Saying what you think does not have to be done in the way in which IdrA does it. This is just an excuse for wanting drama ... Plus we don't care if all he thinks is pretty much bullshit. Like, Byun is a trash player, really? I'd like smarter players to say what they think if possible. Saying what you think is a GOOD THING, but doing it like IdrA is doing it like a six-year-old on a tantrum and that doesnt work for a grown up. On May 10 2013 15:05 ryzorzen wrote: Show nested quote + On May 10 2013 15:04 Za7oX wrote: On May 10 2013 14:38 Lobotomist wrote: So he was let go because of bad attitude, not lack of results?!? Machine is still there... amazing what a good attitude can do to a career Maybe Machine does other stuff now "in the bowels of EG" to make it work? No one of us has EG's work schedule. | ||
Graphix
United States208 Posts
May 10 2013 06:09 GMT
#2305
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F1rstAssau1t
1341 Posts
May 10 2013 06:09 GMT
#2306
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VasHeR
166 Posts
May 10 2013 06:09 GMT
#2307
On May 10 2013 15:06 Caihead wrote: Show nested quote + On May 10 2013 15:03 m0ck wrote: On May 10 2013 15:01 Caihead wrote: Here's hoping this makes Idra go through the same transformation we saw from Naniwa. Wishful thinking I know. So he has to apologize on twitter every time he balance whines and rage-quits? He has to train hard, ditch his "dgaf" bad boy attitude, and make it to the finals of a major tournament while being manner and respectable. And he has to drone rush Nestea | ||
ninazerg
United States7291 Posts
May 10 2013 06:09 GMT
#2308
On May 10 2013 15:07 dashpar wrote: Show nested quote + On May 10 2013 14:54 dashpar wrote: Tarababcock give me a break... She doesn't play because she likes it. She plays for the little money in it she see's. Plus she's practically a porn actor. When she streams she has way to many ads and she makes sure you can see right down her dress. Ms Spyte is good and she has class! Plus she can draw too! Have you seen her Zerg? It's awesome! What can tarababcock do? You kidding me? TaraBabcock is a supermodel gamer, and it's clear you're just hating on her for her looks. EG should hire her as soon as possible. She can't play dude....She's platnium. Get real... And she doesn't stream very much. Ms. Spyte has got potential. She just a little more playing time and some good mentors and then she'll be kicking their butts! TaraBabcock would destroy Ms. Spyte. I bet 100 dollars* on it. *zimbabwe dollars | ||
duoform
Spain5180 Posts
May 10 2013 06:10 GMT
#2309
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SCST
Mexico1609 Posts
May 10 2013 06:10 GMT
#2310
On May 10 2013 15:03 RoboSnail wrote: Show nested quote + On May 10 2013 14:58 SCST wrote: On May 10 2013 14:51 RoboSnail wrote: On May 10 2013 14:46 vesicular wrote: On May 10 2013 14:39 tredogz wrote: Alex, I am a boss, I know what stress and Emotions does to those we work with. I know they get the better of you. I am sry you made rash decisions. You will regret this for years and years. Idra is more important to eSports than you know, he IS eSports. That's interesting because I also own a business with a staff, and I would have fired Idra a long time ago. The most important part of running a business is to know when to cut your losses. Idra became a liability (I would say this actually happened with his comments about David Kim). There will always be other players, new rising stars, etc. It's simply not worth it to keep someone with Idra's mind state on a team. He can be replaced. In fact, that's something everyone should learn, you can always be replaced. If idra worked for you and you fired him in this hypothetical situation you would lose thousands of fans and gain what? How is that good business? If you really believe EG will gain respect for this you are a fool. You overestimate the power of Idra's "fan base'. I am one of Idra's "typical" fans, which constitutes the majority of his viewership, not those trolls in his chat-room or die-hard, obsessed fans. What makes me a typical fan is that I was never invested in Idra emotionally or personally, but I still cheered for at all of his matchups. Most of us are done with Idra. I'm sorry to break the news, but when you call all of the casual viewers - the majority of your fan base, a "bunch of fucks" you tend to lose guys like us. Why do you make stuff up and pretend to put your self in the shoes of an Idra fan to make a point? That's just low. Additionally judging from your previous posts I think its safe to say you were never a fan. So what you're saying is that for someone like me - someone who is o.k. with Idra getting fired and NOT o.k. with being called a "fuck" and a dumbass sheep - that it must be "impossible" for me to have been cheering for Idra during his matchups? That's one hell of an assertion mister! Shame on you! Loling quite a bit now. | ||
MrMedic
Canada452 Posts
May 10 2013 06:11 GMT
#2311
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Lokerek
United States441 Posts
May 10 2013 06:11 GMT
#2312
On May 10 2013 15:07 Talin wrote: Recruit one of the most talented and THE hardest working foreign player that ever played the game. Enable and encourage the worst of his habits to make your (irrelevant at the time) SC2 division hyper popular in the next 1-2 years by deliberately building up and feeding off the negativity in his image, even when it was obvious it was destroying his best qualities as a player. Then, when you realize you don't need him anymore, fire him for saying something that is genuinely true and not really offensive at all. Well color me surprised. Here come the fanboys... I hate Naniwa but to say Idra is hardest working player is a joke and insult to what Naniwa and other foreigner show. I'd say EG was way too lenient and should have done it earlier. Forgot about talented part. His success was mostly based on mechanics since the 14p 15h build he did was so predictable it was called Idra Build for a reason. | ||
Heavenfallz
Australia73 Posts
May 10 2013 06:11 GMT
#2313
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
May 10 2013 06:11 GMT
#2314
On May 10 2013 15:07 dashpar wrote: Show nested quote + On May 10 2013 14:54 dashpar wrote: Tarababcock give me a break... She doesn't play because she likes it. She plays for the little money in it she see's. Plus she's practically a porn actor. When she streams she has way to many ads and she makes sure you can see right down her dress. Ms Spyte is good and she has class! Plus she can draw too! Have you seen her Zerg? It's awesome! What can tarababcock do? You kidding me? TaraBabcock is a supermodel gamer, and it's clear you're just hating on her for her looks. EG should hire her as soon as possible. She can't play dude....She's platnium. Get real... And she doesn't stream very much. Ms. Spyte has got potential. She just a little more playing time and some good mentors and then she'll be kicking their butts! Everyone who is not grandmaster confirmed no-gamer. Get real man. There are people out there who are not good and still breath that game and try their best. Stop being an ignorant idiot. Just because its not her real business, doesn't mean she's not legit. | ||
dadde
Italy314 Posts
May 10 2013 06:11 GMT
#2315
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ixi.genocide
United States981 Posts
May 10 2013 06:12 GMT
#2316
On May 10 2013 14:58 RoboSnail wrote: Show nested quote + On May 10 2013 14:54 vesicular wrote: On May 10 2013 14:51 RoboSnail wrote: On May 10 2013 14:46 vesicular wrote: On May 10 2013 14:39 tredogz wrote: Alex, I am a boss, I know what stress and Emotions does to those we work with. I know they get the better of you. I am sry you made rash decisions. You will regret this for years and years. Idra is more important to eSports than you know, he IS eSports. That's interesting because I also own a business with a staff, and I would have fired Idra a long time ago. The most important part of running a business is to know when to cut your losses. Idra became a liability (I would say this actually happened with his comments about David Kim). There will always be other players, new rising stars, etc. It's simply not worth it to keep someone with Idra's mind state on a team. He can be replaced. In fact, that's something everyone should learn, you can always be replaced. If idra worked for you and you fired him in this hypothetical situation you would lose thousands of fans and gain what? How is that good business? If you really believe EG will gain respect for this you are a fool. Please tell me where I said anything about respect. This was a business decision. From a business perspective damn right it was a good move. How is having less exposure/traffic a good business decision? I won't say whether I agree or disagree with EG's decision to let IdrA go but the exposure/traffic has to meet a very specific value to be worthwhile ie "a good business decision". Lets say that IdrA made 8.5k per month in total from his contract with EG. that means that the Traffic/Exposure that he gives to EG has to either be greater than 8.5k or mitigate a fair amount of that 8.5k and have a high rate of future returns (still making a profit off of his image). | ||
ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
May 10 2013 06:12 GMT
#2317
On May 10 2013 15:07 Talin wrote: Recruit one of the most talented and THE hardest working foreign player that ever played the game. Enable and encourage the worst of his habits to make your (irrelevant at the time) SC2 division hyper popular in the next 1-2 years by deliberately building up and feeding off the negativity in his image, even when it was obvious it was destroying his best qualities as a player. Then, when you realize you don't need him anymore, fire him for saying something that is genuinely true and not really offensive at all. Well color me surprised. not to take anything off of idra's work ethic cuz he seemed to do decent but I don't think he was THE hardest working foreign player... just had to look at Kas for that, always had easily over 2000 games every ladder season | ||
DisillusionedAcronym
190 Posts
May 10 2013 06:12 GMT
#2318
On May 10 2013 07:16 fartosis77 wrote: no gg? ![]() i should not have found this funny, in light of the situation. i may have lawled, though. T.T | ||
Swords
6038 Posts
May 10 2013 06:13 GMT
#2319
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ninazerg
United States7291 Posts
May 10 2013 06:13 GMT
#2320
On May 10 2013 15:11 Type|NarutO wrote: Show nested quote + On May 10 2013 15:07 dashpar wrote: On May 10 2013 14:54 dashpar wrote: Tarababcock give me a break... She doesn't play because she likes it. She plays for the little money in it she see's. Plus she's practically a porn actor. When she streams she has way to many ads and she makes sure you can see right down her dress. Ms Spyte is good and she has class! Plus she can draw too! Have you seen her Zerg? It's awesome! What can tarababcock do? You kidding me? TaraBabcock is a supermodel gamer, and it's clear you're just hating on her for her looks. EG should hire her as soon as possible. She can't play dude....She's platnium. Get real... And she doesn't stream very much. Ms. Spyte has got potential. She just a little more playing time and some good mentors and then she'll be kicking their butts! Everyone who is not grandmaster confirmed no-gamer. Get real man. There are people out there who are not good and still breath that game and try their best. Stop being an ignorant idiot. Just because its not her real business, doesn't mean she's not legit. I agree, EG should be talking to TaraBabcock about joining the roster right now. I'd actually be surprised if they aren't. | ||
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