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-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
May 10 2013 06:14 GMT
#2321
My respect for EG just went 5x. Enough said.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 06:15:20
May 10 2013 06:14 GMT
#2322
On May 10 2013 15:12 ROOTFayth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 15:07 Talin wrote:
Recruit one of the most talented and THE hardest working foreign player that ever played the game. Enable and encourage the worst of his habits to make your (irrelevant at the time) SC2 division hyper popular in the next 1-2 years by deliberately building up and feeding off the negativity in his image, even when it was obvious it was destroying his best qualities as a player.

Then, when you realize you don't need him anymore, fire him for saying something that is genuinely true and not really offensive at all.

Well color me surprised.

not to take anything off of idra's work ethic cuz he seemed to do decent but I don't think he was THE hardest working foreign player... just had to look at Kas for that, always had easily over 2000 games every ladder season


I was talking 2009-2010 here, not sure Kas was even active back then (could be wrong though).

During his time on CJ and immediately before EG I'm pretty sure Idra was the hardest working western player. That is the player they signed at the time.
dashpar
Profile Joined May 2012
United States20 Posts
May 10 2013 06:15 GMT
#2323
On May 10 2013 15:09 ninazerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 15:07 dashpar wrote:

On May 10 2013 14:54 dashpar wrote:
Tarababcock give me a break... She doesn't play because she likes it. She plays for the little money in it she see's. Plus she's practically a porn actor. When she streams she has way to many ads and she makes sure you can see right down her dress. Ms Spyte is good and she has class! Plus she can draw too! Have you seen her Zerg? It's awesome! What can tarababcock do?


You kidding me? TaraBabcock is a supermodel gamer, and it's clear you're just hating on her for her looks. EG should hire her as soon as possible.


She can't play dude....She's platnium. Get real... And she doesn't stream very much. Ms. Spyte has got potential. She just a little more playing time and some good mentors and then she'll be kicking their butts!


TaraBabcock would destroy Ms. Spyte. I bet 100 dollars* on it.

*zimbabwe dollars


Oh yeah Zimbabwe dollars... That's not putting your money where your mouth is. Tarababcock is a lair too.
She says:" Q: PORN OR NUDES? A: Nope, not of myself anyway! I'm a non-nude professional model."
Source http://www.twitch.tv/tarababcock/c/2218544

However, when you do a search on images of tarababcock Tara Images

Looks like a lot of porn there! That's the last type of personality EG needs right now. And you only like her because she's hot.. Well Mr. I will bet you 100 American dollars that Tarababcock boobs are fake!
SCST
Profile Joined November 2011
Mexico1609 Posts
May 10 2013 06:16 GMT
#2324
On May 10 2013 15:07 Talin wrote:
Recruit one of the most talented and THE hardest working foreign player that ever played the game. Enable and encourage the worst of his habits to make your (irrelevant at the time) SC2 division hyper popular in the next 1-2 years by deliberately building up and feeding off the negativity in his image, even when it was obvious it was destroying his best qualities as a player.

Then, when you realize you don't need him anymore, fire him for saying something that is genuinely true and not really offensive at all.

Well color me surprised.


A lot of juicy assertions there.

- "Idra is THE hardest working foreign player" - that's total speculation.

- "Enable and encourage the worst of his habits to make your [team] popular" - total speculation. No evidence of this.

- "Deliberately building up and feeding off the negativity in his image" - wow coincidence? Another total speculation.


Man there wasn't a single word of you entire post that wasn't total speculation on what went down between EG and Idra. Lols
"The weak cannot forgive. Forgiveness is an attribute of the strong." - Gandhi
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
May 10 2013 06:16 GMT
#2325
ouch, wasn't expecting this however his games especially game #1 against Polt and that comment in his fanclub broke were the last straw and he got what was coming. Best of luck to him and hope he can fix his mindset!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Magerquark
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany21 Posts
May 10 2013 06:17 GMT
#2326
On May 10 2013 15:11 dadde wrote:
Azubu.IdrA incoming


More like Alliance.Idra Would be nice to see him partner up with someone who has the same healthy mindset. This way people who love to see drama and flaming/ insulting all day every day can cheer for the same team and spend their money for the same merchandise
Take us into orbit, Mr. Malmsteen. We've seen enough
sekritzzz
Profile Joined December 2010
1515 Posts
May 10 2013 06:17 GMT
#2327
On May 10 2013 15:11 Lokerek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 15:07 Talin wrote:
Recruit one of the most talented and THE hardest working foreign player that ever played the game. Enable and encourage the worst of his habits to make your (irrelevant at the time) SC2 division hyper popular in the next 1-2 years by deliberately building up and feeding off the negativity in his image, even when it was obvious it was destroying his best qualities as a player.

Then, when you realize you don't need him anymore, fire him for saying something that is genuinely true and not really offensive at all.

Well color me surprised.



Here come the fanboys...
I hate Naniwa but to say Idra is hardest working player is a joke and insult to what Naniwa and other foreigner show.
I'd say EG was way too lenient and should have done it earlier.

Forgot about talented part. His success was mostly based on mechanics since the 14p 15h build he did was so predictable it was called Idra Build for a reason.

Here come the goldfish......

Some people have memories longer than 1 year you know. Idra used to be one of the most hardworking people. I actually dislike idra's personality and think he balances whines too much for his race but what he stated there is absolutely true and ruined a large part of the western SC2 scene for me. People aren't paid to be good, they are paid to be entertainers because that's exactly what most of the community seeks. As sad as that is, that is how the Sc2 community is.
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
May 10 2013 06:17 GMT
#2328
It sounded like Idra's (second) comment that received so much hype was partial sarcasm. I suppose most people find it greatly offensive. I'm not a fuck ; (.
Anyway, while it's weird to see Idra off EG, it may be a nice refresher for Idra and EG.

Also, at the quite off-topic discussion of salaries and what is considered "wealthy"... You might actually be retarded if you think $100,000 is not a lot of money. While $1,000,000 is significantly more, both are more than sufficient to live a nice lifestyle. In fact, being able to afford San Francisco basically makes you wealthy. You are above the 90th percentile with a 6 digit (US $) salary, so, that's pretty nice, relatively speaking.

And lastly, why do people watch Idra's stream? Because he's entertaining. I like seeing him play and I get a little bit of a kick out of his attitude towards others and the game. Obviously, when he commentates, that's nice too since everyone likes pro-gamer commentary. He has a reputation and a persona which people enjoy. It's pretty clear, isn't it?
the_lay
Profile Joined April 2013
Latvia3 Posts
May 10 2013 06:17 GMT
#2329
Don't be sad about IdrA leaving EG, he'll get something like Streisand effect and his stream will peak more viewers than ever.

Naniwa (Alliance) needs to sign him!
Ookm
Profile Joined November 2007
Bolivia18 Posts
May 10 2013 06:18 GMT
#2330
lol, finally.

I can be a fan of EG now.
"I didn't choose the career, the career chose me" LYH
ellirc
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3286 Posts
May 10 2013 06:18 GMT
#2331
About fucking time...
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
May 10 2013 06:18 GMT
#2332
On May 10 2013 15:15 dashpar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 15:09 ninazerg wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:07 dashpar wrote:

On May 10 2013 14:54 dashpar wrote:
Tarababcock give me a break... She doesn't play because she likes it. She plays for the little money in it she see's. Plus she's practically a porn actor. When she streams she has way to many ads and she makes sure you can see right down her dress. Ms Spyte is good and she has class! Plus she can draw too! Have you seen her Zerg? It's awesome! What can tarababcock do?


You kidding me? TaraBabcock is a supermodel gamer, and it's clear you're just hating on her for her looks. EG should hire her as soon as possible.


She can't play dude....She's platnium. Get real... And she doesn't stream very much. Ms. Spyte has got potential. She just a little more playing time and some good mentors and then she'll be kicking their butts!


TaraBabcock would destroy Ms. Spyte. I bet 100 dollars* on it.

*zimbabwe dollars


Oh yeah Zimbabwe dollars... That's not putting your money where your mouth is. Tarababcock is a lair too.
She says:" Q: PORN OR NUDES? A: Nope, not of myself anyway! I'm a non-nude professional model."
Source http://www.twitch.tv/tarababcock/c/2218544

However, when you do a search on images of tarababcock Tara Images

Looks like a lot of porn there! That's the last type of personality EG needs right now. And you only like her because she's hot.. Well Mr. I will bet you 100 American dollars that Tarababcock boobs are fake!


You must not look at the same things as me. I see nothing there that actually shows her nude. Almost naked does not equal naked. And what does her having fake boobs or not have to do anything with whether she shows them?
umade
Profile Joined September 2011
Sweden172 Posts
May 10 2013 06:18 GMT
#2333
Naniwa and IdrA to team up in Alliance
Awesomeness
achan1058
Profile Joined February 2012
1091 Posts
May 10 2013 06:18 GMT
#2334
On May 10 2013 15:17 Magerquark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 15:11 dadde wrote:
Azubu.IdrA incoming


More like Alliance.Idra Would be nice to see him partner up with someone who has the same healthy mindset. This way people who love to see drama and flaming/ insulting all day every day can cheer for the same team and spend their money for the same merchandise

No, just no. Naniwa at least has results, and he might get better if they give him proper coaching. Idra is done.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
May 10 2013 06:19 GMT
#2335
On May 10 2013 15:14 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 15:12 ROOTFayth wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:07 Talin wrote:
Recruit one of the most talented and THE hardest working foreign player that ever played the game. Enable and encourage the worst of his habits to make your (irrelevant at the time) SC2 division hyper popular in the next 1-2 years by deliberately building up and feeding off the negativity in his image, even when it was obvious it was destroying his best qualities as a player.

Then, when you realize you don't need him anymore, fire him for saying something that is genuinely true and not really offensive at all.

Well color me surprised.

not to take anything off of idra's work ethic cuz he seemed to do decent but I don't think he was THE hardest working foreign player... just had to look at Kas for that, always had easily over 2000 games every ladder season


I was talking 2009-2010 here, not sure Kas was even active back then (could be wrong though).

During his time on CJ and immediately before EG I'm pretty sure Idra was the hardest working western player. That is the player they signed at the time.


IdrA was hard working, no one that followed broodwar is going to deny it, but I still argue 'hardest' working person. Mondragon when in preperation for tournaments was very hard working, but he was very busy so you still got a point. White-rA was playing his ass off when he got A+ on iccup, Draco and SunCow were playing sick amounts of games.

There were plenty of hard-working players that are gifted. I hold no grudge against IdrA and I certainly don't want to judge if that was a good or bad business decision but he should have known that constantly insulting the community which is reason why he earns money to begin with cannot be a good idea.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
May 10 2013 06:19 GMT
#2336
On May 10 2013 15:17 Magerquark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 15:11 dadde wrote:
Azubu.IdrA incoming


More like Alliance.Idra Would be nice to see him partner up with someone who has the same healthy mindset. This way people who love to see drama and flaming/ insulting all day every day can cheer for the same team and spend their money for the same merchandise

More like College.Idra
SCST
Profile Joined November 2011
Mexico1609 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 06:22:25
May 10 2013 06:19 GMT
#2337
On May 10 2013 15:17 sekritzzz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 15:11 Lokerek wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:07 Talin wrote:
Recruit one of the most talented and THE hardest working foreign player that ever played the game. Enable and encourage the worst of his habits to make your (irrelevant at the time) SC2 division hyper popular in the next 1-2 years by deliberately building up and feeding off the negativity in his image, even when it was obvious it was destroying his best qualities as a player.

Then, when you realize you don't need him anymore, fire him for saying something that is genuinely true and not really offensive at all.

Well color me surprised.



Here come the fanboys...
I hate Naniwa but to say Idra is hardest working player is a joke and insult to what Naniwa and other foreigner show.
I'd say EG was way too lenient and should have done it earlier.

Forgot about talented part. His success was mostly based on mechanics since the 14p 15h build he did was so predictable it was called Idra Build for a reason.

Here come the goldfish......

Some people have memories longer than 1 year you know. Idra used to be one of the most hardworking people. I actually dislike idra's personality and think he balances whines too much for his race but what he stated there is absolutely true and ruined a large part of the western SC2 scene for me. People aren't paid to be good, they are paid to be entertainers because that's exactly what most of the community seeks. As sad as that is, that is how the Sc2 community is.


Lmao since when do we know that goldfish have memories less than 1 year? Do you study or have extensive knowledge of goldfishes? LOLing hard at your choice of an introduction.

And why the hell would you assume that anyone would understand that analogy? lol
"The weak cannot forgive. Forgiveness is an attribute of the strong." - Gandhi
FoxShine
Profile Joined January 2012
United States156 Posts
May 10 2013 06:21 GMT
#2338
On May 10 2013 13:22 RoboSnail wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 13:13 SCST wrote:
On May 10 2013 12:57 theLeopard wrote:
On May 10 2013 12:54 hillman wrote:
I agree with their reasons for releasing him...In fact I voiced this same feeling on his fan forum about 2 weeks ago and got temp. banned for it! But I do hope he finds his love of the game, or finds some joy in something else, if you are constantly unhappy it usually means that you have some imbalance in your life. There is no reason for someone as intelligent and mechanically practiced as Idra not to get get better results AND be happy to be paid to play professional Starcraft. Hopefully he will re-prioritize and find his path.

I hate this ****.
You're the person IdrA was talking to and I'm finished with this thread and discussion you're all a bunch of fucks.

User was temp banned for this post.


No doubt you're one of the elusive, typical Idra fans these days. Coincidence? Don't let the door hit ya on the way out . . .


Funny he got banned for speaking the truth. Just like idra for pointing out how much of a tool all you haters are who watch his stream just to talk shit and troll him while unintentionally making him rich hahahaha.



Whether or not what he said was 'way out of line'...he was replying directly to the person who accused him of "crying on the inside" and junk. It seems to me that he was getting butt hurt in general at the people hate mongering in that thread, like he always has in the past. I know a good portion of the community has had its problems with Idra, but to take what he said literally like he is speaking to ALL of his fans is retarded.

Maybe it's just me but, when i read that i didn't think he was speaking to me - one of his great fans. He's even been quoted as saying "my fans are fucking awesome" (his REAL fans). That doesn't sound like someone who hates his whole fan base. He has shown appreciation. Get it right. He used to be paid for his bad boy attitude which is trash talking people. Hence thats why, with a bunch of anger mixed in, he said that...derp.

I dno, I know I've been posting in this thread periodically, and I'm not really an active TL poster, but this whole situation really bothers me. All the kids love to hate on idra cuz all they see is an asshole. Not an extremely talented kid that grew into a troubled man. To be a young person with an anger problem, bad boy persona, and a boatload of talent; it isn't all that surprising how it spiraled and effected his ability to succeed. It deeply saddens me



We do what we must, because we can
Eboceixa
Profile Joined June 2011
Belgium60 Posts
May 10 2013 06:21 GMT
#2339
Probably good for EG?
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
May 10 2013 06:22 GMT
#2340
On May 10 2013 15:19 Type|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 15:14 Talin wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:12 ROOTFayth wrote:
On May 10 2013 15:07 Talin wrote:
Recruit one of the most talented and THE hardest working foreign player that ever played the game. Enable and encourage the worst of his habits to make your (irrelevant at the time) SC2 division hyper popular in the next 1-2 years by deliberately building up and feeding off the negativity in his image, even when it was obvious it was destroying his best qualities as a player.

Then, when you realize you don't need him anymore, fire him for saying something that is genuinely true and not really offensive at all.

Well color me surprised.

not to take anything off of idra's work ethic cuz he seemed to do decent but I don't think he was THE hardest working foreign player... just had to look at Kas for that, always had easily over 2000 games every ladder season


I was talking 2009-2010 here, not sure Kas was even active back then (could be wrong though).

During his time on CJ and immediately before EG I'm pretty sure Idra was the hardest working western player. That is the player they signed at the time.


IdrA was hard working, no one that followed broodwar is going to deny it, but I still argue 'hardest' working person. Mondragon when in preperation for tournaments was very hard working, but he was very busy so you still got a point. White-rA was playing his ass off when he got A+ on iccup, Draco and SunCow were playing sick amounts of games.

There were plenty of hard-working players that are gifted. I hold no grudge against IdrA and I certainly don't want to judge if that was a good or bad business decision but he should have known that constantly insulting the community which is reason why he earns money to begin with cannot be a good idea.


Okay, I'll add "one of" then, general point still remains. Though I'm pretty sure the in-house training regime of a genuine pro team is more rigorous and consistent over a longer period of time than the kind of practice foreigners had during late BW/SC2 Beta.
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