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Evil Geniuses Releases Greg "IdrA" Fields - Page 115

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Rabiator
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany3948 Posts
May 10 2013 06:01 GMT
#2281
On May 10 2013 14:41 Malkavian183 wrote:

I liked IdrA's beheaviour because I think he was the only player with balls to say what he thinks.

Saying what you think does not have to be done in the way in which IdrA does it. This is just an excuse for wanting drama ...
If you cant say what you're meaning, you can never mean what you're saying.
Nyarly
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1030 Posts
May 10 2013 06:02 GMT
#2282
This made me sad
TheMag
Profile Joined April 2011
Romania43 Posts
May 10 2013 06:02 GMT
#2283
I think they wanted to have an excuse to let him go cuz even if he had no results he was the main figure of EG and i think they want to build a new figure. So many people new people in sc2 that don t care about ex legends like jaedong and his kind and greg was by faar the biggest name.
up up
justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
May 10 2013 06:02 GMT
#2284
On May 10 2013 15:01 Rabiator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 14:41 Malkavian183 wrote:

I liked IdrA's beheaviour because I think he was the only player with balls to say what he thinks.

Saying what you think does not have to be done in the way in which IdrA does it. This is just an excuse for wanting drama ...


Some people actually have positive outlooks.
Never make a hydralisk.
RoboSnail
Profile Joined June 2010
United States59 Posts
May 10 2013 06:03 GMT
#2285
On May 10 2013 14:58 SCST wrote:
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On May 10 2013 14:51 RoboSnail wrote:
On May 10 2013 14:46 vesicular wrote:
On May 10 2013 14:39 tredogz wrote:
Alex, I am a boss, I know what stress and Emotions does to those we work with. I know they get the better of you. I am sry you made rash decisions. You will regret this for years and years. Idra is more important to eSports than you know, he IS eSports.


That's interesting because I also own a business with a staff, and I would have fired Idra a long time ago. The most important part of running a business is to know when to cut your losses. Idra became a liability (I would say this actually happened with his comments about David Kim).

There will always be other players, new rising stars, etc. It's simply not worth it to keep someone with Idra's mind state on a team. He can be replaced.

In fact, that's something everyone should learn, you can always be replaced.


If idra worked for you and you fired him in this hypothetical situation you would lose thousands of fans and gain what? How is that good business? If you really believe EG will gain respect for this you are a fool.


You overestimate the power of Idra's "fan base'. I am one of Idra's "typical" fans, which constitutes the majority of his viewership, not those trolls in his chat-room or die-hard, obsessed fans. What makes me a typical fan is that I was never invested in Idra emotionally or personally, but I still cheered for at all of his matchups.

Most of us are done with Idra. I'm sorry to break the news, but when you call all of the casual viewers - the majority of your fan base, a "bunch of fucks" you tend to lose guys like us.



Why do you make stuff up and pretend to put your self in the shoes of an Idra fan to make a point? That's just low. Additionally judging from your previous posts I think its safe to say you were never a fan.
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
May 10 2013 06:03 GMT
#2286
On May 10 2013 15:01 Caihead wrote:
Here's hoping this makes Idra go through the same transformation we saw from Naniwa.

Wishful thinking I know.

So he has to apologize on twitter every time he balance whines and rage-quits?
weeA
Profile Joined October 2010
India442 Posts
May 10 2013 06:04 GMT
#2287
Hope he finds a team soon...
This kinda sucks
Lim Yo Hwan I love U
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
May 10 2013 06:04 GMT
#2288
On May 10 2013 14:38 Lobotomist wrote:
So he was let go because of bad attitude, not lack of results?!?

Machine is still there...
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
May 10 2013 06:04 GMT
#2289
On May 10 2013 15:01 Rabiator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 14:41 Malkavian183 wrote:

I liked IdrA's beheaviour because I think he was the only player with balls to say what he thinks.

Saying what you think does not have to be done in the way in which IdrA does it. This is just an excuse for wanting drama ...

Plus we don't care if all he thinks is pretty much bullshit. Like, Byun is a trash player, really?
I'd like smarter players to say what they think if possible.
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
May 10 2013 06:04 GMT
#2290
On May 10 2013 15:02 justinpal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 15:01 Rabiator wrote:
On May 10 2013 14:41 Malkavian183 wrote:

I liked IdrA's beheaviour because I think he was the only player with balls to say what he thinks.

Saying what you think does not have to be done in the way in which IdrA does it. This is just an excuse for wanting drama ...


Some people actually have positive outlooks.

And looking to Idra's comments are not the place to find them. There's a difference between saying what you think and just being a prick.
Refer to my post.
ailouros
Profile Joined August 2008
United States193 Posts
May 10 2013 06:04 GMT
#2291
Makes me a little sad. I don't think he likes the game anymore but still wanted to play at the same time.
ryzorzen
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada9 Posts
May 10 2013 06:05 GMT
#2292
On May 10 2013 15:04 Za7oX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 14:38 Lobotomist wrote:
So he was let go because of bad attitude, not lack of results?!?

Machine is still there...


amazing what a good attitude can do to a career
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
May 10 2013 06:06 GMT
#2293
On May 10 2013 14:38 Lobotomist wrote:
So he was let go because of bad attitude, not lack of results?!?

There would only be like 4 foreigners (and 30 koreans) on a team if people were only kept for results.
Refer to my post.
vesicular
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1310 Posts
May 10 2013 06:06 GMT
#2294
On May 10 2013 14:58 RoboSnail wrote:
How is having less exposure/traffic a good business decision?


Because the opportunity cost of keeping "exposure/traffic" is for something worse to happen down the road. It takes years to build trust, but seconds to break it. Note, I'm not just talking about fans here.

You're also assuming that losing exposure/traffic is somehow permanent. Part of the business decisions you make are sometimes about short term loses for long term gains. I'm not convinced there will be much of the former however.
STX Fighting!
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
May 10 2013 06:06 GMT
#2295
On May 10 2013 15:03 m0ck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 15:01 Caihead wrote:
Here's hoping this makes Idra go through the same transformation we saw from Naniwa.

Wishful thinking I know.

So he has to apologize on twitter every time he balance whines and rage-quits?


He has to train hard, ditch his "dgaf" bad boy attitude, and make it to the finals of a major tournament while being manner and respectable.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
SCST
Profile Joined November 2011
Mexico1609 Posts
May 10 2013 06:06 GMT
#2296
On May 10 2013 15:01 Jrocker152 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 14:45 Whatson wrote:
On May 10 2013 14:39 tredogz wrote:
Alex, I am a boss, I know what stress and Emotions does to those we work with. I know they get the better of you. I am sry you made rash decisions. You will regret this for years and years. Idra is more important to eSports than you know, he IS eSports.

LOLOLOLOL
IdrA is eSports? Joke of the year, hands down.
Also, I don't think as a "boss" you would have such bad grammatical errors.

Grammar is not required to start up a multi- million dollar business, that's what secretaries are for. I live in Indian wells, some folks here can't spel beter then the intrnet peepul but they stil driv a furarri son. Sure, it's embarrassing until they tell you the story of how they overcame severe dyslexia.

Yeah. Shut up. I take offense because MY BOSS can't spell an he is one of the coolest people I've met. He's not the dyslexic and he drives a luxury truck but he just felt spelling was unnecessary until it was kind of too late.


You can defend his spelling all you like, but you can't defend the hiLOLarity of what he actually said. That's impossible. I'm actually still laughing from it even now.
"The weak cannot forgive. Forgiveness is an attribute of the strong." - Gandhi
Lokerek
Profile Joined December 2011
United States441 Posts
May 10 2013 06:06 GMT
#2297
On May 10 2013 15:00 ErrantKnight wrote:
This can't be the real reason, Idra has always been BM and that never was problem, why release him now ?



Telling people you are being paid to s*** on community? Think what that implies about EG. That's an insult from Idra.
achan1058
Profile Joined February 2012
1091 Posts
May 10 2013 06:06 GMT
#2298
On May 10 2013 15:00 ErrantKnight wrote:
This can't be the real reason, Idra has always been BM and that never was problem, why release him now ?

Probably the straw that broke the camel's back. Nothing more, nothing less.
AceGeneral
Profile Joined September 2011
United States16 Posts
May 10 2013 06:06 GMT
#2299
On May 10 2013 14:53 MrCon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 14:27 Toons wrote:
On May 10 2013 14:26 MrCon wrote:
Idra was self destructing for some time now. His bo7 showmatch when he gg'ed 2 times when seeing a proxy rax then just 6 pooled twice was a start (it started before, but before it was just antics and could be funny). After that he just did that every game, pure self destruction, or like he wants to be a cool guy that don't give a fuck, but when you overdo it you're not cool anymore, you are a guy with a problem and a weirdo.
Everyone who knows him say he's a smart guy, I don't know, perhaps he's an addict and hide in the bathroom to do coke or amphetamine, he's just not acting normal anymore.
I guess EG warned him quite a few times already, this time was too much they could tolerate.


Lol, do you honestly believe he did that for any other reason, than to get eyes onto him (and by association, EG and its sponsors?)

But if you do that for attention, you don't overdo it. 2 years ago his antics were entertaining and rare, now if he played you know that he'd do something dumb and it's all the time so people don't even bother talking about it. He got the attention, now it's time to do something with it. Well it was time, he had the time, now it's too late. Or perhaps he's doing that because he can't accept that he suck at this game so he diverts the attention of people by doing "coups".
(pure speculation :D)

And despite that he's a quasi celebrity, I'd argue that it'll be pretty hard for any team to recruit him as a player. If you recruit him basically you say "I know he suck as a player and bring nothing to our team, but you'll watch us anyway so we'll have him". A team could recruit him as a janitor, or an accountant, or a player, it would make no difference for their "sportive" strength. His only value is marketing wise, which puts him in a precarious position as a player.


I do have to say however, idra is for sure, "better" than plenty of players on other teams. I can't say he has had good results, or that he is an amazing player. I think though, however it would be difficult to argue that he is horrible or that he is valueless as a player. I think that for him to continue in esports in a positive way, there will definitely need to be some changes.
If you are not giving your all, then you are wasting your time
dashpar
Profile Joined May 2012
United States20 Posts
May 10 2013 06:07 GMT
#2300

On May 10 2013 14:54 dashpar wrote:
Tarababcock give me a break... She doesn't play because she likes it. She plays for the little money in it she see's. Plus she's practically a porn actor. When she streams she has way to many ads and she makes sure you can see right down her dress. Ms Spyte is good and she has class! Plus she can draw too! Have you seen her Zerg? It's awesome! What can tarababcock do?


You kidding me? TaraBabcock is a supermodel gamer, and it's clear you're just hating on her for her looks. EG should hire her as soon as possible.


She can't play dude....She's platnium. Get real... And she doesn't stream very much. Ms. Spyte has got potential. She just a little more playing time and some good mentors and then she'll be kicking their butts!
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