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http://sc2.j-cg.com/
http://sc2.j-cg.com/news/2
It looks like Japan has started their own league system for intrepid Starcraft 2 players in the country. The format is split into seasons of 6-weeks each and split into three classes of competition that all run concurrently. The league starts on May 6th.
Tournaments will be streamed on http://www.twitch.tv/japanesports
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/gWLEDQQ.png)
The first is the open class, which takes place every Tuesday at 9pm JST in the form of 4-man single-elimination Bo3 tournaments. Each tournament distributes points to its participants based off of placement. 1st place 5 pts, 2nd place 3 pts, 3rd place 2 pts, 4th place 1 pt. Once you get at least 10 league points, you are eligible to participate in the second stage.
![[image loading]](http://sc2.j-cg.com/uploads/fckeditor/contents/uid000001_20130418043240b5fdbbba.png)
The second stage is the master league, which takes place every other Sunday at 9pm JST in the form of 4-man round robin Bo3 tournaments. Similarly to the open league, you receive points based off of placement. 1st place 5 pts, 2nd place 3pts, 3rd place 2 pts, 4th place 1 pt. The top 4 players by point-ranking are eligible to participate in the third stage. For Season 0, entry is limited to players who have reached Master's League or higher on any server, but for future seasons, you will be able to enter based off of your league points you've received in the open class.
![[image loading]](http://sc2.j-cg.com/uploads/fckeditor/contents/uid000001_20130418044315e165fba5.png)
The third stage is the premier league, which also takes place every other Sunday at 9pm JST on the weeks that the master league tournaments are not held. The tournament format is a series of 4-man round robin Bo3 tournaments. Winners of these round robin matches compete in a playoff each season to determine the victor of the season. The victor of each season will get an invite to a LAN finals to take place in January 2014.
![[image loading]](http://sc2.j-cg.com/uploads/fckeditor/uid000005_20130418114531967cbe73.png)
Yellow - Open Class
Green - Master League
Red - Premier League
Striped Boxes - Playoff Matches
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Hmm, interesting. I thought Japan's gambling laws mostly deterred competitive gaming over there - but maybe I was mistaken? Either way, cool to see another region hop in to SC!
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A really surprising change in JP.
I know that JP is hardcore console gaming, PC is very rare there but if SC2 goes big, there might be hope.
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On April 24 2013 01:11 Nithix wrote:
Hmm, interesting. I thought Japan's gambling laws mostly deterred competitive gaming over there - but maybe I was mistaken? Either way, cool to see another region hop in to SC!
Huh? That can't be the case as they have a huge competitive fighting game scene
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good for Japan. I thought theyd never catch up with the rest of the world.
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Excellent news, can't wait to see what comes out of it.
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Excellent news actually, would be awesome to see Japan attend the global SC2 scene.
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Cool. Very happy for Japan!
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Good news ! Hopefully it will be a real good league and japanese players can get some exposure out of this!
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Beautiful. We need more Japanese culture in the SC2 scene 
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Maybe Kuroa will play in it, I was always curious at the lack of well known Japanese players.
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They should invite all the Koreans with GSL wins to help grow their scene, increase their skill level and develop their eco system. They should allow anyone without a realistic chance to sign up, too, so they can model themselves after perfection, MLG.
Is it possible for a NA to choose the Japan region, or are they not playing "make believe"?
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Cool, glad to see everything expanding!
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hooray one step closer to a sports manga based around competitive starcraft
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Any word on a stream? I've been looking for a good Japanese SC stream
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On April 24 2013 01:13 ragz_gt wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 01:11 Nithix wrote:
Hmm, interesting. I thought Japan's gambling laws mostly deterred competitive gaming over there - but maybe I was mistaken? Either way, cool to see another region hop in to SC! Huh? That can't be the case as they have a huge competitive fighting game scene
I've heard the same thing about the gambling laws and that FGC pros in Japan often compete for small amounts of money, or prizes/food/store points.
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Hopefully I'll see more out of Breek and Nemuke now. I'd like to watch if they have streams.
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On April 24 2013 01:39 blagoonga123 wrote:
hooray one step closer to a sports manga based around competitive starcraft
LOL, I need SC2 Manga/Anime, like RIGHT NOW!
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Wow in Japan! Esports making progress! :D
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Good Japan, let the ESPORTS flow through you!
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I still cant believe they dont dominate gaming scene. I always thought of them as of land of computers/technics. I really hope China and Japan can soon surpass Korea in sc2
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On April 24 2013 01:42 Sayle wrote:Any word on a stream? I've been looking for a good Japanese SC stream
On April 24 2013 01:46 Dismay wrote:
Hopefully I'll see more out of Breek and Nemuke now. I'd like to watch if they have streams.
Forgot to include this, but they will be streamed on http://www.twitch.tv/japanesports
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On April 24 2013 01:53 Ettick wrote:
Good Japan, let the ESPORTS flow through you!
Outside of Korea, Japan has pretty much the biggest eSports scene, it's just for fighting games :p
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On April 24 2013 01:54 ZeRoX-45 wrote:I still cant believe they dont dominate gaming scene. I always thought of them as of land of computers/technics. I really hope China and Japan can soon surpass Korea in sc2
Japan are pretty big when it comes to fighting games and China has always had a huge fanbase and playerbase for DotA (and also WarCraft 3). "gaming scene" is in no way, shape or form limited to SC2. 
This is pretty cool news, will definitely try to tune in if it's not inconvenient schedule-wise. Breek and Nemuke used to be pretty good ye? ^^
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On April 24 2013 01:39 blagoonga123 wrote:
hooray one step closer to a sports manga based around competitive starcraft
Hahahaha, that would be awesome.
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Cool to see stuff poppin up in japan
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whoa what sort of skill are we going to expect once the finals come around.
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Wow, nice to see. I wasn't sure if they'd start something for SC2 in Japan after nothing really happened during WoL.
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Whenever I think of Japan in StarCraft I think of that guy who beat Machine at WCG one year with hydras in ZvZ.
Cool to see a tournament pop up.
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If they can make Jap players as good as their fighting game players that would be awesome
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This is really awesome in my opinion.
I have always loved all things Japanese especially their competitive gaming.
I look forward to how strong their SC2 crowd is.
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Awesome stuff! I hope they become international contenders~
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On April 24 2013 01:39 blagoonga123 wrote:
hooray one step closer to a sports manga based around competitive starcraft
Looool I would read the fuck out of that.
"Starcraft Legend Akagi: The Genius Who Hellbat-dropped Into the Darkness".
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On April 24 2013 02:19 ZenithM wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 01:39 blagoonga123 wrote:
hooray one step closer to a sports manga based around competitive starcraft Looool I would read the fuck out of that. "Starcraft Legend Akagi: The Genius Who Hellbat-dropped Into the Darkness".
Does it culminate in a battle where Akagi is drained of blood every time he loses a unit?
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On April 24 2013 01:14 Heathen wrote:
good for Japan. I thought theyd never catch up with the rest of the world.
They're the mecca of gaming in general. I don't think they care much about competitive gaming when they have such a large gaming industry in general.
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On April 24 2013 02:20 scintilliaSD wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 02:19 ZenithM wrote:On April 24 2013 01:39 blagoonga123 wrote:
hooray one step closer to a sports manga based around competitive starcraft Looool I would read the fuck out of that. "Starcraft Legend Akagi: The Genius Who Hellbat-dropped Into the Darkness". Does it culminate in a battle where Akagi is drained of blood every time he loses a unit?
And a big yakuza guy cuts one of his left-hand fingers with a katana every time he loses a set.
Obviously, the climax match is a Bo9.
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I just imagined Initial-D but about sc2.
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On April 24 2013 01:13 ragz_gt wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 01:11 Nithix wrote:
Hmm, interesting. I thought Japan's gambling laws mostly deterred competitive gaming over there - but maybe I was mistaken? Either way, cool to see another region hop in to SC! Huh? That can't be the case as they have a huge competitive fighting game scene
I didnt think it was because of gambling laws but simply because arcade games and home gaming consoles are just way more popular.
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On April 24 2013 01:39 blagoonga123 wrote:
hooray one step closer to a sports manga based around competitive starcraft
I'd watch the shit out of that.
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Always nice to see new blood, especially Asian new blood. Those guys always dominate eSPORTS for some reason.
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Manga is comic books, so u read it.
But anyway I'd read the shit out of that too!
P.S wasn't there a comic about a cheesy terran?
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On April 24 2013 02:26 GreEny K wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 01:14 Heathen wrote:
good for Japan. I thought theyd never catch up with the rest of the world. They're the mecca of gaming in general. I don't think they care much about competitive gaming when they have such a large gaming industry in general.
They are competitive. PC gaming is just not common over there. With a few exceptions (MMOs and such) PC "gaming" in Japan usually means visual novels and porn. Historically the biggest eSports (CS, Quake, BW, WC3, DotA etc) are more often than not PC games and so have had little following in Japan. They do have a thriving arcade scene and so do very well when it comes to fighting games. The Japanese SC2 community probably consists of a small number of hardcores.
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Nice to hear, glad to see Starcraft growing.
Gl JP
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On April 24 2013 02:32 gillon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 01:39 blagoonga123 wrote:
hooray one step closer to a sports manga based around competitive starcraft I'd watch the shit out of that.
You mean read?
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On April 24 2013 02:39 Exarl25 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 02:26 GreEny K wrote:On April 24 2013 01:14 Heathen wrote:
good for Japan. I thought theyd never catch up with the rest of the world. They're the mecca of gaming in general. I don't think they care much about competitive gaming when they have such a large gaming industry in general. They are competitive. PC gaming is just not common over there. With a few exceptions (MMOs and such) PC "gaming" in Japan usually means visual novels and porn. Historically the biggest eSports (CS, Quake, BW, WC3, DotA etc) are more often than not PC games and so have had little following in Japan. They do have a thriving arcade scene and so do very well when it comes to fighting games. The Japanese SC2 community probably consists of a small number of hardcores.
Spot on. Arcades and consoles are the thing there. They're incredible at fighting games.
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On April 24 2013 02:39 Arkanthiel wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 01:50 Ramiz1989 wrote:On April 24 2013 01:39 blagoonga123 wrote:
hooray one step closer to a sports manga based around competitive starcraft LOL, I need SC2 Manga/Anime, like RIGHT NOW! Okay... http://imgur.com/gslaEzN+ Show Spoiler +
lol thank god.
+ Show Spoiler +with the dreads i was worried it was post op kerrigan
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They need more mechas to accept the game though.
Bring back the fucking Warhound and make it fly.
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Is there a prizepool?
Would be nice to know abit about some of the best players in Japan. A guy called whitewhale won the CSN tournament in Japan a few days ago against breek (who was previously on Type Gaming with ReaL), anyone know anything about him?
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On April 24 2013 02:45 ComaDose wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 02:39 Arkanthiel wrote:On April 24 2013 01:50 Ramiz1989 wrote:On April 24 2013 01:39 blagoonga123 wrote:
hooray one step closer to a sports manga based around competitive starcraft LOL, I need SC2 Manga/Anime, like RIGHT NOW! Okay... http://imgur.com/gslaEzN+ Show Spoiler + lol thank god. + Show Spoiler +with the dreads i was worried it was post op kerrigan
That sounds like something Blizzard would do... 
On April 24 2013 02:46 ZenithM wrote:
They need more mechas to accept the game though.
Bring back the fucking Warhound and make it fly.
The Mech-a-tron is back? Or... Thor speed increased to 4, can now launch nukes.
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Just need to put SC2 into arcade cabinets, then it'll thrive!
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Fantastic stuff, really hope to see some Japanese gamers getting into StarCraft!!
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Interesting to see this. I'm not actually sure how good Japanese players are at all. I'd watch it just for curiosity's sake, but I have somewhat low expectations from how little I've seen JP in tournaments.
Also, thanks for the translation and posting the format. I actually think it's a pretty good league. WCS NA/EU should just use the same system ^_~
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On April 24 2013 01:50 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 01:39 blagoonga123 wrote:
hooray one step closer to a sports manga based around competitive starcraft LOL, I need SC2 Manga/Anime, like RIGHT NOW!
Would pay so much money for that o.o
Do they have Street Fighter manga?
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Now Blizzard should also support Japanese ingame.
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Yessss Japanese Starcraft scene.
Hope this does well.
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in japan ,if you say you are a "computer gamer" it means that you play porn games on computers...gaming scene at computers are non existant in japan
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I really hope Crimson plays in this, hes one of my favorite streamers
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On April 24 2013 03:13 PanzerElite wrote:
Now Blizzard should also support Japanese ingame.
japanese voice pack pls
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On April 24 2013 03:16 xgtx wrote:
in japan ,if you say you are a "computer gamer" it means that you play porn games on computers...gaming scene at computers are non existant in japan
Oh come on, its not that bad...
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On April 24 2013 03:16 xgtx wrote:
in japan ,if you say you are a "computer gamer" it means that you play porn games on computers...gaming scene at computers are non existant in japan
Kerrigan/Nova eroge incoming? :3
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On April 24 2013 03:30 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 03:16 xgtx wrote:
in japan ,if you say you are a "computer gamer" it means that you play porn games on computers...gaming scene at computers are non existant in japan Kerrigan/Nova eroge incoming? :3
And Kerrigan uses all of her tentacled buddies. (ﾟｰﾟ)(｡_｡)ｳﾝｳﾝ (*￣o￣*)
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On April 24 2013 02:39 Exarl25 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 02:26 GreEny K wrote:On April 24 2013 01:14 Heathen wrote:
good for Japan. I thought theyd never catch up with the rest of the world. They're the mecca of gaming in general. I don't think they care much about competitive gaming when they have such a large gaming industry in general. They are competitive. PC gaming is just not common over there. With a few exceptions (MMOs and such) PC "gaming" in Japan usually means visual novels and porn. Historically the biggest eSports (CS, Quake, BW, WC3, DotA etc) are more often than not PC games and so have had little following in Japan. They do have a thriving arcade scene and so do very well when it comes to fighting games. The Japanese SC2 community probably consists of a small number of hardcores.
sc-times.net
There is this website which has been running for a long time, and other websites for the Japanese Starcraft scene. Interest has never really been the problem, it's just the fact that its not a sustainable career in Japan.
Even fighting games are not in eSports, so they are typically only competitive in arcades. A professional scene has never been possible, but many have tried over these long years.
This tournament is great news for Japan. If this is successful, hopefully they'll start getting some real money involved. All Japan needs is money. Sustainable careers. You'll see plenty of Japanese progamers at that point.
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Was wondering if Japan would ever get into SC2, this is good news :>
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I've always kept this to myself... I've always wanted Japan to be more into Starcraft 2. I'm so happy to hear this...
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On April 24 2013 01:39 blagoonga123 wrote:
hooray one step closer to a sports manga based around competitive starcraft
Didn't GO become really popular again during the late 90's is because of an Anime/Manga that came out about a kid striving to become a GO player? I heard the GO scene blew up because of that show.
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On April 24 2013 02:30 Pri1230 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 01:13 ragz_gt wrote:On April 24 2013 01:11 Nithix wrote:
Hmm, interesting. I thought Japan's gambling laws mostly deterred competitive gaming over there - but maybe I was mistaken? Either way, cool to see another region hop in to SC! Huh? That can't be the case as they have a huge competitive fighting game scene I didnt think it was because of gambling laws but simply because arcade games and home gaming consoles are just way more popular.
It's much less that competitive gaming is not popular, much more that PC gaming is not that popular for competitive gaming.
for the Japanese, multiplayer gaming is still very much an in person social experience, this is why it's done more in arcades or in public places with handhelds.
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Hope there's a stream. o.O
Japan hwaitinn
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I wonder if Americans can play in this league...
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Maybe MKP can go over there and finally settle that island expo dispute.
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On April 24 2013 04:10 Antisocialmunky wrote:
Maybe MKP can go over there and finally settle that island expo dispute.
Wrong country bro. It's gonna have to be MacSed or Comm.
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On April 24 2013 03:16 xgtx wrote:
in japan ,if you say you are a "computer gamer" it means that you play porn games on computers...gaming scene at computers are non existant in japan
You obviously have no clue what you're talking about.
This is really cool! I hope it will still be functioning by the time I go to Japan next summer, maybe they'll let me enter >.>~
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If Starcraft somehow became big in Japan, that would be amazing.
On April 24 2013 01:39 blagoonga123 wrote:
hooray one step closer to a sports manga based around competitive starcraft
And this would be even more amazing.
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JSL!!! japanese star league! hehehe
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On April 24 2013 04:20 Nuclease wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 04:10 Antisocialmunky wrote:
Maybe MKP can go over there and finally settle that island expo dispute. Wrong country bro. It's gonna have to be MacSed or Comm.
Japan and Korea are in disputes over islands, too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liancourt_Rocks
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Wow cool, I thought Japan only played video-games :O
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On April 24 2013 01:13 ragz_gt wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 01:11 Nithix wrote:
Hmm, interesting. I thought Japan's gambling laws mostly deterred competitive gaming over there - but maybe I was mistaken? Either way, cool to see another region hop in to SC! Huh? That can't be the case as they have a huge competitive fighting game scene
The scene is actually not comparable to western scenes,because most tournaments dont even have prize money.
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KurOa said that he may or may not and that "Crimson probably will".
Japanese StarLeague gogo
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On April 24 2013 01:50 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 01:39 blagoonga123 wrote:
hooray one step closer to a sports manga based around competitive starcraft LOL, I need SC2 Manga/Anime, like RIGHT NOW!
I remember seeing my SK friend reading a sc:bw manga at my old school, so it's definitely out there somewhere.
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More foreign hopes please!
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If japanese players start playing sc2 seriously like their neighbors, it would be gg for koreans
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the more the merrier
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On April 24 2013 02:32 gillon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 01:39 blagoonga123 wrote:
hooray one step closer to a sports manga based around competitive starcraft I'd watch the shit out of that.
or a manga with an alternate starcraft universe where SC2 pros are story characters
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On April 24 2013 03:16 xgtx wrote:
in japan ,if you say you are a "computer gamer" it means that you play porn games on computers...gaming scene at computers are non existant in japan
Where did you pull this thought from? I have never heard of this garbage, and obviously it is wrong because even before this thread there have been tons of computer game tournaments for SC2 and even other computer games, it isn't a massive scene such as KR or EU, but it is still here.
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I'd love to see Japan have a SC2 scene also. Good luck to them!
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On April 24 2013 05:20 Targe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 01:50 Ramiz1989 wrote:On April 24 2013 01:39 blagoonga123 wrote:
hooray one step closer to a sports manga based around competitive starcraft LOL, I need SC2 Manga/Anime, like RIGHT NOW! I remember seeing my SK friend reading a sc:bw manga at my old school, so it's definitely out there somewhere.
Oh my god I need to read this.
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If you guys are interested in Japanese stream, come watch mine!
http://ja.twitch.tv/kuroa1
Whenever I got time, I will be streaming 7pm~9pm (Japan Time) Monday to Friday , anytime in Saturday and Sunday.
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Yes! Japanese influence is what I need to make SC2 even better to watch/play. Can't wait to have a SC2 Meijin, Kisei or Honinbo.
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Japanse culture is the most crazy thing on earth. I hope they stay in their own scene.
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wow this is interesting and good!!
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On April 24 2013 05:16 Master of DalK wrote:
KurOa said that he may or may not and that "Crimson probably will".
Japanese StarLeague gogo
yeeeesssss crimson fighting ^.^
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On April 24 2013 06:22 yokohama wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 03:16 xgtx wrote:
in japan ,if you say you are a "computer gamer" it means that you play porn games on computers...gaming scene at computers are non existant in japan Where did you pull this thought from? I have never heard of this garbage, and obviously it is wrong because even before this thread there have been tons of computer game tournaments for SC2 and even other computer games, it isn't a massive scene such as KR or EU, but it is still here.
How long have you been living in Japan? Or did you just put your country to "Japan" for fun? It's not too far off, that playing PC games is linked to Erotic Games in Japan. Anime like "Ore no imouto ga konnani kawaii wake ga nai" show, in this case, a girl hording Erotic games and other stuff and lending it to her brother. "Boku ha tomodachi ga sukunai" also has a girl that plays "Eroge" on her notebook.
Also it seems like families rather have notebooks than a normal computer, probably because of the limited space they get in their apartments.
Anyway, happy to hear that Japan is starting to develop "E-Sports". Fighting games or arcade games in general are not held with price money, but goods for the first place finisher. When I went to Tougeki 2010, the winners got 1 Hori Real Arcade Pro VX Arcade as their price. A friend of mine also told me that "DUNE", a Japanese KoF player, had organized a tournament with sponsorship and price money.
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On April 24 2013 04:58 scintilliaSD wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 04:20 Nuclease wrote:On April 24 2013 04:10 Antisocialmunky wrote:
Maybe MKP can go over there and finally settle that island expo dispute. Wrong country bro. It's gonna have to be MacSed or Comm. Japan and Korea are in disputes over islands, too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liancourt_Rocks
lmao i love how the foreigner world is just like 'fuck it we'll name these islands ourselves'
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very sad news coming out lately, this is pretty great tho, glad to hear something nice
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A Japan vs Korea match would have quite the crazy audience.
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On April 24 2013 06:07 DjSweetBazz wrote:
If japanese players start playing sc2 seriously like their neighbors, it would be gg for koreans
Ehh how come? As far as I know they don't have anything comparable to the established PC gaming scene in Korea. Now China on the other hand...
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On April 24 2013 07:35 ymir233 wrote:
A Japan vs Korea match would have quite the crazy audience.
apparently
japanese hates koreans
and koreans hate japanese
actually from what I know all the asian countries hate the other asian countries
although I guess that doesn't really apply much to american born/raised asians cause I'm Chinese (my grandparents = China, my parents = Taiwan, I was born in the US... am I taiwanese or chinese lolol) and was born in the USA, and don't really have that hatred or anything ~o~
then again I guess it's mainly the japanese+korean netizens that hate each other... so w/e.
so I guess they'll have a crazy audience with them hating each other? =.=;;
w/e lolstereotypes
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On April 24 2013 07:50 zhurai wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 07:35 ymir233 wrote:
A Japan vs Korea match would have quite the crazy audience. apparently japanese hates koreans and koreans hate japanese actually from what I know all the asian countries hate the other asian countries although I guess that doesn't really apply much to american born/raised asians cause I'm Chinese (my grandparents = China, my parents = Taiwan, I was born in the US... am I taiwanese or chinese lolol) and was born in the USA, and don't really have that hatred or anything ~o~ then again I guess it's mainly the japanese+korean netizens that hate each other... so w/e. so I guess they'll have a crazy audience with them hating each other? =.=;; w/e lolstereotypes
It's not "hate". They dislike each other, that's all. Mainly because of the Dokdo islands.
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On April 24 2013 09:04 Hoon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 07:50 zhurai wrote:On April 24 2013 07:35 ymir233 wrote:
A Japan vs Korea match would have quite the crazy audience. apparently japanese hates koreans and koreans hate japanese actually from what I know all the asian countries hate the other asian countries although I guess that doesn't really apply much to american born/raised asians cause I'm Chinese (my grandparents = China, my parents = Taiwan, I was born in the US... am I taiwanese or chinese lolol) and was born in the USA, and don't really have that hatred or anything ~o~ then again I guess it's mainly the japanese+korean netizens that hate each other... so w/e. so I guess they'll have a crazy audience with them hating each other? =.=;; w/e lolstereotypes It's not "hate". They dislike each other, that's all. Mainly because of the Dokdo islands.
nope, that's the issue in most recent history, but there's quite a few other reasons that they all hate each other..
WWII (and the shrines), japanese occupation of korea, etc
(my opinion though is that's the past, and I don't think the modern japanese kids I know are somehow responsible for say the actrocities that the japanese government did sometime in the past *_* but w/e, but there's quite a bit of hate between the asian races as a result of the history x-x)
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On April 24 2013 09:13 zhurai wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 09:04 Hoon wrote:On April 24 2013 07:50 zhurai wrote:On April 24 2013 07:35 ymir233 wrote:
A Japan vs Korea match would have quite the crazy audience. apparently japanese hates koreans and koreans hate japanese actually from what I know all the asian countries hate the other asian countries although I guess that doesn't really apply much to american born/raised asians cause I'm Chinese (my grandparents = China, my parents = Taiwan, I was born in the US... am I taiwanese or chinese lolol) and was born in the USA, and don't really have that hatred or anything ~o~ then again I guess it's mainly the japanese+korean netizens that hate each other... so w/e. so I guess they'll have a crazy audience with them hating each other? =.=;; w/e lolstereotypes It's not "hate". They dislike each other, that's all. Mainly because of the Dokdo islands. nope, that's the issue in most recent history, but there's quite a few other reasons that they all hate each other.. WWII (and the shrines), japanese occupation of korea, etc (my opinion though is that's the past, and I don't think the modern japanese kids I know are somehow responsible for say the actrocities that the japanese government did sometime in the past *_* but w/e, but there's quite a bit of hate between the asian races as a result of the history x-x)
But that's like saying the US hates Germany.
The current Japanese and Korean society only remembers the things that happened during their lifetime, which is the Dokdo conflict.
But I don't live in Japan nor Korea, so maybe I'm wrong.
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Can't wait for JApaneese players to get good enough for MLG to screw them over
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On April 24 2013 09:13 zhurai wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 09:04 Hoon wrote:On April 24 2013 07:50 zhurai wrote:On April 24 2013 07:35 ymir233 wrote:
A Japan vs Korea match would have quite the crazy audience. apparently japanese hates koreans and koreans hate japanese actually from what I know all the asian countries hate the other asian countries although I guess that doesn't really apply much to american born/raised asians cause I'm Chinese (my grandparents = China, my parents = Taiwan, I was born in the US... am I taiwanese or chinese lolol) and was born in the USA, and don't really have that hatred or anything ~o~ then again I guess it's mainly the japanese+korean netizens that hate each other... so w/e. so I guess they'll have a crazy audience with them hating each other? =.=;; w/e lolstereotypes It's not "hate". They dislike each other, that's all. Mainly because of the Dokdo islands. nope, that's the issue in most recent history, but there's quite a few other reasons that they all hate each other.. WWII (and the shrines), japanese occupation of korea, etc (my opinion though is that's the past, and I don't think the modern japanese kids I know are somehow responsible for say the actrocities that the japanese government did sometime in the past *_* but w/e, but there's quite a bit of hate between the asian races as a result of the history x-x)
Don't be so foolish to blow things out of proportion. There is a love-hate relationship between the two countries. You can't just say that they are utter enemies....
They have a lot of history, but the cultures love each other. There is constant trade and exchanging influences. Many Japanese study Korean and vice versa.
They dislike each other as far as history is concerned, but individuals don't really care about that, so overall it's easier to say that they like each other.
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When I was there I checked a huge store in Japan that sold computer games and they didn't even have Starcraft so I wouldn't expect a high level of gameplay.
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Saying that Japan hates Korea is silly. I doubt most people who live in Japan actually care much about who the islands belong to. I also think, even with that silly difference, that no Japanese would hate a Korean. Kpop is actually quite popular in Japan. Anyway, I definitely want to see some Japanese success here! I hope they won't be as neglected as the Chinese scene! (Oh the drama!)
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On April 24 2013 07:50 zhurai wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 07:35 ymir233 wrote:
A Japan vs Korea match would have quite the crazy audience. apparently japanese hates koreans and koreans hate japanese actually from what I know all the asian countries hate the other asian countries then again I guess it's mainly the japanese+korean netizens that hate each other... so w/e.w/e lolstereotypes
+ Show Spoiler +I don't know why people say this kind of stuff. If you really don't know the PEOPLE of a country why would you say such things?
Of course! Every country has extremists that reject and hate everything that isn't their nation. America has it and it's called the Republican media that shoves misinformation down people's throats. Does that mean every citizen that lives here thinks like they do? To seriously post shit like this is degrading to a population. It's obvious not all citizens hate other Asians, and for unfounded reasons at that. If you knew what you were typing why would you even click the post button? Do you think about what you're typing, or even care? @_@;;?
edit to the below, god dammit i was still making sure this made sense and u quoted me, hueuhehue
People should stop posting about diplomatic relations and instead focus on how awesome this is.
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On April 24 2013 09:43 Flench wrote:
When I was there I checked a huge store in Japan that sold computer games and they didn't even have Starcraft so I wouldn't expect a high level of gameplay.
maybe it was all sold out ;P
On April 24 2013 10:10 -Kyo- wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 07:50 zhurai wrote:On April 24 2013 07:35 ymir233 wrote:
A Japan vs Korea match would have quite the crazy audience. apparently japanese hates koreans and koreans hate japanese actually from what I know all the asian countries hate the other asian countries then again I guess it's mainly the japanese+korean netizens that hate each other... so w/e.w/e lolstereotypes + Show Spoiler +I don't know why people say this kind of stuff. If you really don't know the PEOPLE of a country why would you say such things?
Of course! Every country has extremists that reject and hate everything that isn't their nation. America has it and it's called the Republican party. Does that mean every citizen that lives here thinks like they do? To seriously post shit like this is degrading to a population. It's obvious not all citizens hate other Asians, and for unfounded reasons at that. People should stop posting about diplomatic relations and instead focus on how awesome this is.
internet forums are full of people who talk about stuff where they have no expertise or very limited experience and form opinions based on anecdotes or by skimming over poorly informed articles
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On April 24 2013 09:33 Apack wrote:
Can't wait for JApaneese players to get good enough for MLG to screw them over
lolololololololol.
I was waiting for one of these... Anyways this is awesome for Japan
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Love the format. This might get me playing again.
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If this becomes successful, will they need to hire more voice actors for the units?
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This is pretty awesome, always wondered how big Starcraft was over in Japan.
Hopefully we get to see some new legends from Japan.
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On April 24 2013 10:36 IAmMajiC wrote:
If this becomes successful, will they need to hire more voice actors for the units?
It will be interesting to hear "desu" at the end of every unit voiceclip. Kimochi.
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This is totally incredible to see! I am really excited to see more of the SC2 JP scene
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On April 24 2013 10:10 Comogury wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 09:43 Flench wrote:
When I was there I checked a huge store in Japan that sold computer games and they didn't even have Starcraft so I wouldn't expect a high level of gameplay. maybe it was all sold out ;P Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 10:10 -Kyo- wrote:On April 24 2013 07:50 zhurai wrote:On April 24 2013 07:35 ymir233 wrote:
A Japan vs Korea match would have quite the crazy audience. apparently japanese hates koreans and koreans hate japanese actually from what I know all the asian countries hate the other asian countries then again I guess it's mainly the japanese+korean netizens that hate each other... so w/e.w/e lolstereotypes + Show Spoiler +I don't know why people say this kind of stuff. If you really don't know the PEOPLE of a country why would you say such things?
Of course! Every country has extremists that reject and hate everything that isn't their nation. America has it and it's called the Republican party. Does that mean every citizen that lives here thinks like they do? To seriously post shit like this is degrading to a population. It's obvious not all citizens hate other Asians, and for unfounded reasons at that. People should stop posting about diplomatic relations and instead focus on how awesome this is. internet forums are full of people who talk about stuff where they have no expertise or very limited experience and form opinions based on anecdotes or by skimming over poorly informed articles
If everyone was well informed of the real real truth, then there would be no discussion.
And no, it's not only on the Internet. It's just that people browse forums and imageboards because they have nothing better to do, so they decide to discuss to waste time, nothing so serious.
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On April 24 2013 10:40 julianto wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 10:36 IAmMajiC wrote:
If this becomes successful, will they need to hire more voice actors for the units? It will be interesting to hear "desu" at the end of every unit voiceclip. Kimochi.
我々はより多くのミネラルを必要とするです!
I don't know if it'll be as obnoxious as the constant yo's and nida's in the Korean version.
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awesome sauce. was wondering when this will happen.
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So if i understood this correctly its online in (SEA region?) and they will all be online qualifiers untill the winner gets to go to LAN right ?
Also if you would lose your group and not be able to go to stage 3, its possible to play in it the next week ?
Then stage 3 is all about winning to qualify to a playoff? sorry for being slow :D
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やった~! God I've been waiting for this for so long, and I didn't even know it. Now I can watch starcraft and pretend to be learning Japanese!
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On April 24 2013 07:26 ScoutWBF wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 06:22 yokohama wrote:On April 24 2013 03:16 xgtx wrote:
in japan ,if you say you are a "computer gamer" it means that you play porn games on computers...gaming scene at computers are non existant in japan Where did you pull this thought from? I have never heard of this garbage, and obviously it is wrong because even before this thread there have been tons of computer game tournaments for SC2 and even other computer games, it isn't a massive scene such as KR or EU, but it is still here. How long have you been living in Japan? Or did you just put your country to "Japan" for fun? It's not too far off, that playing PC games is linked to Erotic Games in Japan. Anime like "Ore no imouto ga konnani kawaii wake ga nai" show, in this case, a girl hording Erotic games and other stuff and lending it to her brother. "Boku ha tomodachi ga sukunai" also has a girl that plays "Eroge" on her notebook. Also it seems like families rather have notebooks than a normal computer, probably because of the limited space they get in their apartments. Anyway, happy to hear that Japan is starting to develop "E-Sports". Fighting games or arcade games in general are not held with price money, but goods for the first place finisher. When I went to Tougeki 2010, the winners got 1 Hori Real Arcade Pro VX Arcade as their price. A friend of mine also told me that "DUNE", a Japanese KoF player, had organized a tournament with sponsorship and price money.
Wait let me get this right.
You just used 2 comedy (one completely anime/otaku as whole subject) anime as proof? Oh man, if we based off every country on 2 shows you happen to saw form there then i guess watching a show like trailer park boys means nobody in America has a real house and everyone lives in a trailer right. Do you have any idea how insane your logic is?
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im so pumped for this league! I'm glad they are going to stream it up but i hope we get some english casts for the league
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I hope Daigo switches to Starcraft 2 LOL LOL
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This just made moving to Japan so much cooler.
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I went to a gsl finals barcraft in tokyo a number of months ago and met the type gaming team, dont recall a player named Real. A buddy of mine is good friends with a few of them, ill have to ask him.
Gambling is illegal here in japan, but there are ways around it. They dont consider this kind of gaming gambling though. Fighting games are just a drop in the bucket here. Arcades everywhere, always packed, and so many crazy games. Lots of multiplayer games too. You can find like 20 guys sittng at a giant screen doing horse racing, tons of card gsmes, fighting games. Awesome arcades here... and more manga and anime than you could ever possibly hope to consume. Interesting culture...
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Japan fighting!!
hope to see some stars from Japan eventually
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On April 24 2013 06:24 EthanKairos wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 05:20 Targe wrote:On April 24 2013 01:50 Ramiz1989 wrote:On April 24 2013 01:39 blagoonga123 wrote:
hooray one step closer to a sports manga based around competitive starcraft LOL, I need SC2 Manga/Anime, like RIGHT NOW! I remember seeing my SK friend reading a sc:bw manga at my old school, so it's definitely out there somewhere. Oh my god I need to read this.
Good luck finding it, that was like six years ago
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The hope of the world to beat the koreans ? :D
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On April 24 2013 11:46 Assirra wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 07:26 ScoutWBF wrote:On April 24 2013 06:22 yokohama wrote:On April 24 2013 03:16 xgtx wrote:
in japan ,if you say you are a "computer gamer" it means that you play porn games on computers...gaming scene at computers are non existant in japan Where did you pull this thought from? I have never heard of this garbage, and obviously it is wrong because even before this thread there have been tons of computer game tournaments for SC2 and even other computer games, it isn't a massive scene such as KR or EU, but it is still here. How long have you been living in Japan? Or did you just put your country to "Japan" for fun? It's not too far off, that playing PC games is linked to Erotic Games in Japan. Anime like "Ore no imouto ga konnani kawaii wake ga nai" show, in this case, a girl hording Erotic games and other stuff and lending it to her brother. "Boku ha tomodachi ga sukunai" also has a girl that plays "Eroge" on her notebook. Also it seems like families rather have notebooks than a normal computer, probably because of the limited space they get in their apartments. Anyway, happy to hear that Japan is starting to develop "E-Sports". Fighting games or arcade games in general are not held with price money, but goods for the first place finisher. When I went to Tougeki 2010, the winners got 1 Hori Real Arcade Pro VX Arcade as their price. A friend of mine also told me that "DUNE", a Japanese KoF player, had organized a tournament with sponsorship and price money. Wait let me get this right. You just used 2 comedy (one completely anime/otaku as whole subject) anime as proof? Oh man, if we based off every country on 2 shows you happen to saw form there then i guess watching a show like trailer park boys means nobody in America has a real house and everyone lives in a trailer right. Do you have any idea how insane your logic is?
I didn't base it on those 2 Anime shows, but gave them as an example. From my experience there is still a quite negative image of people playing video games in Japan (which anime also depict. Dunno if I have ever seen a Gamer or PC Programmer shown as a super awesome person in an Anime). PCs were mainly used for eroge or other adult stuff, that was not allowed on consoles.
Even the huge fighting game community doesn't get much love. There are much more sponsored players in the US or Europe than in Japan, even though the Japanese dominate pretty much every game.
Anyway, GL to the Japanese guys. Hope they can make something happen
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On April 24 2013 07:26 ScoutWBF wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 06:22 yokohama wrote:On April 24 2013 03:16 xgtx wrote:
in japan ,if you say you are a "computer gamer" it means that you play porn games on computers...gaming scene at computers are non existant in japan Where did you pull this thought from? I have never heard of this garbage, and obviously it is wrong because even before this thread there have been tons of computer game tournaments for SC2 and even other computer games, it isn't a massive scene such as KR or EU, but it is still here. How long have you been living in Japan? Or did you just put your country to "Japan" for fun? It's not too far off, that playing PC games is linked to Erotic Games in Japan. Anime like "Ore no imouto ga konnani kawaii wake ga nai" show, in this case, a girl hording Erotic games and other stuff and lending it to her brother. "Boku ha tomodachi ga sukunai" also has a girl that plays "Eroge" on her notebook. Also it seems like families rather have notebooks than a normal computer, probably because of the limited space they get in their apartments.
I've lived in Japan for 2 years so far, and was married to a Japanese woman for 3 years before I came over. From your examples listed, I'm not even going to go into it because you sound like some weaboo that seems to have some strange view of Japan from your weird ass animes and is stating it as a fact when it is actually just some obscure observation that no one I have spoken to even has ever heard of before.
I'm going to take you saying "seems like families have notebooks than normal computers" to mean you've never actually been to Japan or have only visited for a short time. In Kanagawa and Tokyo at least, everyone I know has a desktop computer. Even my friends who live in little apartments still have room for computers. Hell, even my girlfriend's mother has her own PC. Japanese houses and apartments/mansions are small yes, but small enough to not have room for a computer? That is another telltale that A. you either have never actually been to Japan, or B. you went to some desolate prefecture that shouldn't be generalized as all of Japan.
So to answer your question, no, I didn't just put Japan as my country for fun. Thanks for asking though.
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really surprising, good to see Japan getting into eSports scene other than the fighting games
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On April 24 2013 17:10 yokohama wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 07:26 ScoutWBF wrote:On April 24 2013 06:22 yokohama wrote:On April 24 2013 03:16 xgtx wrote:
in japan ,if you say you are a "computer gamer" it means that you play porn games on computers...gaming scene at computers are non existant in japan Where did you pull this thought from? I have never heard of this garbage, and obviously it is wrong because even before this thread there have been tons of computer game tournaments for SC2 and even other computer games, it isn't a massive scene such as KR or EU, but it is still here. How long have you been living in Japan? Or did you just put your country to "Japan" for fun? It's not too far off, that playing PC games is linked to Erotic Games in Japan. Anime like "Ore no imouto ga konnani kawaii wake ga nai" show, in this case, a girl hording Erotic games and other stuff and lending it to her brother. "Boku ha tomodachi ga sukunai" also has a girl that plays "Eroge" on her notebook. Also it seems like families rather have notebooks than a normal computer, probably because of the limited space they get in their apartments. I've lived in Japan for 2 years so far, and was married to a Japanese woman for 3 years before I came over. From your examples listed, I'm not even going to go into it because you sound like some weaboo that seems to have some strange view of Japan from your weird ass animes and is stating it as a fact when it is actually just some obscure observation that no one I have spoken to even has ever heard of before. I'm going to take you saying " seems like families have notebooks than normal computers" to mean you've never actually been to Japan or have only visited for a short time. In Kanagawa and Tokyo at least, everyone I know has a desktop computer. Even my friends who live in little apartments still have room for computers. Hell, even my girlfriend's mother has her own PC. Japanese houses and apartments/mansions are small yes, but small enough to not have room for a computer? That is another telltale that A. you either have never actually been to Japan, or B. you went to some desolate prefecture that shouldn't be generalized as all of Japan. So to answer your question, no, I didn't just put Japan as my country for fun. Thanks for asking though.
I wrote "seems like" as all my friends in Japan use a notebook instead of a PC, some families of my friends even use it for the whole family, aka it's the only computer in the apartment. Did not want to generalize something I cannot back up by statistics. If you have more information on that subject, I would be very interested in it. Japanese sources are fine as well.
I have only been in Japan for ~1,5months now. I would not really call myself a weaboo, as I'm more interested in video games than anime/manga. I rather hit up an arcade in my free time. Also I've been to Osaka and Tokyo so far, not planning to move to some desolate place in the near future.
Maybe I just have a different experience in Japan up till now, compared to your experience.
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On April 24 2013 07:26 ScoutWBF wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 06:22 yokohama wrote:On April 24 2013 03:16 xgtx wrote:
in japan ,if you say you are a "computer gamer" it means that you play porn games on computers...gaming scene at computers are non existant in japan Where did you pull this thought from? I have never heard of this garbage, and obviously it is wrong because even before this thread there have been tons of computer game tournaments for SC2 and even other computer games, it isn't a massive scene such as KR or EU, but it is still here. How long have you been living in Japan? Or did you just put your country to "Japan" for fun? It's not too far off, that playing PC games is linked to Erotic Games in Japan. Anime like "Ore no imouto ga konnani kawaii wake ga nai" show, in this case, a girl hording Erotic games and other stuff and lending it to her brother. "Boku ha tomodachi ga sukunai" also has a girl that plays "Eroge" on her notebook. Also it seems like families rather have notebooks than a normal computer, probably because of the limited space they get in their apartments. Anyway, happy to hear that Japan is starting to develop "E-Sports". Fighting games or arcade games in general are not held with price money, but goods for the first place finisher. When I went to Tougeki 2010, the winners got 1 Hori Real Arcade Pro VX Arcade as their price. A friend of mine also told me that "DUNE", a Japanese KoF player, had organized a tournament with sponsorship and price money.
Pretty much my thoughts. And I've lived in Japan for more than 8 years now.
I work in Akihabara (the video games, electronic town in Tokyo for those who don't know) and I have to agree a majority of PC games sold here are erotic games (can we even call this a game ?).
It doesn't mean PC gaming is not popular at all here, but associating PC games in Japan with porn is not a mistake imho.
Recently the Playstation/Xbox games are more often on PC so I wouldn't be surprised if more japanese switch to play with their PC instead. However, japanese youngsters often live in a 20 square meters 1 room appartment with tatami flooring and not much furniture (at least nothing big like a desk). They like to play sitting on the futon with the TV often set directly on the floor, so playing with a mouse + keyboard is not really convenient in this case.
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On April 24 2013 17:27 ScoutWBF wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 17:10 yokohama wrote:On April 24 2013 07:26 ScoutWBF wrote:On April 24 2013 06:22 yokohama wrote:On April 24 2013 03:16 xgtx wrote:
in japan ,if you say you are a "computer gamer" it means that you play porn games on computers...gaming scene at computers are non existant in japan Where did you pull this thought from? I have never heard of this garbage, and obviously it is wrong because even before this thread there have been tons of computer game tournaments for SC2 and even other computer games, it isn't a massive scene such as KR or EU, but it is still here. How long have you been living in Japan? Or did you just put your country to "Japan" for fun? It's not too far off, that playing PC games is linked to Erotic Games in Japan. Anime like "Ore no imouto ga konnani kawaii wake ga nai" show, in this case, a girl hording Erotic games and other stuff and lending it to her brother. "Boku ha tomodachi ga sukunai" also has a girl that plays "Eroge" on her notebook. Also it seems like families rather have notebooks than a normal computer, probably because of the limited space they get in their apartments. I've lived in Japan for 2 years so far, and was married to a Japanese woman for 3 years before I came over. From your examples listed, I'm not even going to go into it because you sound like some weaboo that seems to have some strange view of Japan from your weird ass animes and is stating it as a fact when it is actually just some obscure observation that no one I have spoken to even has ever heard of before. I'm going to take you saying " seems like families have notebooks than normal computers" to mean you've never actually been to Japan or have only visited for a short time. In Kanagawa and Tokyo at least, everyone I know has a desktop computer. Even my friends who live in little apartments still have room for computers. Hell, even my girlfriend's mother has her own PC. Japanese houses and apartments/mansions are small yes, but small enough to not have room for a computer? That is another telltale that A. you either have never actually been to Japan, or B. you went to some desolate prefecture that shouldn't be generalized as all of Japan. So to answer your question, no, I didn't just put Japan as my country for fun. Thanks for asking though. I wrote "seems like" as all my friends in Japan use a notebook instead of a PC, some families of my friends even use it for the whole family, aka it's the only computer in the apartment. Did not want to generalize something I cannot back up by statistics. If you have more information on that subject, I would be very interested in it. Japanese sources are fine as well. I have only been in Japan for ~1,5months now. I would not really call myself a weaboo, as I'm more interested in video games than anime/manga. I rather hit up an arcade in my free time. Also I've been to Osaka and Tokyo so far, not planning to move to some desolate place in the near future. Maybe I just have a different experience in Japan up till now, compared to your experience.
Understandable :D If you would've had that as your second post I would've seen where you were coming from and it wouldn't sound like an attacking post. Glad we can settle on different experiences without just getting on the offensive :D cheers
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On April 24 2013 17:10 yokohama wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 07:26 ScoutWBF wrote:On April 24 2013 06:22 yokohama wrote:On April 24 2013 03:16 xgtx wrote:
in japan ,if you say you are a "computer gamer" it means that you play porn games on computers...gaming scene at computers are non existant in japan Where did you pull this thought from? I have never heard of this garbage, and obviously it is wrong because even before this thread there have been tons of computer game tournaments for SC2 and even other computer games, it isn't a massive scene such as KR or EU, but it is still here. How long have you been living in Japan? Or did you just put your country to "Japan" for fun? It's not too far off, that playing PC games is linked to Erotic Games in Japan. Anime like "Ore no imouto ga konnani kawaii wake ga nai" show, in this case, a girl hording Erotic games and other stuff and lending it to her brother. "Boku ha tomodachi ga sukunai" also has a girl that plays "Eroge" on her notebook. Also it seems like families rather have notebooks than a normal computer, probably because of the limited space they get in their apartments. I've lived in Japan for 2 years so far, and was married to a Japanese woman for 3 years before I came over. From your examples listed, I'm not even going to go into it because you sound like some weaboo that seems to have some strange view of Japan from your weird ass animes and is stating it as a fact when it is actually just some obscure observation that no one I have spoken to even has ever heard of before. I'm going to take you saying " seems like families have notebooks than normal computers" to mean you've never actually been to Japan or have only visited for a short time. In Kanagawa and Tokyo at least, everyone I know has a desktop computer. Even my friends who live in little apartments still have room for computers. Hell, even my girlfriend's mother has her own PC. Japanese houses and apartments/mansions are small yes, but small enough to not have room for a computer? That is another telltale that A. you either have never actually been to Japan, or B. you went to some desolate prefecture that shouldn't be generalized as all of Japan. So to answer your question, no, I didn't just put Japan as my country for fun. Thanks for asking though.
Well, even someone who has always lived in Japan can't be sure about how popular notebooks are vs desktops, so the "seems like" sounds legit. However I am pretty sure notebooks have a bigger market share here compared to Europe for instance (based on how many notebooks are shown compared to desktops in big shops such as Yodobashi Camera + own experience).
Obviously it depends on who you know in Japan. If you speak about married persons with a house, obviously they have room for a desktop PC, if you are considering younger people they may live in a 1-room. In some small households, even in Tokyo, you will have mostly tatami rooms with no desk. I think the amount of families with these old fashioned appartments is constantly decreasing, so that the amount of desktops is likely to increase in that regard. So well, maybe the children born in these households will be more likely to get into PC gaming, but habits in Japan are hard to change.
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On April 24 2013 11:30 gubbstrut wrote:
So if i understood this correctly its online in (SEA region?) and they will all be online qualifiers untill the winner gets to go to LAN right ?
Also if you would lose your group and not be able to go to stage 3, its possible to play in it the next week ?
Then stage 3 is all about winning to qualify to a playoff? sorry for being slow :D
Now that the server can be selected, it could be the KR server, Korea has the best ping from Japan (a pretty good one given it's overseas). But actually almost every japanese plays with the US version of the game. If you try to buy SC2 online in Japan, you automatically get to the US battle.net, based on your IP and regardless of your PC settings.
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What surprises me the most about hearing this is that as far as I know there's no Japanese language version of Starcraft II - or any other Blizzard game here, for that matter. Never been quite sure as to why that's the case.
It's definitely true in my experience that PC gaming isn't nearly as big as handheld or console gaming, but I'd stop short of characterizing all computer gaming as eroge. If you only used Akihabara or Denden Town as examples, then yeah, maybe. There is from what I can see a definite lack of Japanese-made PC games and they don't tend to like the Western ones that are made, so there's not a whole lot of market at the moment.
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On April 24 2013 20:29 Infernal Knight wrote:
What surprises me the most about hearing this is that as far as I know there's no Japanese language version of Starcraft II - or any other Blizzard game here, for that matter. Never been quite sure as to why that's the case.
Starcraft was released in Japan but BW wasn't.
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On April 24 2013 17:44 samurai80 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 17:10 yokohama wrote:On April 24 2013 07:26 ScoutWBF wrote:On April 24 2013 06:22 yokohama wrote:On April 24 2013 03:16 xgtx wrote:
in japan ,if you say you are a "computer gamer" it means that you play porn games on computers...gaming scene at computers are non existant in japan Where did you pull this thought from? I have never heard of this garbage, and obviously it is wrong because even before this thread there have been tons of computer game tournaments for SC2 and even other computer games, it isn't a massive scene such as KR or EU, but it is still here. How long have you been living in Japan? Or did you just put your country to "Japan" for fun? It's not too far off, that playing PC games is linked to Erotic Games in Japan. Anime like "Ore no imouto ga konnani kawaii wake ga nai" show, in this case, a girl hording Erotic games and other stuff and lending it to her brother. "Boku ha tomodachi ga sukunai" also has a girl that plays "Eroge" on her notebook. Also it seems like families rather have notebooks than a normal computer, probably because of the limited space they get in their apartments. I've lived in Japan for 2 years so far, and was married to a Japanese woman for 3 years before I came over. From your examples listed, I'm not even going to go into it because you sound like some weaboo that seems to have some strange view of Japan from your weird ass animes and is stating it as a fact when it is actually just some obscure observation that no one I have spoken to even has ever heard of before. I'm going to take you saying " seems like families have notebooks than normal computers" to mean you've never actually been to Japan or have only visited for a short time. In Kanagawa and Tokyo at least, everyone I know has a desktop computer. Even my friends who live in little apartments still have room for computers. Hell, even my girlfriend's mother has her own PC. Japanese houses and apartments/mansions are small yes, but small enough to not have room for a computer? That is another telltale that A. you either have never actually been to Japan, or B. you went to some desolate prefecture that shouldn't be generalized as all of Japan. So to answer your question, no, I didn't just put Japan as my country for fun. Thanks for asking though. Well, even someone who has always lived in Japan can't be sure about how popular notebooks are vs desktops, so the "seems like" sounds legit. However I am pretty sure notebooks have a bigger market share here compared to Europe for instance (based on how many notebooks are shown compared to desktops in big shops such as Yodobashi Camera + own experience). Obviously it depends on who you know in Japan. If you speak about married persons with a house, obviously they have room for a desktop PC, if you are considering younger people they may live in a 1-room. In some small households, even in Tokyo, you will have mostly tatami rooms with no desk. I think the amount of families with these old fashioned appartments is constantly decreasing, so that the amount of desktops is likely to increase in that regard. So well, maybe the children born in these households will be more likely to get into PC gaming, but habits in Japan are hard to change.
"How to go from the most narrow minded statement to the most open minded one, once someone proved you wrong" Could be a title to that post.
In your first post it's almost like your trying to educate the reader. You force your opinion and so called "knowledge" of Japan on others and pretend it's fact. Than suddenly someone who actually may know shit about the country starts proving you wrong and you're like "Oh shit ... better rephrase what I say in a less categoric way or I'll look like a dummy"...
And here we are: forum posting 101
Back on Topic:
I'm a huge fan of Competitive Gaming in general (SC2, DOTA, Fighting Games) and I've always thought japanese players with their hard work and dedication (comparable to Korean players) could definitely translate those skills to more mediatized games such as SC2 or Mobas.
I'm really glad to finally see it happening and I hope this could help dynamize the asian scene outside of Korea.
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On April 24 2013 20:29 Infernal Knight wrote:+ Show Spoiler +What surprises me the most about hearing this is that as far as I know there's no Japanese language version of Starcraft II - or any other Blizzard game here, for that matter. Never been quite sure as to why that's the case.
It's definitely true in my experience that PC gaming isn't nearly as big as handheld or console gaming, but I'd stop short of characterizing all computer gaming as eroge. If you only used Akihabara or Denden Town as examples, then yeah, maybe. + Show Spoiler +There is from what I can see a definite lack of Japanese-made PC games and they don't tend to like the Western ones that are made, so there's not a whole lot of market at the moment.
I didn't say all computer gaming in Japan was eroge of course, I just said it's big enough to be somewhat associated to the image of PC gaming in Japan. And well, imo Akiba must be at least representative of a big part of gaming in Japan. But yes, there are some other japanese popular games on PC (Monster Hunter and FFXI for instance). Until recently it was actually funny to see these FFXI benchmarks running on gaming PCs in shops here, as if FFXI and its antique graphics would be able to benchmark a recent PC ^^
But now some good hardware shops (Tsukumo, Ark) in Akiba have pretty nice gamer hardware (headsets, mouse, keyboards, mouse cable holders, chairs...). Most of them with some foreign game playable (often it's an FPS).
When WoL was released I remember there were signs announcing it in some streets near the shops selling it. This is why more recently with HotS, I actually searched a bit for an EU version of HotS (as my WoL was EU I need to upgrade with an EU box version). I went to a shop that appeared to be selling like 95% of PC games in eroge and 5% in foreign games, so that the guy didn't even seem to know SC2... I didn't search too long but in the area I was there were tons of eroge and no trace of HotS (well it was before the release but I was looking for some announcement). I think that was the wrong place to get my game but still, pretty disapointing (that's where I remember seeing these SC2 signs when WoL was released).
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On April 24 2013 21:20 Emix_Squall wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 17:44 samurai80 wrote:On April 24 2013 17:10 yokohama wrote:On April 24 2013 07:26 ScoutWBF wrote:On April 24 2013 06:22 yokohama wrote:On April 24 2013 03:16 xgtx wrote:
in japan ,if you say you are a "computer gamer" it means that you play porn games on computers...gaming scene at computers are non existant in japan Where did you pull this thought from? I have never heard of this garbage, and obviously it is wrong because even before this thread there have been tons of computer game tournaments for SC2 and even other computer games, it isn't a massive scene such as KR or EU, but it is still here. How long have you been living in Japan? Or did you just put your country to "Japan" for fun? It's not too far off, that playing PC games is linked to Erotic Games in Japan. Anime like "Ore no imouto ga konnani kawaii wake ga nai" show, in this case, a girl hording Erotic games and other stuff and lending it to her brother. "Boku ha tomodachi ga sukunai" also has a girl that plays "Eroge" on her notebook. Also it seems like families rather have notebooks than a normal computer, probably because of the limited space they get in their apartments. I've lived in Japan for 2 years so far, and was married to a Japanese woman for 3 years before I came over. From your examples listed, I'm not even going to go into it because you sound like some weaboo that seems to have some strange view of Japan from your weird ass animes and is stating it as a fact when it is actually just some obscure observation that no one I have spoken to even has ever heard of before. I'm going to take you saying " seems like families have notebooks than normal computers" to mean you've never actually been to Japan or have only visited for a short time. In Kanagawa and Tokyo at least, everyone I know has a desktop computer. Even my friends who live in little apartments still have room for computers. Hell, even my girlfriend's mother has her own PC. Japanese houses and apartments/mansions are small yes, but small enough to not have room for a computer? That is another telltale that A. you either have never actually been to Japan, or B. you went to some desolate prefecture that shouldn't be generalized as all of Japan. So to answer your question, no, I didn't just put Japan as my country for fun. Thanks for asking though. Well, even someone who has always lived in Japan can't be sure about how popular notebooks are vs desktops, so the "seems like" sounds legit. However I am pretty sure notebooks have a bigger market share here compared to Europe for instance (based on how many notebooks are shown compared to desktops in big shops such as Yodobashi Camera + own experience). Obviously it depends on who you know in Japan. If you speak about married persons with a house, obviously they have room for a desktop PC, if you are considering younger people they may live in a 1-room. In some small households, even in Tokyo, you will have mostly tatami rooms with no desk. I think the amount of families with these old fashioned appartments is constantly decreasing, so that the amount of desktops is likely to increase in that regard. So well, maybe the children born in these households will be more likely to get into PC gaming, but habits in Japan are hard to change. "How to go from the most narrow minded statement to the most open minded one, once someone proved you wrong" Could be a title to that post. In your first post it's almost like your trying to educate the reader. You force your opinion and so called "knowledge" of Japan on others and pretend it's fact. Than suddenly someone who actually may know shit about the country starts proving you wrong and you're like "Oh shit ... better rephrase what I say in a less categoric way or I'll look like a dummy"...
Aren't you confusing about who made the post !? I read Yokohama and ScoutWBF's posts, and I reacted to them giving my opinion on the subject. Anything wrong with that ?
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On April 24 2013 21:00 Sayle wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 20:29 Infernal Knight wrote:
What surprises me the most about hearing this is that as far as I know there's no Japanese language version of Starcraft II - or any other Blizzard game here, for that matter. Never been quite sure as to why that's the case.
Starcraft was released in Japan but BW wasn't.
That's very interesting to hear. Was there any competitive sc1 scene ?
Because if it didn't it means that the success of a SC2 pro scene in Japan will only be assured by SC2 alone without the whole broodwar legacy, without any big names... Only Heart of the Swarm.
... It's going to be though.
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Always good to see SC2 spreading to new places!
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On April 25 2013 00:03 renkin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 21:00 Sayle wrote:On April 24 2013 20:29 Infernal Knight wrote:
What surprises me the most about hearing this is that as far as I know there's no Japanese language version of Starcraft II - or any other Blizzard game here, for that matter. Never been quite sure as to why that's the case.
Starcraft was released in Japan but BW wasn't. That's very interesting to hear. Was there any competitive sc1 scene ? Because if it didn't it means that the success of a SC2 pro scene in Japan will only be assured by SC2 alone without the whole broodwar legacy, without any big names... Only Heart of the Swarm. ... It's going to be though.
There was competitive BW and WC3 in Japan, they just weren't as big as other countries. I wouldn't say that they were so tiny if you compare them with most countries, but if you compare them with the big ones, then yeah they were tiny.
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On April 24 2013 17:00 ScoutWBF wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 11:46 Assirra wrote:On April 24 2013 07:26 ScoutWBF wrote:On April 24 2013 06:22 yokohama wrote:On April 24 2013 03:16 xgtx wrote:
in japan ,if you say you are a "computer gamer" it means that you play porn games on computers...gaming scene at computers are non existant in japan Where did you pull this thought from? I have never heard of this garbage, and obviously it is wrong because even before this thread there have been tons of computer game tournaments for SC2 and even other computer games, it isn't a massive scene such as KR or EU, but it is still here. How long have you been living in Japan? Or did you just put your country to "Japan" for fun? It's not too far off, that playing PC games is linked to Erotic Games in Japan. Anime like "Ore no imouto ga konnani kawaii wake ga nai" show, in this case, a girl hording Erotic games and other stuff and lending it to her brother. "Boku ha tomodachi ga sukunai" also has a girl that plays "Eroge" on her notebook. Also it seems like families rather have notebooks than a normal computer, probably because of the limited space they get in their apartments. Anyway, happy to hear that Japan is starting to develop "E-Sports". Fighting games or arcade games in general are not held with price money, but goods for the first place finisher. When I went to Tougeki 2010, the winners got 1 Hori Real Arcade Pro VX Arcade as their price. A friend of mine also told me that "DUNE", a Japanese KoF player, had organized a tournament with sponsorship and price money. Wait let me get this right. You just used 2 comedy (one completely anime/otaku as whole subject) anime as proof? Oh man, if we based off every country on 2 shows you happen to saw form there then i guess watching a show like trailer park boys means nobody in America has a real house and everyone lives in a trailer right. Do you have any idea how insane your logic is? I didn't base it on those 2 Anime shows, but gave them as an example. From my experience there is still a quite negative image of people playing video games in Japan (which anime also depict. Dunno if I have ever seen a Gamer or PC Programmer shown as a super awesome person in an Anime). PCs were mainly used for eroge or other adult stuff, that was not allowed on consoles. Even the huge fighting game community doesn't get much love. There are much more sponsored players in the US or Europe than in Japan, even though the Japanese dominate pretty much every game. Anyway, GL to the Japanese guys. Hope they can make something happen
I don't know why that other guy says such stupid things but you are totally right. In japan 70% of all sold PC games are eroge or visual novels. There are a few exceptions, like S;G but mostly they do Rancer Hatoful, etc.
Not like I'm not rooting for SCtoo over there but their gaming culture comes from arcades and consoles, that's just the way it is.
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On April 25 2013 02:47 PVJ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 17:00 ScoutWBF wrote:On April 24 2013 11:46 Assirra wrote:On April 24 2013 07:26 ScoutWBF wrote:On April 24 2013 06:22 yokohama wrote:On April 24 2013 03:16 xgtx wrote:
in japan ,if you say you are a "computer gamer" it means that you play porn games on computers...gaming scene at computers are non existant in japan Where did you pull this thought from? I have never heard of this garbage, and obviously it is wrong because even before this thread there have been tons of computer game tournaments for SC2 and even other computer games, it isn't a massive scene such as KR or EU, but it is still here. How long have you been living in Japan? Or did you just put your country to "Japan" for fun? It's not too far off, that playing PC games is linked to Erotic Games in Japan. Anime like "Ore no imouto ga konnani kawaii wake ga nai" show, in this case, a girl hording Erotic games and other stuff and lending it to her brother. "Boku ha tomodachi ga sukunai" also has a girl that plays "Eroge" on her notebook. Also it seems like families rather have notebooks than a normal computer, probably because of the limited space they get in their apartments. Anyway, happy to hear that Japan is starting to develop "E-Sports". Fighting games or arcade games in general are not held with price money, but goods for the first place finisher. When I went to Tougeki 2010, the winners got 1 Hori Real Arcade Pro VX Arcade as their price. A friend of mine also told me that "DUNE", a Japanese KoF player, had organized a tournament with sponsorship and price money. Wait let me get this right. You just used 2 comedy (one completely anime/otaku as whole subject) anime as proof? Oh man, if we based off every country on 2 shows you happen to saw form there then i guess watching a show like trailer park boys means nobody in America has a real house and everyone lives in a trailer right. Do you have any idea how insane your logic is? I didn't base it on those 2 Anime shows, but gave them as an example. From my experience there is still a quite negative image of people playing video games in Japan (which anime also depict. Dunno if I have ever seen a Gamer or PC Programmer shown as a super awesome person in an Anime). PCs were mainly used for eroge or other adult stuff, that was not allowed on consoles. Even the huge fighting game community doesn't get much love. There are much more sponsored players in the US or Europe than in Japan, even though the Japanese dominate pretty much every game. Anyway, GL to the Japanese guys. Hope they can make something happen I don't know why that other guy says such stupid things but you are totally right. In japan 70% of all sold PC games are eroge or visual novels. There are a few exceptions, like S;G but mostly they do Rancer Hatoful, etc. Not like I'm not rooting for SCtoo over there but their gaming culture comes from arcades and consoles, that's just the way it is.
People lets not derail this thread by talking about Eroge video games.
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I propose there be anime graphics for starcraft 2 with cell-shading. It will look like an episode of CarbotAnimation's Starcrafts.
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I'm so excited for this. When I studied abroad in Japan I saw a lot of SC2 since all the time zones lined up perfectly! I'd be able to start watching American and European tournaments in the morning and such and also catch the GSL since it's in the same time zone as Korea. I always wondered why I didn't see many Japanese pro gamers in the international scene at all since I't so so close to Korea. Anyway, I hope to see their scene grow more and more!
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I'm surprised to find so many Japan-knowers/Japanese-speakers here. I'd figure one would find more people interested in Korea. "Yokohama" are you a fellow Yokohama:er? : D
At the discussion whether PC = eroge or not, I'd say having a PC is not weird at all (where would you otherwise look at Outlook Express?). However "playing games on PC" is quite "nerdy". Even if it isn't eroge, it is way more "nerdy" than playing games on console or at the arcade.
My view of it is that being "nerdy" is becomming more and more okay, but it still looked down upon by majority of the society.
On April 24 2013 07:50 zhurai wrote:
japanese hates koreans
and koreans hate japanese
actually from what I know all the asian countries hate the other asian countries
The Japanese and Taiwanese like each other! : D
Partly becuase they both dislike the Chinese.
On April 24 2013 02:20 scintilliaSD wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 02:19 ZenithM wrote:
"Starcraft Legend Akagi: The Genius Who Hellbat-dropped Into the Darkness". Does it culminate in a battle where Akagi is drained of blood every time he loses a unit?
Stim Packs maybe?
On April 24 2013 02:28 elfonse wrote:
I just imagined Initial-D but about sc2.
Takumi was forced to play SC2 every morning from 4 o'clock since he was 13.
Takumi's father, Bunta, was a pro back in the Brood War days.
Takumi didn't enjoy it and just tried to kill his opponent as quick as possible to be able to go back to sleep, and in the process acquired some real skills. Though, this is just against the computer, he has never been interested in the ladder.
But suddenly one day he is challenged and finds the joy of playing competively.
Something like that?
On April 24 2013 03:52 Danzo wrote:Didn't GO become really popular again during the late 90's is because of an Anime/Manga that came out about a kid striving to become a GO player? I heard the GO scene blew up because of that show.
Kind of, but that boom is dead by now. Unless you go to a Go Saloon you'd be surprised by how few even knows the (few) rules of it. Shougi on the other hand, some people at least seem to know the rules.
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On April 24 2013 01:46 Dismay wrote:
Hopefully I'll see more out of Breek and Nemuke now. I'd like to watch if they have streams.
^ fuck yeah
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On April 26 2013 16:49 Isuna wrote:
I'm surprised to find so many Japan-knowers/Japanese-speakers here. I'd figure one would find more people interested in Korea. "Yokohama" are you a fellow Yokohama:er? : D
Yeah I live near Yokohama from Sotetsusen:D
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[ Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 02:28 elfonse wrote:
I just imagined Initial-D but about sc2. Takumi was forced to play SC2 every morning from 4 o'clock since he was 13. Takumi's father, Bunta, was a pro back in the Brood War days. Takumi didn't enjoy it and just tried to kill his opponent as quick as possible to be able to go back to sleep, and in the process acquired some real skills. Though, this is just against the computer, he has never been interested in the ladder. But suddenly one day he is challenged and finds the joy of playing competively. Something like that?
Yessss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! probably uses simple splitting for his first technique, shocks all the players
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Blizzard please make a Japanese language pack for SC2. There are some many people who dont start playing because they do not understand English.
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I've been curious when Japan was going to make an entrance into the competitive scene. It would be cool to see some Japanese pro gamers!
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I think that the we play on NA because judgement of players skill is based on NA ladder ranking. Though I am agreed with you that KR should be the better option.
On April 24 2013 17:58 samurai80 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 11:30 gubbstrut wrote:
So if i understood this correctly its online in (SEA region?) and they will all be online qualifiers untill the winner gets to go to LAN right ?
Also if you would lose your group and not be able to go to stage 3, its possible to play in it the next week ?
Then stage 3 is all about winning to qualify to a playoff? sorry for being slow :D Now that the server can be selected, it could be the KR server, Korea has the best ping from Japan (a pretty good one given it's overseas). But actually almost every japanese plays with the US version of the game. If you try to buy SC2 online in Japan, you automatically get to the US battle.net, based on your IP and regardless of your PC settings.
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On April 27 2013 06:26 JapaneseSC2 wrote:
Blizzard please make a Japanese language pack for SC2. There are some many people who dont start playing because they do not understand English.
You should be posting this on the Blizzard forums, not here. Anyway, I'm looking forward to this new tournament
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On April 24 2013 16:28 Targe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 06:24 EthanKairos wrote:On April 24 2013 05:20 Targe wrote:On April 24 2013 01:50 Ramiz1989 wrote:On April 24 2013 01:39 blagoonga123 wrote:
hooray one step closer to a sports manga based around competitive starcraft LOL, I need SC2 Manga/Anime, like RIGHT NOW! I remember seeing my SK friend reading a sc:bw manga at my old school, so it's definitely out there somewhere. Oh my god I need to read this. Good luck finding it, that was like six years ago
thats the only one i can think of: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=70414
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If the prize pool becomes decent i can see koreans going to compete and taking all the money.
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On April 27 2013 08:19 Paljas wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 16:28 Targe wrote:On April 24 2013 06:24 EthanKairos wrote:On April 24 2013 05:20 Targe wrote:On April 24 2013 01:50 Ramiz1989 wrote:On April 24 2013 01:39 blagoonga123 wrote:
hooray one step closer to a sports manga based around competitive starcraft LOL, I need SC2 Manga/Anime, like RIGHT NOW! I remember seeing my SK friend reading a sc:bw manga at my old school, so it's definitely out there somewhere. Oh my god I need to read this. Good luck finding it, that was like six years ago thats the only one i can think of: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=70414
wasn't that :D
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On May 08 2013 01:27 wozzot wrote:Day 1 of the JCG opens ended a little while ago, surprised that this thread hasn't been bumped yet. Mizchin vs hitagi on Akilon Flats was a quite unique game VOD here: http://www.twitch.tv/japanesports/b/400369496
Missed the live but will watch now!
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This is badass!
The play wasn't the best, but... Boiiiiiiiiiiiidu Ray!! Boiiidu ray, BOOIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDU RAY!!!
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Master tournament starts now!
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The japanesports channel is broadcasting the LoL tourney; JCG SC2 is being broadcasted here: http://www.twitch.tv/matsujun
e: If anyone wants to know, this is the rest of the JCG schedule:
Master League Day 1 (today)
Saturday, May 11 12:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
Open Class Day 2
Monday, May 13 12:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
Master League Day 2
Sunday, May 19 12:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
Open Class Day 3
Monday, May 20 12:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
Master League Playoffs
Sunday, May 26 12:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
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Even in Japan, Fantasy GG timing.
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Terran mech vs. Tempest/Carrier, only in Japan
e: And mech loses again
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Like iNcontroL keeps on saying, Terran, you've got a free scouting resource. Instead of being greedy by using all that command center energy on mules, use them on scans if you feel something's weird.
Tempest carrier should be pretty easy to sniff out especially if you see the fleet beacon and two stargates, as well as a weirdly tiny Protoss main army.
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