EPTChinese players left out of WCS America Qualifier - Page 13
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E.L.V.I.S
Belgium458 Posts
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shadymmj
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Goldfish
2230 Posts
On April 21 2013 11:28 Assirra wrote: Don't see how you can blame Blizzard for this tbh. They made this whole tournament system and were hoping at least the qualifiers could be arranged by the tournament organizers they put in charge for it. Guess they were wrong and next time they have to make everything and people will boo once more when a certain issue arrived cause of their then locked qualification system. What I mean is how hard would it for Blizzard to say anyone that accepts the job has to run the qualification system across <x> days with at least <x> brackets with at least <x> players with or without requirements like Masters league or higher? Blizzard just gave MLG the deal and didn't tell them what they did with it (or what they can or can't do). They already set up how Premier and Challenger league works, how about Qualifications too? People were complaining that MLG set up an entrance fee at $20 but yet the problem wasn't MLG, the problem was why was MLG allowed to do that in the first place? (Though I am okay with an entrance fee, but $20 was too high. An entrance fee would mean that only serious players would try out.) Why isn't Blizzard handling and enforcing how things should be run? 'm not saying they should run it themselves but they should at least tell them to do it this way or that way. On April 21 2013 12:26 shadymmj wrote: i'm going to be the devil's advocate here and say that "diamond noobs" are just as deserving as MVP etc. when the regional tournament is first come first serve. there's nothing inherently wrong with that as it theoretically gives all interested parties an equal chance to participate. Counter to your devil's advocate - Well "diamond noobs" will waste everyone's time when they qualify (or more realistically, when they meet an actual pro player in the qualifiers... unless the actual pros couldn't get into the qualifier in the first place and the qualifiers are just filled with random ladder players >.>) and get stomped in the actual tournament by actual pro players. Now, I'm not saying random ladder players shouldn't have a chance but a minimum of Masters or higher, or a small entrance fee like $5-10 (MLG's initial $20 was ridiculously high) would at least allow people who are serious about trying to compete to win to participate. | ||
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Son of Gnome
United States777 Posts
On April 21 2013 12:26 shadymmj wrote: i'm going to be the devil's advocate here and say that "diamond noobs" are just as deserving as MVP etc. when the regional tournament is first come first serve. there's nothing inherently wrong with that as it theoretically gives all interested parties an equal chance to participate. I disagree Blizzard hosts these tournaments to help boost up the NA scene and potential give players a chance at making a name for themselves. A diamond player has no chance at this and honestly they are just wasting space that should go for more skilled players who commit more time and effort into the game. | ||
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E.L.V.I.S
Belgium458 Posts
On April 21 2013 12:30 Son of Gnome wrote: I disagree Blizzard hosts these tournaments to help boost up the NA scene and potential give players a chance at making a name for themselves. A diamond player has no chance at this and honestly they are just wasting space that should go for more skilled players who commit more time and effort into the game. MVP deserves more than diamonds guys... | ||
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twndomn
399 Posts
When Blizzard was doing BlizzCon, China has couple players got their visa denied. When WCS/IEM was being hosted in China, same could be done onto the foreigner players. Remember one IEM event had to cancelled, due to too many protests in China? Bottom line, it's too troublesome to handle events with problematic Chinese players who may or may not get their visa denied. In that case, the tournament organizers had to contact replacement in short amount of time, not worth the effort. | ||
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
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zev318
Canada4306 Posts
On April 21 2013 12:36 twndomn wrote: I really don't see the problem. When Blizzard was doing BlizzCon, China has couple players got their visa denied. When WCS/IEM was being hosted in China, same could be done onto the foreigner players. Remember one IEM event had to cancelled, due to too many protests in China? Bottom line, it's too troublesome to handle events with problematic Chinese players who may or may not get their visa denied. In that case, the tournament organizers had to contact replacement in short amount of time, not worth the effort. sure lets never invite chinese players or some europeans because their visas MIGHT not get approved. lets run things based on things that MIGHT happen. sounds good. in other news, it MIGHT rain tomorrow so im not gonna go outside. | ||
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
On April 21 2013 12:36 twndomn wrote: I really don't see the problem. When Blizzard was doing BlizzCon, China has couple players got their visa denied. When WCS/IEM was being hosted in China, same could be done onto the foreigner players. Remember one IEM event had to cancelled, due to too many protests in China? Bottom line, it's too troublesome to handle events with problematic Chinese players who may or may not get their visa denied. In that case, the tournament organizers had to contact replacement in short amount of time, not worth the effort. the IEM was the problem between china and japan so the japanese event not happened in china that weekend, and iem was supposed to be AT that japanese event so it has nothing to do with any of the other problems ... | ||
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
On April 21 2013 12:43 zev318 wrote: sure lets never invite chinese players or some europeans because their visas MIGHT not get approved. lets run things based on things that MIGHT happen. sounds good. in other news, it MIGHT rain tomorrow so im not gonna outside. jaeh the orga should invite them and talk to the gouv. right NOW for possibility for visa etc etc ,... cant be so hard to get a sportman even esportman in a country ... its not like they are poor farmer who would stay xD usa have always crazy visashit going ^^ | ||
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yuxiyulanhua
United States2 Posts
What a nice asian WCS championship~ | ||
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jalen
Australia222 Posts
On April 21 2013 12:36 twndomn wrote: I really don't see the problem. When Blizzard was doing BlizzCon, China has couple players got their visa denied. When WCS/IEM was being hosted in China, same could be done onto the foreigner players. Remember one IEM event had to cancelled, due to too many protests in China? Bottom line, it's too troublesome to handle events with problematic Chinese players who may or may not get their visa denied. In that case, the tournament organizers had to contact replacement in short amount of time, not worth the effort. So? what you are saying is not making any sense. | ||
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LighT.
Canada4501 Posts
They've always been money grabbing showing favoritism all over running the things however they want as long as they profit off of it most... I'm not surprised at all. | ||
NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
On April 21 2013 12:20 E.L.V.I.S wrote: Entry fee would have make a lot of sense, to only people that really want to try will commit to pay the fee people boycotted it so it got cut. | ||
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
On April 21 2013 13:00 jalen wrote: So? what you are saying is not making any sense. He has a point, it is extremely difficult for Chinese people to get visas into USA, people get rejected for no reason at all and no recourse. | ||
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matt93
Australia32 Posts
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Nerski
United States1095 Posts
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
MLG is just a NA operation accustomed to operating on the assumption that they are a NA operation. blizzard literally dropped the baton in (not properly) handing them this new situation of non-NA players getting into the tourney, for WCS which is something that's intended to represent all sc2 players worldwide. this is a sudden and implicit expansion of their mission/goal. MLG wants to develop the NA scene, which is fine. blizzard's wcs arrangement however, pretty much leaves non-korean asian players with nowhere to go but NA servers. | ||
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jalen
Australia222 Posts
On April 21 2013 13:20 matt93 wrote: lot of Australian people I know who signed up also didn't get in, it's the luck that comes with a 512 player bracket I guess, they rather put in diamonds who lose 2-0 to everyone than players who can stand their ground -.- MLG seeded EG guys, and see the EG guys' performance. | ||
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