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On April 17 2013 02:41 Nirel wrote:
Does no one else care that code s is now only 20,000 dollars?
$20,000 + regional season final money
So if the Code S champion is the worst player in the regional finals, then he will only make $21,500. If you are confident that the Code S champion is actually the best player in the world, then he will make $60,000 by bringing down the season final championship.
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On April 17 2013 02:36 MVTaylor wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2013 02:28 LighT. wrote:On April 17 2013 02:19 Prog455 wrote:On April 17 2013 01:40 LighT. wrote:On April 17 2013 01:33 MVTaylor wrote:On April 17 2013 01:24 LighT. wrote:
It's essentially a trade off.
It's either..
DO YOU WANT MORE REPRESENTATIVES FROM OTHER NATIONS OTHER THAN KOREA?
or....
DO YOU WANT TO SEE MORE HIGHER LEVEL COMPETITION? No it fucking isn't for god sake. Before this year WCS announcement we had the GSL and nothing for foreigners and after ti we STILL have the GSL, some tournaments MOSTLY for foreigners then 3 Seasonal Finals and 1 Yearly Grand final. So, we get more representatives from other countries, but obviously less than lass year AND we get more high level competition with more tournaments. No....youre wrong. So completely wrong You arent getting my freakin point. WCS: NA = 5 Seeds WCS: KR = 5 Seeds Although 5=5 may look like balance. IT ISNT. Am I complaining that there's a WCS:NA? NO. So dont bring that up. In the Seasons Finals and Blizzcon, by equating the seeds for each region, you're dropping off the level of competition. Tell me that a 5th place WCS:KR player is equivalent in skill to a 5th place of a WCS: EU Player. WCS: Korea or...might as well call it WCS: Asia CLEARLY deserves some sort of advantage or perks because it's the most competitive BY FAR. But there isnt. A Flash or a Rain = Goody? Thorzain?? Dont make me laugh. Again stressing my point: MORE REPRESENTATIVES FROM OTHER NATIONS HAS A INVERT RELATIONHIP TO THE LEVEL OF COMPETITION IN THE SEASON FINALS. Get real dude. There is currently as many GSL Code S Gold medals in WCS EU Premier as there is in Code S. And why would you assume someone like Goody will be in top 5? It would more likely be something like: Mvp, MMM, Stephano, Naniwa (who made it to Code S ro8 twice in a row) and Ret. There is a pretty substantial difference between EU and NA, and quite of a few of the European players can beat Koreans, especially those Koreans who play in WCS NA. Oh..? Is that your argument? Since there's as many GSL Code S golde models as there is in Code S KR right now; suddenly its justified? Is that how it works in your model? I guess if you watn to perceive it that way... We can see that clearly MVP + 4 Euros is clearly superior to Flash/Rain/Innovation/Parting/Life/Bomber since they have a combined 1 Gold Model in total Oh yes.. MMA..the washed up guy who hasnt done a thing for ages... Ahh who could forget Stephano..who put up a mere 50% winrate vs mid-tier koreans and got his butt kicked in Code S. Ret....ah yes ret...the guy who got completely demolished by Flash in MLG where it looked like a grand masters player vs a silver leaguer. Naniwa. I'll give you that. He's an unknown at the moment. Which is why I didnt list him. I respect his skill however. If blizzard thinks MVP + Naniwa + 3 either washed up Koreans or Euros = 5 Top Tier Code S players They're delusional. MMA..the guy joint 8th in FGSTL points Stephano, who requalified for Code S from the Up and Downs ahead of players such as Lure, Trust, EffOrt, Rying, Center, Killer, NesTea, HerO, noblesse, LabyRinth, aLive, Bbyong, Sniper and ByuN Ret... the guy who finished in the same position as PartinG and viOLet at the first HotS SC2 tournament. You are so RELENTLESSLY negative it's horrible. I hope you have so little pride for your country and region in all aspects of your life as you're displaying here.
So being 8th in FGSTL points means something now...
I guess then Yonghwa should be Code S champion by that standards and during his peak, deserves to have his name put in place with the greats like MC/MVP/Leenock etc.
Stephano?
Look at his up and Downs group...Lol..
Yonghwa wasnt even playing...
his level of competition was MKP who he lost to..
And then the other two was Lure and Trust....Trust...a CJ no namer.
and he still BARELY made it.
Finishing in the same position in a tournament doesnt make Ret a good player. Lol...
I have every reason to complain about it because they are justifiable reasons to complain about.
And no one has given me one justification of why I'm wrong thus far.
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On April 17 2013 02:41 Nirel wrote:
Does no one else care that code s is now only 20,000 dollars?
GSL is indeed demoted in every way, prestige, prize, players and even the tournament frequency.
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On April 17 2013 02:43 Branman wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2013 02:41 Nirel wrote:
Does no one else care that code s is now only 20,000 dollars? $20,000 + regional season final money So if the Code S champion is the worst player in the regional finals, then he will only make $21,500. If you are confident that the Code S champion is actually the best player in the world, then he will make $60,000 by bringing down the season final championship.
I believe you mean season finals. But that's not GSL, that's Blizzard's Frankenstein tournament.
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Why is it called... challenger league? Do we really have to bait things from LoL?!? Really blizzard...
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On April 17 2013 02:43 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2013 02:34 Branman wrote:On April 17 2013 02:32 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On April 17 2013 02:15 Branman wrote:On April 17 2013 02:12 LighT. wrote:On April 17 2013 02:07 rQdjay wrote:On April 17 2013 01:57 LighT. wrote:On April 17 2013 01:47 Branman wrote:On April 17 2013 01:44 LighT. wrote:On April 17 2013 01:39 Branman wrote:
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The whole moving to NA/Eu is a big deal. If Koreans want to become a part of the NA/EU scene, they are welcome. We could use more players like Polt.
Last I checked, not too many Koreans signed up for the WCS/NA qualifier due to actual obligations. EG-TL can't really participate in the qualifier because it goes from midnight KST until 10:00 am KST the night after a Proleague match. The tower-defense that is the EU qualification tournament right now is also proving that you really can't expect to qualify for another continent's code s by playing a tournament all night. As you mentioned. They cant cause of SPL/GSTL obligations. Especially the SPL teams which has their league spanning the entire year. The greatest benefits are the koreans in foreigner teams because they have more flexibility and leverage. korean teams arent going to suddenly pack their belongings and move to NA , throwing away GSTL/SPL just for a crack at easier competition in WCS:NA. The logistics of that is inane.. Knowing that competition will always be 4-5x greater in WCS:KR than WCS: EU/NA, they should have sorted it accordingly. The thing is... the stated goal of blizzard is to make Koreans and their team houses move to EU/NA. The point is to make SC2 a more global game where your skill level isn't dependent on where you live. If this balances the ladder where the top of the Korean ladder is at the same level as the NA/EU ladder, then mission accomplished. So youre saying the ultimate goal of this is... they want to promote other korean teams to get VISAs for all their players/coaches etc Move into a completely new environment where they will face great cultural barrier/communication/ more expenses + tax Just to even out the playing field? That's not happening. Not happening because again, its not logical to do so. You want to establish team houses in EU/NA? Make a freakin team league..a competent one where its held offline, has large prize pool. You dont necessarily have to take away anything from the KR scene to cultivate growth on other regions but that is quite apparent from what I see right nojw. Jesus dude could you be more negative about this? Do you not understand that Blizzard investing $1.6 Million dollars to give to the players is a great thing for our scene? And they are clearly going to improve the system overtime. Hell it only began a couple of weeks ago and people like you are going batshit crazy about everything Blizzard does saying it is horrible and is going to kill the Korean scene. That obviously isn't true. The fact is that at the end of the road players will earn tens/hundreds of thousands of dollars. Also they are making sure that up and coming players have actually have a GOAL to try and get results. Before this there is no way that a high masters or a low gm would ever think about completely dropping their school/job to try and pursuit becoming a pro gamer. And ontop of that Blizzard is giving more money to tournaments to increase production value. Be grateful for what Blizzard is doing and the fact that they are actively trying to grow our scene and benefit the players. Give it some time man. I was one of the few defending the idea of WCS when TB/Catz were ranting about it because the details werent in place but now..I can see why there's a large reason to complain about. I'm not saying Blizzard investing 1.6million dollars is terrible. It's great! Blizzard cares! What my complaint is that they put in a system that's obviously flawed. Again; you dont need to take away things from the Korean scene for global growth. This is whats happening right now with the new WCS system. Their idea of growth is "give and take" Nothing is stopping the Korean scene from holding their own weekend tournaments. GOM worked with IPL and learned how to hold something like that, so it's not Blizzard's fault if the Korean scene doesn't want to expand their own tournament scene. Actually there is something stopping them. SC2 is not very big in Korea. I think if such an event were profitable, they would undoubtedly have done it by now, but it clearly isn't. Remember the ESV Weekly tournaments? The ESports Monthly Cup? Tournaments that offered a fair bit of money for up-and-coming Code B/A players and gave them just a bit more exposure, while at the same time providing some more quality entertainment and high level play for the spectators at home. You know what happened? They went under because almost nobody cared to watch them. GSL and StarLeague have the advantage of prestige which makes even more casual viewers tune in. The same stuff happened to the NA equivalents. It's not a Korea-centric thing, but a global phenomena. I can see where you're coming from with this, it's true that none of them did all too well, but at the same time they're not very comparable. Sometimes you would get ZOTACs or Playhem Dailies or Go4SC2 cups break several thousand concurrents even going back as far as 2011, back when Khaldor and ESLtv used to cast them. Meanwhile, I've rarely seen the Korean online tournaments of the same daily/weekly scale break more than a few hundred. So I think it's fair to say, it kind of is a Korean-related problem in this sense.
Well, that's a very big difference. Korea in 2011 still had Brood War on TV. This is the first year where you actually have high-level SC2 being promoted in Korea. It wasn't even until this agreement was reached that the GSL was broadcast on OGN. Having both GSL and Proleague on OGN is a big deal as far as making SC2 a bigger deal.
That said, I'm more of the opinion that it isn't really the foreign scene's duty to support the Korean scene. Most of those views on the ESV weeklies were international viewers. If SC2 isn't sustainable in Korea, then oh well, we'll still have the international scene where the viewers are.
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On April 17 2013 02:47 Charlie.Sheen wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2013 02:43 Branman wrote:On April 17 2013 02:41 Nirel wrote:
Does no one else care that code s is now only 20,000 dollars? $20,000 + regional season final money So if the Code S champion is the worst player in the regional finals, then he will only make $21,500. If you are confident that the Code S champion is actually the best player in the world, then he will make $60,000 by bringing down the season final championship. I believe you mean season finals. But that's not GSL, that's Blizzard's Frankenstein tournament.
GSL is now a part of Blizzard's tournament structure. To ignore the rest of the season is to simply ignore part of the prize.
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On April 17 2013 02:36 MVTaylor wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2013 02:28 LighT. wrote:On April 17 2013 02:19 Prog455 wrote:On April 17 2013 01:40 LighT. wrote:On April 17 2013 01:33 MVTaylor wrote:On April 17 2013 01:24 LighT. wrote:
It's essentially a trade off.
It's either..
DO YOU WANT MORE REPRESENTATIVES FROM OTHER NATIONS OTHER THAN KOREA?
or....
DO YOU WANT TO SEE MORE HIGHER LEVEL COMPETITION? No it fucking isn't for god sake. Before this year WCS announcement we had the GSL and nothing for foreigners and after ti we STILL have the GSL, some tournaments MOSTLY for foreigners then 3 Seasonal Finals and 1 Yearly Grand final. So, we get more representatives from other countries, but obviously less than lass year AND we get more high level competition with more tournaments. No....youre wrong. So completely wrong You arent getting my freakin point. WCS: NA = 5 Seeds WCS: KR = 5 Seeds Although 5=5 may look like balance. IT ISNT. Am I complaining that there's a WCS:NA? NO. So dont bring that up. In the Seasons Finals and Blizzcon, by equating the seeds for each region, you're dropping off the level of competition. Tell me that a 5th place WCS:KR player is equivalent in skill to a 5th place of a WCS: EU Player. WCS: Korea or...might as well call it WCS: Asia CLEARLY deserves some sort of advantage or perks because it's the most competitive BY FAR. But there isnt. A Flash or a Rain = Goody? Thorzain?? Dont make me laugh. Again stressing my point: MORE REPRESENTATIVES FROM OTHER NATIONS HAS A INVERT RELATIONHIP TO THE LEVEL OF COMPETITION IN THE SEASON FINALS. Get real dude. There is currently as many GSL Code S Gold medals in WCS EU Premier as there is in Code S. And why would you assume someone like Goody will be in top 5? It would more likely be something like: Mvp, MMM, Stephano, Naniwa (who made it to Code S ro8 twice in a row) and Ret. There is a pretty substantial difference between EU and NA, and quite of a few of the European players can beat Koreans, especially those Koreans who play in WCS NA. Oh..? Is that your argument? Since there's as many GSL Code S golde models as there is in Code S KR right now; suddenly its justified? Is that how it works in your model? I guess if you watn to perceive it that way... We can see that clearly MVP + 4 Euros is clearly superior to Flash/Rain/Innovation/Parting/Life/Bomber since they have a combined 1 Gold Model in total Oh yes.. MMA..the washed up guy who hasnt done a thing for ages... Ahh who could forget Stephano..who put up a mere 50% winrate vs mid-tier koreans and got his butt kicked in Code S. Ret....ah yes ret...the guy who got completely demolished by Flash in MLG where it looked like a grand masters player vs a silver leaguer. Naniwa. I'll give you that. He's an unknown at the moment. Which is why I didnt list him. I respect his skill however. If blizzard thinks MVP + Naniwa + 3 either washed up Koreans or Euros = 5 Top Tier Code S players They're delusional. MMA..the guy joint 8th in FGSTL points Stephano, who requalified for Code S from the Up and Downs ahead of players such as Lure, Trust, EffOrt, Rying, Center, Killer, NesTea, HerO, noblesse, LabyRinth, aLive, Bbyong, Sniper and ByuN Ret... the guy who finished in the same position as PartinG and viOLet at the first HotS SC2 tournament. You are so RELENTLESSLY negative it's horrible. I hope you have so little pride for your country and region in all aspects of your life as you're displaying here.
Wow mate you have some serious issues, if you must make these wild assumptions about someone who's just presenting his case. Meanwhile, your own case fares much worse than his, since you look at a minuscule sample size of games.
First off, MMA has only played 2 games in GSTL. Granted, he won both of them, but how can you possibly draw any conclusions based on that? And Fantasy GSTL points? Really? That's the best you can conjure? Don't get me wrong, I like the guy, I want him to get back on top, I was a huge fan during his 2011 domination spree, but he's not been a top contender for so very long...
For Stephano, you choose to look at his Up and Down results. I could be nitpicky and tell you that he was virtually in a 4-player group with higher chances of advancement than his peers in 5 or 6-player groups, but I won't. Instead I'll point to the fact that so far in Major lan events in HotS he lost 0-3 in IEM and 0-3 in MLG. Let's say he's looking a bit shaky at the moment.
And as for Ret, I haven't seen enough of him to really make a call yet.
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On April 17 2013 02:45 Charlie.Sheen wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2013 02:41 Nirel wrote:
Does no one else care that code s is now only 20,000 dollars? GSL is indeed demoted in every way, prestige, prize, players and even the tournament frequency.
Amen brother.
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On April 17 2013 02:47 Charlie.Sheen wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2013 02:43 Branman wrote:On April 17 2013 02:41 Nirel wrote:
Does no one else care that code s is now only 20,000 dollars? $20,000 + regional season final money So if the Code S champion is the worst player in the regional finals, then he will only make $21,500. If you are confident that the Code S champion is actually the best player in the world, then he will make $60,000 by bringing down the season final championship. I believe you mean season finals. But that's not GSL, that's Blizzard's Frankenstein tournament.
Who cares what the brand name is? If GSL was re-branded completely to be "Blizzard WCS Korea" and we just forgot about the GSL, would it actually make a difference in the scene?
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Everyone should stop whining so much.
I can see what blizzard is trying to do here and quite frankly, i think there plan will work. Code S and A everywhere with a big final between regional champions. It really looks good. Everything is gonna work out fine after a transition period im sure
I like the qualifiers very much allready. 30k+ viewers every day for amateurs that are being casted by pro's... thats fucking freakin amazing!
Yes, code s kr is not code s anymore, this because we have a world cup now This wcs format will be awesome.
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On April 17 2013 02:52 govie wrote:Everyone should stop whining so much. I can see what blizzard is trying to do here and quite frankly, i think there plan will work. Code S and A everywhere with a big final between regional champions. It really looks good. Everything is gonna work out fine after a transition period im sure I like the qualifiers very much allready. 30k+ viewers every day for amateurs that are being casted by pro's... thats fucking freakin amazing! Yes, code s kr is not code s anymore, this because we have a world cup now This wcs format will be awesome.
The result of this:
Esports growth NA: increase
Esports growth: EU: increase
Esports growth KR: decrease substantially.
Blizzard: appease to global market
Blizzard: does not perceive Korea as mecca of esports.
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On April 17 2013 02:52 Branman wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2013 02:47 Charlie.Sheen wrote:On April 17 2013 02:43 Branman wrote:On April 17 2013 02:41 Nirel wrote:
Does no one else care that code s is now only 20,000 dollars? $20,000 + regional season final money So if the Code S champion is the worst player in the regional finals, then he will only make $21,500. If you are confident that the Code S champion is actually the best player in the world, then he will make $60,000 by bringing down the season final championship. I believe you mean season finals. But that's not GSL, that's Blizzard's Frankenstein tournament. Who cares what the brand name is? If GSL was re-branded completely to be "Blizzard WCS Korea" and we just forgot about the GSL, would it actually make a difference in the scene?
Then you should read what Nirel wrote. We are talking about code S, not SC2 scene or even Korean SC2 scene. If you don't care, then you shouldn't reply.
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20k for code s? really?
Don't like this decision at all.
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On April 17 2013 02:50 TestSubject893 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2013 02:47 Charlie.Sheen wrote:On April 17 2013 02:43 Branman wrote:On April 17 2013 02:41 Nirel wrote:
Does no one else care that code s is now only 20,000 dollars? $20,000 + regional season final money So if the Code S champion is the worst player in the regional finals, then he will only make $21,500. If you are confident that the Code S champion is actually the best player in the world, then he will make $60,000 by bringing down the season final championship. I believe you mean season finals. But that's not GSL, that's Blizzard's Frankenstein tournament. GSL is now a part of Blizzard's tournament structure. To ignore the rest of the season is to simply ignore part of the prize.
Then it just means you don't care, some people do care, like Nirel. That's why he's asking whether there is someone like him.
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On April 17 2013 02:50 Branman wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2013 02:43 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On April 17 2013 02:34 Branman wrote:On April 17 2013 02:32 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On April 17 2013 02:15 Branman wrote:On April 17 2013 02:12 LighT. wrote:On April 17 2013 02:07 rQdjay wrote:On April 17 2013 01:57 LighT. wrote:On April 17 2013 01:47 Branman wrote:On April 17 2013 01:44 LighT. wrote:
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As you mentioned.
They cant cause of SPL/GSTL obligations. Especially the SPL teams which has their league spanning the entire year.
The greatest benefits are the koreans in foreigner teams because they have more flexibility and leverage.
korean teams arent going to suddenly pack their belongings and move to NA , throwing away GSTL/SPL just for a crack at easier competition in WCS:NA. The logistics of that is inane..
Knowing that competition will always be 4-5x greater in WCS:KR than WCS: EU/NA, they should have sorted it accordingly.
The thing is... the stated goal of blizzard is to make Koreans and their team houses move to EU/NA. The point is to make SC2 a more global game where your skill level isn't dependent on where you live. If this balances the ladder where the top of the Korean ladder is at the same level as the NA/EU ladder, then mission accomplished. So youre saying the ultimate goal of this is... they want to promote other korean teams to get VISAs for all their players/coaches etc Move into a completely new environment where they will face great cultural barrier/communication/ more expenses + tax Just to even out the playing field? That's not happening. Not happening because again, its not logical to do so. You want to establish team houses in EU/NA? Make a freakin team league..a competent one where its held offline, has large prize pool. You dont necessarily have to take away anything from the KR scene to cultivate growth on other regions but that is quite apparent from what I see right nojw. Jesus dude could you be more negative about this? Do you not understand that Blizzard investing $1.6 Million dollars to give to the players is a great thing for our scene? And they are clearly going to improve the system overtime. Hell it only began a couple of weeks ago and people like you are going batshit crazy about everything Blizzard does saying it is horrible and is going to kill the Korean scene. That obviously isn't true. The fact is that at the end of the road players will earn tens/hundreds of thousands of dollars. Also they are making sure that up and coming players have actually have a GOAL to try and get results. Before this there is no way that a high masters or a low gm would ever think about completely dropping their school/job to try and pursuit becoming a pro gamer. And ontop of that Blizzard is giving more money to tournaments to increase production value. Be grateful for what Blizzard is doing and the fact that they are actively trying to grow our scene and benefit the players. Give it some time man. I was one of the few defending the idea of WCS when TB/Catz were ranting about it because the details werent in place but now..I can see why there's a large reason to complain about. I'm not saying Blizzard investing 1.6million dollars is terrible. It's great! Blizzard cares! What my complaint is that they put in a system that's obviously flawed. Again; you dont need to take away things from the Korean scene for global growth. This is whats happening right now with the new WCS system. Their idea of growth is "give and take" Nothing is stopping the Korean scene from holding their own weekend tournaments. GOM worked with IPL and learned how to hold something like that, so it's not Blizzard's fault if the Korean scene doesn't want to expand their own tournament scene. Actually there is something stopping them. SC2 is not very big in Korea. I think if such an event were profitable, they would undoubtedly have done it by now, but it clearly isn't. Remember the ESV Weekly tournaments? The ESports Monthly Cup? Tournaments that offered a fair bit of money for up-and-coming Code B/A players and gave them just a bit more exposure, while at the same time providing some more quality entertainment and high level play for the spectators at home. You know what happened? They went under because almost nobody cared to watch them. GSL and StarLeague have the advantage of prestige which makes even more casual viewers tune in. The same stuff happened to the NA equivalents. It's not a Korea-centric thing, but a global phenomena. I can see where you're coming from with this, it's true that none of them did all too well, but at the same time they're not very comparable. Sometimes you would get ZOTACs or Playhem Dailies or Go4SC2 cups break several thousand concurrents even going back as far as 2011, back when Khaldor and ESLtv used to cast them. Meanwhile, I've rarely seen the Korean online tournaments of the same daily/weekly scale break more than a few hundred. So I think it's fair to say, it kind of is a Korean-related problem in this sense. Well, that's a very big difference. Korea in 2011 still had Brood War on TV. This is the first year where you actually have high-level SC2 being promoted in Korea. It wasn't even until this agreement was reached that the GSL was broadcast on OGN. Having both GSL and Proleague on OGN is a big deal as far as making SC2 a bigger deal. That said, I'm more of the opinion that it isn't really the foreign scene's duty to support the Korean scene. Most of those views on the ESV weeklies were international viewers. If SC2 isn't sustainable in Korea, then oh well, we'll still have the international scene where the viewers are.
See, I agree with you on the idea that it isn't the foreign scene's duty to support the Korean one. Ideally, Blizzard, GOM and OGN should all work together to make it happen. So far on Blizzard's side, things are looking pretty grim.
But here's the real kicker. You can't just say "if SC2 isn't sustainable in Korea then oh well". The reason you can't say this is because if SC2 isn't sustainable in Korea, you'll have a lot of Korean pros either retire or join western teams, where they will no longer benefit from the coaching and practice regimen of their Korean teamhouses. This will consequently lead to a steady decline in player skill at the top level, simply because they will no longer be taken care of with maids, chefs, coaches and all that.
You have to look at it from this angle as well.
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Here's what I think: GSL pricepools so far have been hugely inflated and hoping that the game would catch on like BW did, but such growth hasn't happened, SC2 has stayed relatively niche. This was most apparent in the early open seasons with their huge price pools.
Along comes Blizzard with bags of money and a convenient format that gives them an excuse to downgrade the price pool, so of course they take it. The common audience reaction being "omg blizz u ruin our gsl", saves them a lot of trouble and face.
Since the GSL has an increased pricepool in the lower brackets, I see no reason why they couldn't do the same in the higher leagues. The fact that they CHOOSE NOT TO speaks volumes.
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On April 17 2013 02:52 govie wrote:Everyone should stop whining so much. I can see what blizzard is trying to do here and quite frankly, i think there plan will work. Code S and A everywhere with a big final between regional champions. It really looks good. Everything is gonna work out fine after a transition period im sure I like the qualifiers very much allready. 30k+ viewers every day for amateurs that are being casted by pro's... thats fucking freakin amazing! Yes, code s kr is not code s anymore, this because we have a world cup now This wcs format will be awesome.
I don't know what you are watching, but even if you add up all the streams, it's not 30k..maybe 20k at peaks...and there is overlap (especially today with NASL and ESL doing coverage)
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Blizzard logic: "we feel the competition at cross region season finals is fiercer than at the gsl, so we'll reward it more".
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On April 17 2013 02:54 LighT. wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2013 02:52 govie wrote:Everyone should stop whining so much. I can see what blizzard is trying to do here and quite frankly, i think there plan will work. Code S and A everywhere with a big final between regional champions. It really looks good. Everything is gonna work out fine after a transition period im sure I like the qualifiers very much allready. 30k+ viewers every day for amateurs that are being casted by pro's... thats fucking freakin amazing! Yes, code s kr is not code s anymore, this because we have a world cup now This wcs format will be awesome. The result of this: Esports growth NA: increase Esports growth: EU: increase Esports growth KR: decrease substantially.Blizzard: appease to global market Blizzard: does not perceive Korea as mecca of esports.
Agree with everything except :
1. Esports SC2 scene in korea is allready huge (sometimes growth is hard when u are allready so huge)
2. If i was blizzard i would see the world as the mecca of sc2 and not 1 region.
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