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WCS 2013 Format, Players, Prizes and Point Details - Page 11

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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
April 16 2013 18:34 GMT
#201
So unless I am mistaken only 8 players can qualify per season so wow this is really retarded. Thought they were making it just like GSL but I guess not zzzzz.
When I think of something else, something will go here
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
April 16 2013 18:36 GMT
#202
On April 17 2013 02:50 TestSubject893 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 02:47 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
On April 17 2013 02:43 Branman wrote:
On April 17 2013 02:41 Nirel wrote:
Does no one else care that code s is now only 20,000 dollars?


$20,000 + regional season final money

So if the Code S champion is the worst player in the regional finals, then he will only make $21,500. If you are confident that the Code S champion is actually the best player in the world, then he will make $60,000 by bringing down the season final championship.


I believe you mean season finals. But that's not GSL, that's Blizzard's Frankenstein tournament.


GSL is now a part of Blizzard's tournament structure. To ignore the rest of the season is to simply ignore part of the prize.


There was something special about the GSL, it was all about preparation. Season finals will be weekend tournaments. There's a huge difference in how much a GSL final means now, when the runner up will just get another chance at a bigger payday in a couple of weeks in a weekend tournament. Hell, with bracket luck, he may never even have to play the guy who beat him in the finals.
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
April 16 2013 18:37 GMT
#203
On April 17 2013 03:34 blade55555 wrote:
So unless I am mistaken only 8 players can qualify per season so wow this is really retarded. Thought they were making it just like GSL but I guess not zzzzz.


They will. Its just first season. They have to start somewhere ad as i see it. It's lookin good man!!:D
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DeathProfessor
Profile Joined March 2012
United States1052 Posts
April 16 2013 18:46 GMT
#204
People wayyy too fixated on prize pool. The real money is in sponsors, where the WCS does really well is highlighting players that are unknown right now, they can make livable salaries off of these. Korean may get a lot of money in other ways. Also EU and NA players have big opportunities.

Hell I bet if PandaTank qualified he would get a team based off the WCS! So there may be other ways players will make money then prizes.
Wunder
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2950 Posts
April 16 2013 18:47 GMT
#205
On April 17 2013 03:37 govie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 03:34 blade55555 wrote:
So unless I am mistaken only 8 players can qualify per season so wow this is really retarded. Thought they were making it just like GSL but I guess not zzzzz.


They will. Its just first season. They have to start somewhere ad as i see it. It's lookin good man!!:D


Well for the next seasons the qualifiers will only allow 8 players in per season, that's what they've stated and showed in their graphics anyway.
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Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
April 16 2013 18:54 GMT
#206
All seems good to me.
Pure Intention
Profile Joined April 2013
Russian Federation18 Posts
April 16 2013 18:54 GMT
#207
Talking about too many koreans, well remember WCG's, I mean it was usually something about 2-3 koreans, they did dominate, but most of the other games were boring and not worth watching, people just checked the results to see if their favorites have dropped any maps or no. I'm in for more better players, doesn't matter where they are from.
The thing I don't like is BO1 in qualifiers, I mean some strange cheese might end some strong players run, because the game itself allows it. I know it's time consuming, but what about blizzard creating some in-game brackets and extend qualifiers (why not? why should they be played in one day?), though they have a lot of chances overall, it's 4 qualifiers for each season.
But overall I'm looking forward for the tourney, it should be super fun.
IGComet
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada8 Posts
April 16 2013 19:06 GMT
#208
Nice
More GG, More Skill
Kylo55
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland64 Posts
April 16 2013 19:37 GMT
#209
There's smaller rotation in EU/NA because theres less talented players in EU/NA than in korea. Theres no point to change like 20 players in EU/NA when in those regions we have like 30-40 good players at all.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
April 16 2013 19:38 GMT
#210
With 750 points from Tier 1 tournaments, which is as much as 3rd place finish in Code S, Koreans on foreign teams have such a big advantage. Not only do they get to play in the easier NA league, they get a lot of extra points from Dreamhack etc which their teams will always send them to, but Koreans in Korean teams won't always be able to attend.
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
April 16 2013 19:46 GMT
#211
Play in an somewhat invite-only weekend tournament for MLG:
1st prize: 25k
Play in a 2-3 month tournament where all of Korea's players are invited in a long tournament:
1st prize: 20k


seems legit.
Branman
Profile Joined March 2013
United States203 Posts
April 16 2013 19:57 GMT
#212
On April 17 2013 04:46 LighT. wrote:
Play in an somewhat invite-only weekend tournament for MLG:
1st prize: 25k
Play in a 2-3 month tournament where all of Korea's players are invited in a long tournament:
1st prize: 20k


seems legit.


Play in a partially-qualified, partially-invite weekend tournament for IPL
1st prize: 40k
Play in a 2-3 month tournament where all of Korea's players are invited in a long tournament:
1st prize: 38k

Plus, that's 21.5k guaranteed if the GSL champion just forfeits all of the matches.
scypio
Profile Joined December 2011
Poland2127 Posts
April 16 2013 19:58 GMT
#213
On April 17 2013 04:46 LighT. wrote:
Play in an somewhat invite-only weekend tournament for MLG:
1st prize: 25k
Play in a 2-3 month tournament where all of Korea's players are invited in a long tournament:
1st prize: 20k


seems legit.


For a pro player it is better to have some confidence about his possible earnings. If someone manages to get into ro8 codeS and into the season finals - that's 11k $ each season without winning anything, earned just by being consistent.

And with 3+ seasons each year it should be enough to make a decent living almost anywhere in the world.

That seems pretty legit to me.
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MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-16 20:34:09
April 16 2013 19:59 GMT
#214
Points system is super, super terrible. Like, super unbelievably terrible. I could probably dedicate an article to picking apart all of the absolutely stupid things about it, but I won't (maybe), because it's not like going to all of that effort would change anything v_v

I posted this a couple of weeks ago, anticipating that this is exactly what would happen, and it's still relevant: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=406081

Every player currently in Code B (esp Korean) is completely fucked over, and every player in Code S is laughing, no questions asked, because Blizzard refused to be intelligent and creative with their point allocations and just went for the brain-dead approach that ignored the nature of tiering. Incredibly frustrating. I feel for the progamers who have to put up with it.

Here's something else to put it into perspective: A player who wins a GSL then immediately drops out of the GSL still has a decent shot of getting to the season final; if they win that then disappears from the face of the earth (retires even) they will still have more points than a player who gets 4 consecutive 2nd place finishes in the GSL. Also a player who goes 0-4 in the Code S Ro32 and 0-2 in their first Code A match to fall straight to Code B, walks away with equal amounts of points as the players who won every single Code A match that season.

Consistency, eh? That makes me laugh.
xuanzue
Profile Joined October 2010
Colombia1747 Posts
April 16 2013 20:16 GMT
#215
If Mangosix is sponsoring the gsl, where goes its money? the prizepool seems backed entirely by blizzard.
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YourAdHere
Profile Joined May 2011
United States216 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-16 20:18:00
April 16 2013 20:17 GMT
#216
Code S in NA/EU gets 24 new players a season. Code A gets 24 ex Code S, ranks 9-16 Code A and top 8 Code B for a prolonged up-down tournament.

Not sure what the complaint regarding player flow is.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-16 20:29:13
April 16 2013 20:22 GMT
#217
I wonder what qualifies as tier 1 and tier 2 non-WCS. If Dreamhack is tier 1 (and it really should be), they might just solve their problem of top-tier Korean attendance. As the point distribution for a tier 1 seems quite good. Although, the next one seems to be solving this problem already but there is still much to be desired in that regard from them.

==

on another note, with the current trajectory of qualified players and new knowledge on the point distribution...

I'm sticking to 14/16 Korean at the Grand Finals for Blizzcon =p. Maybe a full 16.
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
April 16 2013 20:26 GMT
#218
On April 17 2013 05:17 YourAdHere wrote:
Code S in NA/EU gets 24 new players a season. Code A gets 24 ex Code S, ranks 9-16 Code A and top 8 Code B for a prolonged up-down tournament.

Not sure what the complaint regarding player flow is.


Only 8 new players can qualify at all. For example if you are in code A only 8 of those players will be knocked out instead of half like GSL. So only 8 new players can ever qualify at a time when it should be 16.

Hope I was able to clarify for you what everyone is talking about ^_^.
When I think of something else, something will go here
YourAdHere
Profile Joined May 2011
United States216 Posts
April 16 2013 20:28 GMT
#219
On April 17 2013 05:26 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 05:17 YourAdHere wrote:
Code S in NA/EU gets 24 new players a season. Code A gets 24 ex Code S, ranks 9-16 Code A and top 8 Code B for a prolonged up-down tournament.

Not sure what the complaint regarding player flow is.


Only 8 new players can qualify at all. For example if you are in code A only 8 of those players will be knocked out instead of half like GSL. So only 8 new players can ever qualify at a time when it should be 16.

Hope I was able to clarify for you what everyone is talking about ^_^.


But that's because Korea has a tremendous depth of semi-pro players whereas EU and NA simply doesn't.
Elairec
Profile Joined June 2011
United States410 Posts
April 16 2013 20:34 GMT
#220
so because eu/na isn't quite as deep in the talent pool, more up and comers should be snubbed?
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