Why do we want foreigners to compete with koreans? - Page 15

On April 05 2013 08:06 playa wrote:
So say I'm one of those people that only likes to watch the best of the best, and I believe Korea houses the best. Could I still watch Korean WCS events, and thus watch the best of the best but still have a thread to gripe in? If so, cool.

The irony is, if you allow Koreans to split up, you're still diluting the competition and will never be seeing the best of the best in any region... You would have to wait till the "global" finals to even have a shot at watching the best compete against each other. If you make the regions have anything to do with its name, say maybe they have maybe visited the region once in their life, then the best players will always be playing in Korea for the foreseeable future, sans maybe stephano. You actually give national scenes a chance to grow. The only potential loser is someone running a tournament that is now quivering over how many thousands he's going to make. Sorry if I'm lacking sympathy over that concern.

On April 05 2013 08:23 Thurken wrote:
All the popular games (popular among many countries), be it football, basketball or league of legend for esport are games were you don't only see the best players in the world compete but also the best players from your region. This makes the games very enjoyable because you can relate to the team and you don't need to see the best play all the time to enjoy the game (people never needed to see the best play to enjoy it, they needed to see the relatively best play, but it was not in the internet worldwide streaming era). The result is a game sustainable for many players and not only the very best in the world.
The thing is SC2 is a solo game which means that relating to the home player is more difficult... Maybe, solo games are meant to be played by only the very best...

On April 05 2013 09:26 Falling wrote:
@ furerkip
Why watch college ball of anything? Or state ball. Why do Canadians watch the CFL when they could just watch NFL? There should only be NHL, NFL, and FIFA World Cups. Everything else should fold because they don't have the top players so screw them.

Obviously the top league is going to draw the most eyes of any sport. But that doesn't mean no-one will watch regional leagues. It's more niche, but there is a place for it. But the lower tiers are pretty important for feeding into top the top leagues.

I think there is a place for regional starcraft in North America. Will it be as big as the GSL? Probably not and it shouldn't expect to be or try to spend that sort of money. But once the glut of international tournies pulling in Koreans burns out, we'll be left with the just the big tourneys. I think into that space, a solid regional league could start up- especially if there the drop in tourneys actually produces a few gaps when Starcraft 2 is not playing competively.

On April 05 2013 10:47 Ravensong170 wrote:
People need to calm down. I've said this numerous time. People have so much hate for the NA/EU scene. Personally, I stop watching sc2 when its just Koreans, (unless Hero, Sage, MKP are involved) because they have no emotion. Literally they seem like robots to me. I watch for the story, for the excitement of that. When Vibe beat Flying at MLG (forget which one) pr when Scarlett came out of nowhere or when Idra 2-0 RoRo at WCS. Those are exciting. When X Korean, plays Y Korean, its not exciting to me.

Before I get flamed for not wanting the best games, that's not it, its just for me I watch Esports not for the game, but for the entirety. The story behind the games and the games.

So yea if all regions were equally good at sc2, then sure that's the ideal situation. But its not. WCS is providing a way for NON-Koreans to play in tournaments where they won't get rofl stomped immediately. And yes I am one of the people who believes that the level of play from NA/EU will be better.

People need to stop the hate and just admit that this is good for esports, i know that's hard for so many people to do because Blizzard is the one organizing this, but this is growth. And that's what everyone wants right?

and before everyone jumps on the bandwagon of the MC whine/complaining, the whole system hasn't happened yet and the only tournament that has started is the GSL. CHill and wait for the season to fully kick in.

On April 05 2013 09:26 Falling wrote:
@ furerkip
Why watch college ball of anything? Or state ball. Why do Canadians watch the CFL when they could just watch NFL? There should only be NHL, NFL, and FIFA World Cups. Everything else should fold because they don't have the top players so screw them.

On April 05 2013 11:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:


Guys like White Ra, Stephano, Idra, Incontrol, Naniwa, Huk, Grubby, Demuslim and Catz might have personality sure.

but there's no way you can argue that players like Kas, Happy, Sase, Nerchio, Snute, Lucifron, Vibe, Vortix, Sen, Morrow, Thorzain are these big time personalities because they're not, they're just as faceless and boring as people as any Koreans are.

A lot of, if not the majority of top foreign players are equally are dull as personalities as the Alive's, Sniper's and Puma's of this world.

Also guys like MC, Mkp, Polt, Parting, Mvp, DRG, Nestea, Violet and others have a lot of personality/story to them.

On April 05 2013 11:45 WolfintheSheep wrote:

The difference between the boring Koreans and the boring Foreigners is that most foreigners still speak English, which means you can understand them.

It may seem like a small thing, but there's a large jump between watching a good player play, and watching a good player who you've watched commentate his ladder streaming.

On April 05 2013 11:49 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:


And what about guys like Lucifron, Vortix, Sen, Snute etc.. who pretty much only play the game, very minimal community interaction at all?