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On April 04 2013 17:46 lessQQmorePEWPEW wrote:
lol.. this is great at giving other regions a shot at the money. i get that koreans are the best but lets see the best of korea vs the rest of the regions instead of koreans just stomping.
What is the difference between those 2? The stomping will just take a bit longer.
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On April 04 2013 17:31 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2013 17:27 Aphasie wrote:
This degenerated into a koreans/best vs. foreigners/suck rather quickly...
To clarify, the issue at hand is more about the lack of WCS Asia representation outside of the current GSL format. There should be more than one avenue into the WCS than the one current tournament. Blizzard should have open bracket bi-weekly tours with a 5k or so USD cash prize in which the person with the most points get one (or two) of the five spots of that season. Solves the problem...
PS. Whatever happened to competing for the competitions sake and love of the game? In that regard, I salute both Sase and Naniwa! This is actually a great idea. The reason all the Korean dailies/weeklies are gone is because they weren't financially sustainable because there weren't many people willing to watch these mostly Code B/Code A players duke it out, even though it's these same tournaments that foreshadowed the ascent of TaeJa and Life. But with them being funded by Blizzard, this would no longer be an issue. Blizzard have a better tournament format, lesser known Koreans have a better shot at qualifying (at least it's there), Korean scene gets more money and a bit more exposure (since the content should be streamed for whoever's interested). But knowing Blizzard, they'll either not implement it or wait until it's too late... ._.
I'd hope everyone would read that post, but not many will.
It really is a good idea, people keep going on about how in NA/EU that WCS will give new/unknown players a way to establish themselves - it's the exact opposite in KR's current incarnation of WCS, it'll be the same same/similar players we've been seeing for the last year+, whilst implementing the suggestion above would allow unknowns to potentially shine(ie; Life, Taeja, Jajjkji and more from ESV's weeklys in 2011).
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On April 04 2013 17:52 snafoo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2013 17:31 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On April 04 2013 17:27 Aphasie wrote:
This degenerated into a koreans/best vs. foreigners/suck rather quickly...
To clarify, the issue at hand is more about the lack of WCS Asia representation outside of the current GSL format. There should be more than one avenue into the WCS than the one current tournament. Blizzard should have open bracket bi-weekly tours with a 5k or so USD cash prize in which the person with the most points get one (or two) of the five spots of that season. Solves the problem...
PS. Whatever happened to competing for the competitions sake and love of the game? In that regard, I salute both Sase and Naniwa! This is actually a great idea. The reason all the Korean dailies/weeklies are gone is because they weren't financially sustainable because there weren't many people willing to watch these mostly Code B/Code A players duke it out, even though it's these same tournaments that foreshadowed the ascent of TaeJa and Life. But with them being funded by Blizzard, this would no longer be an issue. Blizzard have a better tournament format, lesser known Koreans have a better shot at qualifying (at least it's there), Korean scene gets more money and a bit more exposure (since the content should be streamed for whoever's interested). But knowing Blizzard, they'll either not implement it or wait until it's too late... ._. I'd hope everyone would read that post, but not many will. It really is a good idea, people keep going on about how in NA/EU that WCS will give new/unknown players a way to establish themselves - it's the exact opposite in KR's current incarnation of WCS, it'll be the same same/similar players we've been seeing for the last year+, whilst implementing the suggestion above would allow unknowns to potentially shine(ie; Life, Taeja, Jajjkji and more from ESV's weeklys in 2011).
Agreed, Korean Weeklies provided amazing series that deserved more attention and support from both Blizzard and from the community. It was a great way for players like Taeja and Life to fight their way to the top of their skill level and eventually break the threshold that was Code S and beyond.
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Polt is literally Nostradamus.
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*edit moved to the OGN Eng caster topic
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On April 04 2013 17:56 MHT wrote:
Polt is literally Nostradamus.
If WCS doesn't pay off, his education at UT Austin surely will.
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On April 04 2013 11:32 Waxangel wrote:
@IM_Ragnarok: T_T I'm ruined, so I'll just study for the college extrance exams.
He's 16, how old they are when they go to college in Korea?
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Nobody is going to want to work 3x as hard in the Korean tournaments for the same prize money that the NA/EU tournaments are giving. I can't see this working out :-\
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Interesting topic indeed, MC does make good points this time, i wonder how many pros in korea care about this as much as MC does, i thought most of them would be like Naniwa who doesnt give a flying fuck about who the opponent is, but i might be wrong. keep us updated OP ^^
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On April 04 2013 16:38 waylander_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2013 16:00 archonOOid wrote:
Why can't they just move? No that hard really. It seems to me that there will be more money in the making abroad from a Korean perspective with WCS EU/NA spots + all the regular (non WCS) tournaments that are located outside Korea. Move to someplace you don't speak the language, that has shit food, ugly women, and bad ping to Korea? It's not as easy as you make it man. It's unfair-- Koreans are being punished just for being Koreans.
Yes, Southern California and Sweden are famous for bad food and ugly women...
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btw only 2 gsl are wcs gsl does it mean only 2 gsl ? because it should been more from yearly pass doesnt it ?
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Its just one season... sometimes change sucks... get over it.
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On April 04 2013 18:21 CoR wrote:
btw only 2 gsl are wcs gsl does it mean only 2 gsl ? because it should been more from yearly pass doesnt it ?
2 gsl, 2 osl per year.
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Thinking even deeper into this..that Korean house EG just bought and there Korean coaches for it...just turned into a BAD business idea ^_^
There is no point for it now, you could just move them all into the EG Lair in NA and sweep up the MLG/WCS shit there instead. Maybe travel to Europe as well.
Gotta love the way this is fucking the Korean scene up so badly though. Guess blizzard don't really think things through huh?
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I don't get it. Before, there was no WCS. Before, Korean players who failed at Code B couldn't have played in anything besides GSTL/Proleague and foreigner events like MLG/DH/IEM etc. Now, Korean players who fail at Code B cannot play in anything besides GSTL/Proleague and foreigner events like MLG/DH/IEM etc. I fail to see the problem, to be honest.
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On April 04 2013 18:40 Ammanas wrote:
I don't get it. Before, there was no WCS. Before, Korean players who failed at Code B couldn't have played in anything besides GSTL/Proleague and foreigner events like MLG/DH/IEM etc. Now, Korean players who fail at Code B cannot play in anything besides GSTL/Proleague and foreigner events like MLG/DH/IEM etc. I fail to see the problem, to be honest.
There actually was WCS before (last year) and it was another possibility for Koreans that did not yet get to code S to show themselves. Now that is not possible. If you are code B, you need to get to code S first and only then you can dream about participating in WCS, or you can abandon Korean WCS and just participate in the EU/NA one.
Now considering how random SC2 sometimes is, you might be awesome player that is stuck in code B and with much less chance to break through than before. The system introduced right now makes it much less likely for new players to be able to rise up.
All in all the system is pretty shitty compared to what it could be, money that Blizzard is putting in is nice, system they came up with is shit.
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On April 04 2013 17:58 eviltomahawk wrote:If WCS doesn't pay off, his education at UT Austin surely will.
He's the model of career assurance in e-sport really.
If e-sport continue well, he has the level to stay one of the best player in the world. He's of the very very few marketable korean to the western audience and is generally loved. And Blizzard basically gave him his yearly paycheck already.
And if e-sport doesn't work well after a few years ?
" Well, I guess I go back at being of the elite student of my country ! Dammit ! "
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On April 04 2013 21:27 Noocta wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2013 17:58 eviltomahawk wrote:On April 04 2013 17:56 MHT wrote:
Polt is literally Nostradamus. If WCS doesn't pay off, his education at UT Austin surely will. He's the model of career assurance in e-sport really. If e-sport continue well, he has the level to stay one of the best player in the world. He's of the very very few marketable korean to the western audience and is generally loved. And Blizzard basically gave him his yearly paycheck already. And if e-sport doesn't work well after a few years ? " Well, I guess I go back at being of the elite student of my country ! Dammit ! "
You never stop learning period. Look, once you're done with your e-sports gaming and shit. That's when you can go back to school. You lose some of the best years/experience in high school surely, but you can always go back and graduate. When it comes to post secondary you will see people of all walks in life so you will still be able to get that experience.
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I feel like something has to change this year rather than waiting till next years WCS 
I think Korea should hold a separate WCS qualifier a weekend tournament like an MLG/IEM. It seems quite odd to have Korean qualifier a 2 month long tournament when Europe and NA and weekend tournaments and the final is going to be a weekend tournament also. A weekend tournament will give a different winner to a 2 month long tournament.
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